*Rachel found Christie in a lie.

[elleng]

What he knew when, and who on his staff knew what, when.

[malaise]

1. I'm lovin' it

He knew and we know it

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. For those who are not watching, what would that be?

[malaise]

4. They are all in the loop

and he said no one in his office knew

Will post video when it's up - very detailed

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

16. Thanks.

[Cha]

3. Another one?

Cannot wait to see THE show tonight.. thanks ellen~

[malaise]

7. By the way the man in the middle of the two of them

is Samson

[Cha]

20. That's right! His mug was in the

cross hairs on Rachel's last night. Sampson.. another who know nothing.

[Botany]

9. And one day later Kelly was texting Wildstein about their cover story of a "traffic study"

now how could the Governor had known?

Rachel just put this right in Christie's lap and called him a liar.

Just a matter of time but Christie is toast.

[malaise]

11. Super-Committee Chairman John Wisniewski on now

The investigation is going to be larger. There will be many more subpoenas.

[warrior1]

12. That was my impression too

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They're going to crucify Christie and all of his minions and now he's said that the Republican Party of New Jersey May be involved, awesome.

I wonder if someone told him that the Republicans were all behind this. Wow.

[Berlum]

47. Wow - the moral rot runs through the entire Republicon Party in NJ

...and of course far further afield than that. Republicons have "ethics" right out of the cesspool. No wonder Americans are no longer able to respect them.

[pnwmom]

13. OMG -- I never saw the uncut version of this photo before. Do you know

who that woman on the left is? She's Michele Brown, head of the Economic Development Authority. She got that $225K a year job as a result of her cozy friendship with Christie. She used to work for him as a prosecutor, and was a really good friend (he once lent her $46K but forgot to report it in his tax returns) but she didn't have any qualifications in economic development.

Anyway, as head of the Economic Development Authority, she's the one who has to approve all the big state projects -- like the billion dollar development in Fort Lee that Steve Kornaki thinks had something to do with the lane closures.

I knew that she had been with Christie at the shore, and that Kelly was there, too, but I'd never seen a photo of them all together. Thanks!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024326360

[Botany]

21. some paper in NJ matched up the time of that pix to the time that the text was sent

I don't know if this was Kelly or Wildstein's text about the cover story they
were working on .... BTW the Fort Lee Police were never contacted before the shut down.

“The Port Authority is reviewing traffic safety patterns at the George Washington Bridge to ensure proper placement of toll lanes,” the message reads. “The has been in contact with Fort Lee police throughout this transition.” - See more at: http://www.northjersey.com/news/state/CHRISTIE_KELLY_gwb_lane_closures_seaside_emails.html#sthash.kK6rDUeY.dpuf

******

so the governor's press sec., his #2 person, his top aid, 2 people he appointed to the P.A., and some more
people in Christie's office all knew of the bridge shut down and yet Christie didn't know?

Thanx for the heads up on Ms. Brown.

Christie is gonna have to resign .... because the drip drip drip will become a flood pretty soon.

[DURHAM D]

28. Regarding Michele Brown's authority about state projects...

I have noticed that the mayor of Ft Lee plays things very close to the vest. I know he is worried about his signature redevelopment project but he actually seems scared to me, he seems frightened.

So I started thinking and I can't help but wonder if the Governor has some "friends" who are trying to muscle into the big development of the most valuable land in New Jersey and they are using Christie to overrun the Mayor.

btw - friends = Mob

[groundloop]

34. Very good point. Christie is vindictive as hell, and there's usually a reason....

People who play as dirty as him to get to the top are usually in it for a lot more than simply getting to the top.

[pnwmom]

38. A lot of people are wondering which of the Gov's "friends" are trying to muscle in:

Even this real estate blogger on Zillow:

http://www.lauravecsey.com/2/post/2014/01/fort-lee-hudson-lights-development-key-to-bridge-gate.html

Having covered politics in New York and Pennsylvania for the Albany Times Union and the Patriot-News, it certainly seems as if it is well within the bounds of PLAUSIBLE -- given the kinds of dollars and players involved in deals like these -- that this real estate development deal is exactly the kind of issue that would cause political operatives to go wilding on a retribution scheme.

