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Is anyone else watching "1964" doc on PBS? (Original Post) Boomerproud Jan 2014 OP
Currently watching Maddow on MSNBC - great show tonight. n/t Tx4obama Jan 2014 #1
I had forgotten how nutty Barry Goldwater was. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #2
He sure would. Boomerproud Jan 2014 #8
"Goldwater in '64, Hot water in '65, Bread and water in '66" TheCowsCameHome Jan 2014 #10
"In your heart you know he's right. Far right." Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #11
In your heart you know he's right..... Grammy23 Jan 2014 #16
Back then though most people considered him a fringe looney in Cleita Jan 2014 #9
I'm betting today's GOP would have primary'd him for being too moderate... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #23
No, they're worse FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #31
omg I missed it :( Have to see when it comes back on SummerSnow Jan 2014 #3
Brought back a lot of memories. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2014 #4
Watched it XRubicon Jan 2014 #5
The Birchers just morphed into the Tea Partiers. nt octoberlib Jan 2014 #6
I especially like "Communism, Hyptonism, and the Beatles" MisterP Jan 2014 #19
Well isn't this interesting! octoberlib Jan 2014 #22
Billy James Hargis was famous for deflowering 200 teen congregants regardless of gender MisterP Jan 2014 #30
Here's the cover: caraher Jan 2014 #25
American Experience series. Just watched it. GREAT! R&K nt longship Jan 2014 #7
watching it now--the cons have gotten even nuttier, and we seem to be going backward. niyad Jan 2014 #12
I watched it. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #13
I'll have watch on the internet. Thanks for the heads up. Your post reminded me of the great okaawhatever Jan 2014 #14
Thanx for reminding. Just saw it. Highly recommended. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #15
I did MrYikes Jan 2014 #17
Just finished.. 2banon Jan 2014 #18
OMGosh, I was 14 also, but I lived in Southern Wisconsin, Madison, WI actually........ a kennedy Jan 2014 #24
1950 2banon Jan 2014 #27
you can watch it .free online at PBS website SoCalDem Jan 2014 #32
I was only eight in 1964. warrior1 Jan 2014 #20
Saw part of it, yeah. alp227 Jan 2014 #21
The year of my birth... PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #26
Happy Birthday on Sunday! Boomerproud Jan 2014 #33
The one thing the conservatives have changed is parties, the racist South was solid Dem bigbrother05 Jan 2014 #28
Remember Johnson's famous reply when someone congratulated him on signing the Voting Rights Act? Boomerproud Jan 2014 #34
Saw it. geardaddy Jan 2014 #29

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
8. He sure would.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jan 2014

Before he passed he had somewhat of a redemption (because of his acceptance of his gay grandson I guess) but OMG. No one on the "Right" said a word about the murder of those 3 civil rights activists-and I believe silence meant acceptance in that case.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
10. "Goldwater in '64, Hot water in '65, Bread and water in '66"
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jan 2014

How well I remember that slogan............

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
16. In your heart you know he's right.....
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jan 2014

But in your guts you know he's nuts.

I heard my Dad say this many times. And he'd laugh every time. I can't imagine what he'd think about the politicians and groups like the Tea Party. He died in 1967 at age 51. I have wished many times he was still around so I could get his perspective on things.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
9. Back then though most people considered him a fringe looney in
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jan 2014

both parties. Today he would head of one of the houses of Congress obstructing everything.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
31. No, they're worse
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jan 2014
"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."


http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Barry_Goldwater

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
4. Brought back a lot of memories.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:01 PM
Jan 2014

Some good, some not so good.

And yes, the conservatives are as terrible as ever.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
22. Well isn't this interesting!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jan 2014

Thanks for posting. I just finished reading Wrapped in the Flag by Clair Connor. Connor's father was a founding member of the John Birch society. I recognized a lot names in the Philips collection from reading the book.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
25. Here's the cover:
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jan 2014

From CONELRAD:

The Communists, through their scientists, educators and entertainers, have contrived an elaborate, calculating and scientific technique directed at rendering a generation of American youth useless through nerve-jamming, mental deterioration and retardation. The plan involves conditioned reflexes, hypnotism and certain kinds of music. The results, destined to destroy our nation, are precise and exacting. Little wonder the Kremlin maintains it will not raise the Red flag over America—the Americans will raise it themselves. If the following scientific program destined to make our children mentally sick is not exposed, mentally degenerated Americans will indeed raise the Communist flag over their own nation!

