Adam Lanza calls in radio station year before Sandy Hook shooting & gives bizarre interview- Audio

[hlthe2b]

TRIGGER WARNING....! (I know I am still realing from all discussion of Newtown massacre and its shooter)
Many may not want to hear his voice (and initially that was my thought), but I have to tell you, it is compelling to hear how articulate he is and to get a glimpse of how his mind worked. In this, he is drawing a comparison of school shooters and the Connecticut chimp, Travis--raised in captivity as a "child" who horrifically attacked and left a Connecticut woman with no face or arms. Just that he drew that comparison probably lends a lot of material for clinical psychologists, but for most, just hearing him speak for the first time is bizarrely compelling for those of us still trying desperately to find a reason for the Newtown horror. Some might be surprised at his obvious intelligence and verbal skills.. I think it lends credence to the reporting that he did have Aspergers--a very high functioning form of autism

One year before he killed 27 people, including 20 children at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., Adam Lanza placed an ominous phone call to an Oregon radio station.

In the call, which took place Dec. 11, 2011, Lanza tells “Anarchy Radio” host John Zerzan that a comparison can be made between Travis the chimp, a domesticated primate who tore a woman's face off in 2009, and a "teenage mall shooter."

Listen to the audio here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/16/adam-lanza-phone-call-radio_n_4609510.html

Full source for the story (pretty sensationalized as one might expect on NYDAILYNEWS--warning)
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/exclusive-lanza-twisted-call-radio-station-article-1.1580984#ixzz2qa2RXwyQ

[leftyohiolib]

1. i think the faster we forget him the better.

[lapislzi]

8. Disagree. Unfortunately, we have to figure this out as best we can.

The least glimmer of insight could help prevent the next one. And there will be a next one.

This is squeamish work, and not for everyone, but you have to stare down that abyss and let it stare back at you.

[OnyxCollie]

10. I agree.

[leftyohiolib]

12. disagree we dont, let the doctors and psychologists concern themselves with this pycho

we dont have the training to deal with this murderer so the best thing we can do is not give him the notoriety he wants and forget this fuck

[hlthe2b]

14. It is all of us, who determine public policy via the democratic process...

which includes the pressure exerted upon elected officials and the funding of mental health.

We do a disservice to that process, if we do so in ignorance.

The extremist gun industry knows that to be the case which is why NRA and its allies have fought so long and so hard to prevent real scientific inquiry into gun violence or the release of those study findings to the public.

I should hope most do not wish us to remain similarly ignorant with respect to mental health issues and the determinants of mass killings. And, yes, that is quite different from glorifying mass murderers with public attention.

[lapislzi]

15. He's dead. What does he know from notoriety?

Just change the channel/don't buy the paper/turn off the computer if you find it distasteful. Some lay people among us want to get a better understanding.

I'm not judging you. I'd appreciate the the same courtesy.

[leftyohiolib]

16. is that what we did to chick-fil-a , just dont shop there or any of the other things we took action

against. youre going to try to understand something you cant understand? I remember a 16year old girl (Brenda spencer) who went on a shooting spree killed 2 adults and nine children the reason she gave was "I don't like Mondays". you cant understand crazy. he may not know about notoriety but the next one will being saying they'll talk about me forever

im not judging you and you can do what you want but just cause you can do a thing doesn't you should
take care

[OnyxCollie]

2. Accusations of hero-worshipping a mass murderer to commence in 3... 2... 1...

[hlthe2b]

3. Really? Then they would be waay off base.

I was very careful not to embed photos, to make the post non-sensational and to warn of the less than professional content contained at the originating source, as opposed to (in this rare case), the Huffington Post.

And, if that is not enough, I would refer them to my sigline. We learn nothing to prevent such incidents if we don't learn from the ones that have occurred.

[OnyxCollie]

5. No noose goes unused.

It's like Operation Rescue changed their focus from abortion to gun control.

[lapislzi]

7. What? Do you have an agenda?

Your post doesn't make sense in context.

[OnyxCollie]

9. According to certain DUers,

I'm a bootlicker for gun thugs, and a hero-worshipper of a murderer.

That's my (alleged) agenda.

