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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEncountered a wingnut yesterday in an onlinegame-chat.
The match started and suddenly someone posted "Taxation is Extortion".
I thought "WTF? We are in a game and soon we will fight each other for fun! Why would somebody bring up that topic?"
Someone else chimed in "And interest on loans will bankrupt the world"
I answered: "paying taxes is part of the social contract"
Their answer: "I never signed such a contract"
Me: "You signed it implicitly by living in a society"
Them: "Very funny. How do you sign this? With an implicit magical pen?"
I thought: "WTF? I thought they have civics classes in the US. Have they never heard of Jean-Jacques Rousseau and the concept of the social contract?"
At that point the serious stage of the game began and ended the discussion.
One of the wingnuts died before me and posted "Nazi scum!!!" before logging off. (I guess, it was addressed at me.)
I died shortly after this and as I didn't want to let them have the last word (and I assumed the other wingnut was still logged in), I posted this:
"If you don't want to pay taxes, fine. Please stop using anything that was paid for with taxpayer money."
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)Fu-ck them .
treestar
(82,383 posts)"no such thing as society" from right wingers. That is basically going to create sociopaths.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the idea comes from the writings of sociopaths ... ayn ryn and Milton friedman.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)She was most definitely a sociopath.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I don't spell well until the third cup of coffee kicks in.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)I guess I got up before you did! Here. Donuts on me...
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)they all consider themselves to be the Randian giant that steps on the teeming masses beneath them.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)which is very puzzling.
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)18% of people think they're in the top 1% of income earners. I'm guessing a bunch of them are teabaggers.
eShirl
(18,507 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)willing to go it alone? Let them pay for their own security, garbage pickup, water, energy, roads,airports and fire departments and see if they can keep the masses in line. I am sure many are up to the challenge.
They must have slept through their history classes. Or do they suppose that they are really that much smarter than Marie Antoinette?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)emptied too as none of us sign an actual contract not to break the law.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)If they want to end the social contract, it ends for all of us. Let the hunger games begin.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)The only problem is, most of those wishing for such a thing misunderstand just who it is will be deemed useless by the rest of us.
dembotoz
(16,865 posts)okaawhatever
(9,478 posts)Right wingers are always out spreading the message. They consider it part of their duty. I wish the left were as motivated, but we don't have the inner bible thumper dying to get out.
Technodaoist
(141 posts)Because I saw the exact same thing in chat the other night... "Taxation is extortion"
My response? "LoL - hardly. Pretty desperate if the wingnuts have to stoop to pushing their propaganda in online games..."
Others chimed in along the lines of "GTFO with that" and he stopped before he'd even started.
He was a troll, and the only thing to do with trolls is laugh and point.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Seems like yours and mine were two different occasions.
raccoon
(31,131 posts)gordianot
(15,253 posts)I then tell them to stay off the roads payed for by taxes (recent addition thanks to Elizabeth Warren) I used the line first on my brother in law an insufferable ass who had spread his bullshit for decades. On a personal matter he had physically threatened his sister my wife then went into an unrelated Republican rant. (I also explained to him I do not make threats and gave him a choice) He chose to leave and no longer has had any contact for a decade. Use of that line works well on Tea Party types who complain about taxes.
griloco
(832 posts)"i wouldn't pay them if I were you."
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)mountain grammy
(26,665 posts)The religious right managed to pass the Hyde Amendment which bans Medicaid from paying for abortion services, the only medical procedure prohibited under Medicaid. Henry Hyde, Republican from Illinois got a bunch of other MEN to agree with him on the religious premise that abortion is murder and they don't want their tax dollars to pay for it.
Now, war on the other hand..........................!
dickthegrouch
(3,188 posts)"If you don't want to pay taxes, fine. Please stop using anything that was paid for with taxpayer money."
I'd write
If you don't want to pay taxes, fine. But, your personal integrity requires that you stop using all tax-paid services.
"Please" is a very weak word. Make the message less easy to ignore by making it more personal and less voluntary.