Does anyone think fat jokes have hurt Michael Moore or helped advance conservative ideology?

[geek tragedy]

Do you think they helped Jon Corzine?

If not, what makes you think they're going to hurt Christie or advance liberalism?

They do hurt people who aren't Christie, or Moore, who aren't rich, and famous and powerful. People who have done nothing wrong.

It's utterly lame and juvenile when wingnuts go "lol Michael Moore is fat ha ha."

Don't be them.

[beachbum bob]

1. do you think juvenile behavior has much influence?

I certainly don't....moore knows he is fat and he certainly doesn't care what those with juvenile mentality have to say about it....

[athena]

2. Good post (n/t)

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. I wish that we'd spare some of that outrage for our own guys.

How many times have I read on DU Dennis Kucinich called "a Keebler Elf?"

I wish Chris Christie would stuff a few more cheeseburgers in his mouth so he'd speak less.

Dennis can't stop being short. Chris can stop being fat and he can also stop being an asshole.

[geek tragedy]

5. it's counterproductive. Corzine tried the fat-shaming thing and it only made people

more sympathetic to Christie.

[lumberjack_jeff]

6. I think that "counterproductive" is a good, reasonable, compelling argument.

I think we should avoid ineffective politics. I don't think we should avoid effective politics "because it isn't nice".

[geek tragedy]

7. hence the title of this post.

Point being, conservatives calling Michael Moore fat did nothing to undercut his arguments or advance theirs.

Just made them look childish.

Corzine calling Christie fat didn't win him any votes, probably cost him some votes.

Just made him look childish and desperate.

If I'm Christie, I'd love people to talk about my weight rather than my record.

[kimbutgar]

10. Rand Paul is short like Kucinich next too Christie he looks like a Tom thumb

[Hassin Bin Sober]

4. Using "lame" isn't anything to brag about either.

http://asknicola.blogspot.com/2011/07/lame-is-so-gay-rant.html
Monday, July 11, 2011

Lame is so gay -- a rant

If you don't find the title offensive, you need to read this post. If you find it offensive only because I appear to use gay as an insult, you need to read this post. If you find the title bitterly amusing, welcome to Enlightenment, but please read the post so you can explain it to lesser beings.

Using lame as a derogatory term is as dangerous and ill-considered as using the term gay in the same context. I know. I'm both: I'm a dyke and I have MS. I walk with elbow crutches. I am, literally, lame.

It might seem harmless to you to call a bad movie lame, a poorly-designed website lame, an outdated notion of publishing lame. Perhaps it seems harmless to your children to call their friend's nerdiness gay, their bad songs gay, their ugly clothes gay. But we all know what happens when gay kids get that casual insult hurled at them every day. Their self-esteem plummets. Sometimes they kill themselves.

Words matter. Like icebergs, nine-tenths of their heft lies out of sight. Insults like gay and lame can kill. If you're not gay or lame, you might not see the grinding damage that's occurring below the waterline to those who are.

more at link

[MoonRiver]

8. A lot of famous people have used the term fat to their benefit.

Think of Fats Domino and Minnesota Fats. Not advocating calling people fat, but some fat people embrace the term.

[geek tragedy]

9. their choice, not someone else's nt