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
14. I'll have watch on the internet. Thanks for the heads up. Your post reminded me of the great
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jan 2014

Bruce Hornsby song about the CRA and discrimination, Way It IS

Standin' in line marking time
Waiting for the welfare dime
'Cause they can't buy a job
The man in the silk suit hurries by
As he catches the poor old lady's eyes
Just for fun he says, 'Get a job'

That's just the way it is
Some things'll never change
That's just the way it is
Ha, but don't you believe them

Said, 'Hey little boy you can't go
Where the others go
Cause you don't look like they do'
Said, 'Hey, old man how can you stand
To think that way
Did you really think about it
Before you made the rules?'
He said, 'Son

That's just the way it is
Some things'll never change
That's just the way it is'
Ha, but don't you believe them

Ooo, yeah (instrumental)

Well, they passed a law in '64
To give those who ain't got, a little more
But it only goes so far
'Cause the law don't change another's mind
When all it sees at the hiring time
Is the line on the color bar
But who knows

That's just the way it is
Some things'll never change (right)
That's just the way it is
That's just they way it is, it is, when you're waiting.

I just realized it was recorded during the Reagan years. Now we know why he was thinking of the subject twenty years later, huh?

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
15. Thanx for reminding. Just saw it. Highly recommended.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:48 PM
Jan 2014

Not mentioned: SDS endorsed LBJ. Then came 'Nam.

40,000 demonstrated at the GOPer Convention in '64. Who would dream of 1/4 that # now? I recorded on a D-cell reel-to-reel the speech of Nelson Rockefeller who was roundly booed. My Dad was asked to chair the Rockefeller camp. in Fla, but declined as he voted LBJ.

SUCH a time. Our family visited Daytona Beach, Sarasota Beach, and Vero; went to the Daytona 500, Dad got me a subscription to Progressive and Fact mags, watched a raft of good ol' boys fall in love with Diana Ross. And LSD was legal for another year.

MrYikes

(720 posts)
17. I did
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:24 AM
Jan 2014

they did not show the 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 commercial that stopped Goldwater. I thought the rest was well done.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
18. Just finished..
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 01:59 AM
Jan 2014

I was 14 years old in 1964 grew up in the South. That was my "coming of age", and no, the Racists republicans haven't changed one iota.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
24. OMGosh, I was 14 also, but I lived in Southern Wisconsin, Madison, WI actually........
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jan 2014
I'm looking for it to be replayed so I can watch it then.
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
27. 1950
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jan 2014

For an hour format (I think it was only an hour) it was a pretty decent synopsis of our history in 1964. It began on the premise that the year really began on November 22, 1963. I think you can see it on line. (?)

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
20. I was only eight in 1964.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:30 AM
Jan 2014

But I remember a lot of that. We lived in Texas in 1964 when the Beatles came to America. That was awesome special.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
26. The year of my birth...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jan 2014

I will be 50 this coming Sunday!

I do want to watch this, no more TV but I'm sure I could find it online eventually.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
28. The one thing the conservatives have changed is parties, the racist South was solid Dem
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jan 2014

because the Lincoln the Republican had ended slavery. LBJ's passage of the Civil Rights Act and voting rights along with Nixon's "Southern Strategy" were prominent in the shaping of our current political parties.

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
34. Remember Johnson's famous reply when someone congratulated him on signing the Voting Rights Act?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jan 2014

"Congratulations, Mr. President, you did the right thing."

"Yes, and we've just lost the South for a generation."

He knew human nature better than most.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
29. Saw it.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jan 2014

It was a good show. You're so right about conservatives. Chilling was Goldwater's comment (paraphrase) "Extremism in protecting liberty isn't a vice."

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