For instance, bond deals are always fodder for jealousy and shenanigans, because of the fees involved in generating the financing. What about the bond deal for Hudson Lights, as secured by Tucker Construction via banking giant Sovereign Santander? It's just one place to scratch around on to see if somehow, there are threads to be pulled. Retribution like closing bridge lanes may sound like stupidity, as Christie tried to characterize it. But it could be far worse and intentional that stupidity.

The key, going forward, will be to outline the background of this real estate development project. Nothing of this magnitude gets done anywhere without a lot of hands in the pot, or a lot of actors feeling like they may or may not have gotten their share of the deal.

SNIP

My interest in Fort Lee is only more piqued now. Steve Kornacki of MSNBC has apparently today linked the New Jersey players surrounding the GW Bridge scandal and the development deal.

But given the mafia connections to some aspects of the land now being developed courtesy of Mayor Mark Sokolich's Hudson Lights project, I'm glad I am currently in Seattle.

[DURHAM D]

49. Thank you for this as I

had not seen any speculation about the players in the redevelopment project. It is always money that drives the sort of dirty tricks coming out of the Governor's office and the current conversation the media (other than Steve) is driving is just drivel and a waste of time.

[pnwmom]

51. I have been digging. Glad someone appreciates! nt

[DURHAM D]

52. I really do appreciate your digging as

I find most of the reporting and conversation too shallow and naive.

I am curious to know if you have seen any speculation as to why Cuomo and everyone else on the other side of the river is remaining silent.

[pnwmom]

53. I'll let you know if I do. I was just assuming

the were enjoying watching Christie self-destruct.

[Ilsa]

33. I think I heard today that she was the one who selected

that awful ad with the Christie family and paid for it with disaster aid money.

[pnwmom]

35. Yes -- and she had no qualifications for making that decision, either --

other than being Christie's best bud.

[Cha]

22. Kelly's caught texting.. and Christie is caught

with that seedy.. I Know Nothing Look on his face. Daring anyone to ask him a question he knows the answer to.



Too bad he isn't looking down at her cell.

[napkinz]

57. knows nothing! :)

[Cha]

59. Yes, that bridge one is even better!

[VA_Jill]

46. Just as an aside

is there a pic anywhere of Bridget looking anything but vicious, sulky, or grim?

[sheshe2]

19. Excellent graphic Cha!

[Cha]

23. "Unseen flunky"..

I saw it on TOD

I posted it on another thread but forgot to add the line this time. It is an Awesome update on the pic the WSJ gifted us with today, she!

[sheshe2]

26. Just got home so thanks for that update...

Time to send bully boy packing, Cha!

[riversedge]

5. Only 'a' lie??

[libdem4life]

6. Which one? Seems they are multiplying kind of like Flopsie's Bunnies.

[ZX86]

8. Pretty much like shootin' fish in a barrel now days

Rachel is a national treasure. Many more like her are needed.

[babylonsister]

10. At least 3? She's rocking! nt

[NJCher]

17. it was a beautiful thing

She's so clear in how she lays things out.

Allegation: Evidence.

Allegation: Evidence.

Allegation: Evidence.

Any questions, STBF Gov. Christie?

(soon to be former)




Cher

[Cha]

27. I know.. Rachel makes sure we understand things.. like a teacher.

I really appreciate that!

According to Christie.. "the left wing blogs" are bad mouthing him.

Christie's office blames "left-wing blogs" for "wild-eyed conspiracy theory"

link

I bet they don't want to mention Rachel or People would tune in and get Taught! they got to be watching her though.. and groaning!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

14. Apparently what he knows requires security.

[Pryderi]

15. How did Christie and his staff get to lower Manhattan during #Bridgegate?

Did he take a helicopter?
http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2014/01/14/christie-official-who-arranged-bridge-closures-together-during-fiasco/

[thesquanderer]

24. You would not typically take the GW bridge to get to lower Manhattan

That bridge is way uptown. You'd typically take the Holland Tunnel. (Even the Lincoln Tunnel would be much closer than the GWB.)

