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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:42 PM Jan 2014

Ann Coulter Claims Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz Are Afraid to Debate ‘Smart’ Conservatives



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Ann Coulter Claims Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz Are Afraid to Debate ‘Smart’ Conservatives
By: Jason Easley
Wednesday, January, 22nd, 2014, 7:01 pm


Ann Coulter has completely departed from reality with her claim that Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz are not Republican slayers, but cowards who are afraid to debate smart conservatives.

Video @ link~


Coulter showed up on Fox and Friends to explain away the story surrounding her comment that that mothership of morning lies won’t have conservatives on who can put two sentences together. She did this by claiming that Maddow and Schultz are afraid to debate conservatives.

She said, “I was talking about I had sent out a tweet, obviously I was talking 100% about MSNBC, it drives me crazy that they never have a half articulate conservative on, and which is you know, ok, you’re living in your little insular world and you end up saying crazy things, but then particularly Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz are always acting like these big Republican slayers, and Republican will argue with me. So I was up at 3 AM last week, and I see this thing from Ed Schultz saying Republicans are afraid to debate me, so I tweeted back put me on your show you lying there’s nothing wrong with the word I used, I know you’re going to bleep me, so I won’t say it, it’s a synonym for pansy.”

Coulter went on to claim that Fox has intelligent liberals while MSNBC gets conservative stooges like Todd Harris and Megan McCain to appear on their shows. Of course, Coulter is completely full of it. Rand Paul used to appear on Rachel Maddow until he made a complete fool of himself by opposing the Civil Rights Act on her show, and after Maddow pushed him on it, he has never appeared on her show again.

Maddow tries desperately to book Republicans on her show, but they won’t go on her show. Ed Schultz has the same problem. Republicans won’t go on his show. The reason isn’t because they are afraid that they will lose an argument. Republicans refuse go on these shows because they fear the questions that they will be asked. Republicans don’t want to discuss why they won’t extend unemployment benefits, oppose raising the minimum wage, cut food stamps, and keep blocking jobs bills.

With the rise of Fox News, most Republicans refuse to leave the perpetually softballing Fox universe. Even the GOP friendly Sunday morning shows have become too much for most Republicans to handle. Coulter reversed reality to fit her own motives. Maddow and Schultz aren’t afraid of Republicans, but Republicans are afraid of what would happen to them if they left the Fox News bubble.

