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Cleita

(75,480 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:31 PM Jan 2014

Chris Christie is only a minor villain in this.

The real villain is the corrupt system that enabled a person like Chris Christie to get where he got. It seems it's a system where a successful politician and governor gets there by knowing whom to bribe, whom to blackmail and whose dick to suck that represent the real powers in that state and part of the country, the powers who are hidden being smoke screens and closed door. It seems it's the only way to get stuff done in that kind of governmental clusterfuck and apparently Christie did get some things done that his predecessor couldn't.

I'm afraid Bridgegate is only a microcosm of how our whole country is being run today and why 1% own most of the wealth.

Disgusting!

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arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
1. He is not minor player in this. He has been
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:37 PM
Jan 2014

laying down the ground work since he got in office in his first term. They are all mutually greasing each others palms. They do things at his behest and profit in the meantime. He is a known micro manager so please spare me the notion that he is a minor player.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. But that's my point. The environment was there for him, who seems to have no
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:43 PM
Jan 2014

moral compass or conscience, to grease those palms. The palms were already in place. If it weren't Christie, it would be somebody else. Nature hates a vacuum and so apparently does corruption.

arthritisR_US

(7,288 posts)
13. But you see, I don't see him as a minor player.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

Irrespective of the environment previously being layed down he had a choice of shutting it all down. He was a prosecutor of graft before so he knew exactly how things worked and how they could be stopped. Instead, he fortified the ground work.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. Christie is a perfect example of that old adage that we all have a purpose
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jan 2014

Even if that purpose is just as a bad example.

Or a very good example of a system corrupted by avarice, cupidity and hubris.

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
3. One part of the problem is that public authorities like the Port Authority are less accountable
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:39 PM
Jan 2014

to the citizenry than ordinary government agencies. When I have time I'm going to post about this.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
7. "...our whole country..."
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jan 2014

Sadly it's very large sections of our planet.
That said at least there are 'investigations' in the US.

TheBlackAdder

(28,189 posts)
11. The Moral Agent aspect to the question: "Why did God make bad in this world, and not just good?"
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:08 PM
Jan 2014

The reason why is...

Without the ability to perform bad acts, a person cannot have virtue.


===


If everything were good, or people were forced to only performing good deeds, then virtue cannot be proven.


Virtue ONLY exists when a person is faced with making good / bad choices and uses their morals to choose good, regardless of the costs.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
12. The Christie story as a movie will touch on these issues
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

It gets into core issues that get swept under the rug and which ultimately led to our demise, or coming demise, as a race. (climate change etc.)

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
14. I agree. When we are forced to make moral choices, it's not
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jan 2014

easy and may even cost us financially or other kinds of losses.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
15. Thoughts
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jan 2014

What I don't get, is that there is no possible positive outcome if he did this. The only outcome, even if he got away with it, is to prove to the mayor that he's an asshole.

If all he wanted to do is punish the mayor, or even the state senator, there are a million other ways he could have done it. And he could easily have done it in such a way that he would never, ever be caught.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
17. He was trying to become President and became careless because
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jan 2014

he lost sight of what he was doing. He thought he would be leaving Jersey for the White House and he needed those donors that he thought the mayor was keeping from doing their development. He doesn't play The Game of Thrones very well because he lost sight of the fall out.

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