Di-Fi: We need NSA blanket surveillance because " We still occupy the role of the Great Satan"

[vt_native]

Maybe we shouldn't act in a way that makes inhabitants of other nations think we are the "Great Satan" ?

You know, stop the invasions, wars, and drone killings of innocents.

I guess that never occurred to the Senator.

Did you notice the meme that Snowden had to be a spy and could not have had legitimate concerns about NSA data collection?

[MineralMan]

1. Link?

[IDemo]

2. NBC (Meet the Press)

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/19/22358363-congressional-intelligence-chairmen-applaud-obama-for-backing-surveillance?lite

Feinstein said the critics of the NSA’s surveillance programs underestimate how many people around the world see the United States as their enemy. “A lot of the privacy people perhaps don't understand that we still occupy the role of the Great Satan. New bombs are being devised. New terrorists are emerging, new groups, actually, a new level of viciousness,” the California Democrat said. “We need to be prepared. I think we need to do it in a way that respects people's privacy rights.”

[MineralMan]

3. Thanks.

[woo me with science]

4. Dianne Feinstein, (D-Fascist)

I never thought I would see my country come to this.

[delrem]

6. I think we're seeing the result of a quantum leap, or quantum jump:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_electron_transition

A metaphor maybe, but it explains how we (I mean the mass 'leftist' or 'progressive' movement) could have been continuously aware of Reagan "trickle down" and Iran-Contra and the unrelenting on-and-on hustle through both R. and D. admins (or their equivalents across the "western" world) for decades, yet be suddenly aware/surprised/discombobulated that we are THERE now. That the right-wing revolution has not only succeeded, but has consolidated itself in the "western free world" (TM).

This isn't to say that a highly constricted (to be non-essential to economic or foreign policy) leftist progressive push hasn't been successful and doesn't need continuing with ever more active support so as to be even more successful. It isn't to say that I don't understand why a majority of D's consider this success to be sufficient reason to continue giving absolute support for the road the D's are on. I understand why contributors like ProSense so vociferously support the D admin, Obama and *all of it*, in the current circumstances where nothing else is seriously on offer.

So how can I describe how I see the situation, without metaphors?

I think the cross the board economic/military victory of the right-wing revolution depends largely on a successful abstraction of "social issues", AKA "progressive vs T-Party" issues, so both can be and are treated as epiphenomena by *all* the politicians, pundits, economic movers and economic dependents, who are given public air time in a heavily censored MSM, but where both D and R elites share the identical economic/military basis.

[neverforget]

9. The politicians values are easily bought as there is

lots of money to be made from the defense and intelligence contractors

[delrem]

5. Di-Fi's argument makes no sense whatsoever. It's pure smoke.

Why do US citizens keep on voting irrational people into office?

[1000words]

7. Sigh ...

[PowerToThePeople]

8. All you said, plus turn over prior administration to the Hague. n/t

[fujiyama]

10. What a wretched horrible woman

but what do you expect from a war profiteer?