Decide for yourself:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=696781

[lapislzi]

11. Noted...we may have to agree to disagree (sort of)

You may be mischaracterized by other DUers. I won't speak to that.

I am of the belief that until we change some of the vocabulary and metatext surrounding the issue of firearm ownership, we are not going to be able to reach consensus.

I understand that my own position on firearms (complete repeal of the second amendment) is extreme and unlikely to gain any traction in the short term. I'm not a fool, and I usually keep that opinion to myself. My interest is also proprietary in the extreme: one of the Sandy Hook parents is a close friend.

But, I think it's an unfair characterization of of me and others like me to call us "gun control advocates." It just doesn't advance the discussion at all. If you want to end the discussion, call me a "gun control advocate," and I'll call all gun owners "gun nuts" and be done with it. And we've learned nothing, and people will keep on getting killed.

I, and others close to the issue, really want to find common ground with gun owners and non-owners. Can't we agree that gun responsibility should be the top priority? Can't we agree that we don't need or want any more dead kids, that we have far too many already? Am I crazy, or is that something everyone can agree on?

So I'm thinking, maybe you and I are on the same page after all.

[OnyxCollie]

17. It was lazy of me

to use a term like "gun control advocate." I was so taken back by the extreme response I received, that I quickly responded with shorthand generalization.

All I wanted to do was understand what led to the altercation, to know the nuances, so that maybe it can be avoided in the future.

But like the abortion "debate," where trying to mention ectopic pregnancies, rape, or even a woman's right to privacy, is met with shouts of "murderer," "baby-killer," and "save the babies," trying to talk about what led to a shooting (and recently, the argument that preceded it) is met with accusations of hero-worshipping a murderer, being a bootlicker for gun thugs, and insults like "prick" and "fucking disgusting."

Fuck that.

I agree with you that it is important to understand Adam Lanza. I felt the same way about the recent shooting, although I was more interested in the texting angle.

The shooter's behavior can likely be summed up thusly:

Former cop (authoritarian figure) goes to see Lone Survivor (military, authoritarian.) He pays his money and expects to be able to enjoy the movie. Instead, he's bothered by a guy who's texting in the movie theater, despite signs prohibiting that behavior (breakdown of authority). He tells the guy to stop, maybe even yelling at him to do so. (Using small group social pressure as an incentive to stop a prohibited behavior.) That fails, so he leaves the theater. (If he was going to get an usher, and whether or not he found one, I don't know.) He comes back in and someone throws popcorn at him. (Who did it? I don't know.) So, here we have a former cop (authoritarian figure) facing a breakdown in authority, and on top of it, he's being publicly humiliated.

He will not be the Lone Survivor. He is losing.

What does he do? He overreacts with deadly force.

He fucked up, big time.

Does that sound like hero-worship?

The reason why I'm interested in texting is because I learned of a 20-year old who smashed up his truck because he was drunk, high, and texting at the same time. (He would text while driving even if he wasn't drunk and high.)

Why? Why is texting so important that people have to do it everywhere, at any time? Why was it so important for that guy to text his 3-year old in a movie theater? (Can a 3-year old even read?) Why ignore the signs in the movie theater to shut off phones? Why didn't he shut it off when he was asked, even if he wasn't asked nicely? Why didn't he say, "Oh, sorry about that. I'll turn it off." Why did he feel it was worth it to argue with a moviegoer over texting? That the person he was talking to was quick to temper and carrying heat likely never entered his calculus. He probably thought, Goddamn it. I'm texting my DAUGHTER. Fuck this guy. What's he gonna do? Pull out a gun and shoot me?

He fucked up, big time.

My dogs are putting pressure on me to get them their dinners, so I'll have to end here, but I thank you for the discussion.

[bettyellen]

4. He posted that he castrated himself at 15? Wtf?

[Lurks Often]

6. I have not seen or heard anything that confirms he actually castrated himself n/t

[Jefferson23]

13. The Connecticut law firm that represents the Newtown School district has been fighting the

release of his records from the get go. I hope they get them asap..it is bullshit for them
to hide behind privacy issues..the kid is dead. There was a homicide of 20 children and
six adults..release them already.

Berchem, Moses & Devlin, P.C. they represent a lot of schools here.

[rollin74]

18. that audio is creepy but interesting