[Pryderi]

25. Thx! I don't know the geography n/t

[thesquanderer]

30. I wonder if he closed the tunnel the same day he backed up the bridge!

This does bring up an interesting point... The GW bridge was going nowhere, and as recently posted here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024203909

he appears to routinely close a tunnel when he needs to make his way through, so it's possible that, for a while, he could have closed a tunnel as well on his way to downtown! That would have knocked out 2 of the 3 direct hudson crossing from NJ to Manhattan.

[sheshe2]

18. Go Rachel! Take him down.

Thanks ellen! Good news.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. Thank you Rachel.

The bigger they are the harder the fall.

[George II]

31. Is there a reason for you keeping it a secret from us???????????

[elleng]

32. 'What he knew when, and who on his staff knew what, when.'

[Voice for Peace]

39. beautifully laying out how his

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whole staff and their appendages were all in on it.

how he is lying, and it is easily provable.

I am watching the clip of him speaking (from Rachel's
show, link below if you haven't seen it).

In his opening, it is most noticeable, and obvious,
that he has learned either from the same coach
as GWBush, or from watching Bush himself.
His inflections and mannerisms are precisely
w's. It is the homey liar persona. So sincere and
American.

It is uncanny. He is a younger fatter greasier
version of little george. as if a chip had been.. no,
no, that's too much..

[Voice for Peace]

36. link to the whole show, in case it hasn't been posted

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

she is on FIRE.. she is having WAY too much fun

[elleng]

37. Thanks, and yes, she is,

but having 'fun,' seriously.

[Cha]

44. Watching now.. thanks VFP. Rachel has given us

names, pics, and emails of those on CChistie's staff who knew exactly what was going on with the Shutdown while it was happening.

[deutsey]

48. That was great

Thanks for posting it.

Her investigation and analysis really puts most other news shows to shame.

[Dustlawyer]

40. We have 3 different, plausible theories on why they did it:

1. Get back at the Mayor of Fort Lee;
2. The billion dollar real estate development; and
3. The retribution against the Democratic leader who was the Representative of the district where Fort Lee is situated for not allowing him to replace the black Democrat NJ Supreme Court Justice he declined to renew (1st time a governor had refused to renew one) with a Republican.
Maybe all 3 played a part and, in their eyes, made it worth the risk, if they were even smart enough to realize it was a risk. Me, I think they were too caught up in their power to believe this could hurt them in any way. On Rachel's show tonight she showed a text where one of them states that they had been called by the NY Time on their cell phone. The other's (cannot remember the players names) response seemed to be that they were in shock. Too funny!

[flamingdem]

42. Think you're right - they couldn't imagine being

exposed. In the end they're all a bit dense as well as caught up in their power.

[Cha]

45. I believe the response was..

"Jesus".. and was that from Bill Baroni? So many players.

[flamingdem]

41. Can't wait for tomorrow

and more episodes of BridgeGate. Thanks Guv!

[Cha]

43. Yeah, ellen! CChristie said "Nobody on my staff had any knowledge of

the bridge being shutdown".

Rachel gives us names, pics, and emails of those on his staff who knew during the shutdown. He's a freaking Liar. And, those at the State of the State who were standing and applauding at his lies make me sick.

[ProSense]

50. Rachel Maddow Destroys Any Credibility Chris Christie Might Think He Still Has

Rachel Maddow Destroys Any Credibility Chris Christie Might Think He Still Has
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/15/1269754/-Rachel-Maddow-Destroys-Any-Credibility-Chris-Christie-Might-Think-He-Still-Has

[proverbialwisdom]

54. Plural. Lawrence O'Donnell added to the list. (nt)

[napkinz]

55. Why conservatives don't like Rachel Maddow ...

https://www.facebook.com/beingliberal.org

[elleng]

56. YUP!

[Xyzse]

58. Good.

It is frustrating that important things like these get placed off the background.
Unless it is a damn sex scandal, it just barely creates a blip.

Sadly, outside of DU, I don't hear much about this.