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Ann Coulter Claims Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz Are Afraid to Debate ‘Smart’ Conservatives (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2014 OP
Ha! JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #1
Ann-thrax Mouth confuses the definitions of smart and smart-ass. She personifies the latter. n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #37
"Ann-thrax Mouth" sheshe2 Jan 2014 #54
Smart conservatives don't... one_voice Jan 2014 #2
Rachel should say "I want to call dibs if anybody ever finds one" nt Snotcicles Jan 2014 #84
Does Coulter know of any smart conservatives? Gothmog Jan 2014 #3
"Smart conservatives" was the punch line. Coulter is the joke. Solly Mack Jan 2014 #4
'smart conservative'..... see extreme oxymoran spanone Jan 2014 #5
Who you calling an ox moron? MineralMan Jan 2014 #9
why, i oughtta.....bwahahahahahahaaaa spanone Jan 2014 #11
I ain't no ox moron! MineralMan Jan 2014 #20
+1,000 malaise Jan 2014 #78
That's only because encountering one would leave them speechless. rug Jan 2014 #6
"Smart Conservative" is a contradiction of terms. MineralMan Jan 2014 #7
Ann Coulter is a robot shenmue Jan 2014 #8
I WILL KICK ROBOPHOBIC SHENMUE ASS Skittles Jan 2014 #58
ha ha, Colbert and Stewart must love it when the right writes their jokes for them. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #10
Coulter is still looking for Vietnam vets from the Canadian Army DefenseLawyer Jan 2014 #12
She's got Brock envy JHB Jan 2014 #21
Never trust a liberal PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #22
I saw the audience. Reminds me of Michael Moore's book.... muntrv Jan 2014 #39
can we just ignore her like Rachael is doing hollysmom Jan 2014 #13
I swear she must be a coke fiend...she acts like she is coked up every time I have unfortunately Drew Richards Jan 2014 #14
Ann Coulter needs to name the smart conserative and then they can be set up on the shows Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #15
That's not why they don't have you on, Ann... JHB Jan 2014 #16
This ^^^^ Marie Marie Jan 2014 #57
Rachel is getting excellent reviews on her most instructive show, Coulter can't stand it..n/t monmouth3 Jan 2014 #17
Who or whom is she flabbering her gums about. Historic NY Jan 2014 #18
Dimwit Coulter doesn't get it. ZX86 Jan 2014 #19
"You're living in your little insular world" GP6971 Jan 2014 #23
Steve Doocy is brilliant, the modern version of Ayn Rand. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #24
They also don't debate unicorns or elves (and for the same reason). 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #25
Just more projection. Fox is afraid to invite a half-articulate liberal advocate. Scuba Jan 2014 #26
Fear isn't the obstacle in debating conservatives. Finding a smart one is the real problem. notadmblnd Jan 2014 #27
Maybe she meant "Smart Ass" conservatives. Kablooie Jan 2014 #28
But, that's moot 'cause there Cha Jan 2014 #29
Smart conservatives - Now that's an extinct creature. liberal N proud Jan 2014 #30
Pretty sure that line died with Eisenhower. Barack_America Jan 2014 #70
Ann Coulter SamKnause Jan 2014 #31
Ann made a funny and she doesn't know it. Squinch Jan 2014 #32
Oh, I can't stand her.... blue14u Jan 2014 #33
There's no reason to pay any attention to anything Coulter says struggle4progress Jan 2014 #34
Hey Annie! That's because there are no smart conservatives to debate. muntrv Jan 2014 #35
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #36
Question? sheshe2 Jan 2014 #38
That phrase is an oxymoron. Octafish Jan 2014 #40
Yeah, I think it's the other way around. ananda Jan 2014 #41
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #42
Rachel and Ed can't debate something that doesn't exist. n/t Triana Jan 2014 #43
Fox has intelligent liberals- that most liberals don't consider liberal Johonny Jan 2014 #44
When she first went on the air, Rachel used to get regular Republican guests NewJeffCT Jan 2014 #45
BRING IT ON!!!! Ann mithnanthy Jan 2014 #46
Ask her to name one. We will go from there. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #47
Smart conservatives? ReRe Jan 2014 #48
Does she have some suggestions??? Surely not herself. TNNurse Jan 2014 #49
"Debate?" ChazInAz Jan 2014 #50
+ about a million! They consider talking loudly over their opponents to be "debating", where the one Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #65
TRANSLATION: "Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz Are Smart Enough rocktivity Jan 2014 #51
Wouldn't we have to find one first in order to even have the debate LynneSin Jan 2014 #52
annie should be apologizing to a tree somewhere for the air it provides her JanT Jan 2014 #53
I hope she isn't referring to herself! tavernier Jan 2014 #55
LOLOL: BRING 'EM ON!!! Skittles Jan 2014 #56
I'm sure there are smart conservatives, but you never see them on TV, or at least they hide it El_Johns Jan 2014 #59
There's a reason Ed and Rachel don't have "half-articulate conservatives" on to debate. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #60
I am shaking my head in disgust at these wimpy and scared folks Mira Jan 2014 #61
Yep. And if Coulter could get any intelligent Rs to agree to come on the show, Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #64
Obviously, she's talking about herself.... AlbertCat Jan 2014 #62
That's the line on Coulter jimlup Jan 2014 #63
Rachel invite Colutergist on your show via twitter davidpdx Jan 2014 #66
A smart conservative Turbineguy Jan 2014 #67
They also have not agreed to debate unicorns quaker bill Jan 2014 #68
Don't they have to find one first? 6000eliot Jan 2014 #69
"smart conservatives?" That's an oxymoron. demosincebirth Jan 2014 #71
Surely Coulter deserves... 3catwoman3 Jan 2014 #72
NO SUCH THING MFM008 Jan 2014 #73
Zombie Bill Buckley! OMFG! Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #74
Could it be the reason why Republicans don't go on these shows... AngryOldDem Jan 2014 #75
Besides disparaging barrages, what would that single celled amoeba have to say ? orpupilofnature57 Jan 2014 #76
Rachel and Ed both comment at the end of segments that Ilsa Jan 2014 #77
Says it all... sendero Jan 2014 #79
Maddow and Schults would LOVE to debate a smart conservative. bvar22 Jan 2014 #80
Like anyone should listen to that POS. Rex Jan 2014 #81
Pretty funny when you consider that Rachel reguarly had 'crazy uncle' Pat Buchanan early on Mike Daniels Jan 2014 #82
"smart conservative"? Hepburn Jan 2014 #83

JustAnotherGen

(31,820 posts)
1. Ha!
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:45 PM
Jan 2014

I'd love for Coulter to go on Maddows show - Rachel works very hard and deserves to have a segment where she can laugh in an idiots face on air.

Gothmog

(145,195 posts)
3. Does Coulter know of any smart conservatives?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jan 2014

The people on Fox News clearly do not meet this definition

JHB

(37,160 posts)
21. She's got Brock envy
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:02 PM
Jan 2014

When David Brock grew a conscience and stopped being a conservative smear-artist, Ann leaped in to fill his shoes (or rather, plug herself into that cash cow) but she never had the impact he did. He "greatest" accomplishment in smearing was helping leak to the press what Paula Jones claimed about Bill Clinton's dick. From supposedly confidential court documents.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
22. Never trust a liberal
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jan 2014


Do not watch this... But, it is funny, look at the people who are there in support of this thing.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
15. Ann Coulter needs to name the smart conserative and then they can be set up on the shows
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jan 2014

I bet she was rattling her mouth on a RW show. Ann doesn't have what it takes to debate either Maddow or Schultz. Let us not forget how many in the GOP thought George W was smart, guess they have a different standard.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
16. That's not why they don't have you on, Ann...
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jan 2014

Hate to break it to you, but <stage whisper>you're not in that club.</stage whisper>

Go play with your own elf-ears Annie.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
19. Dimwit Coulter doesn't get it.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:02 PM
Jan 2014

Rachel doesn't have a "debate" show. She books news makers and journalists. Thankfully she's not interested in having some loud mouth radio talk show host braying the latest right wing talking points.

SamKnause

(13,102 posts)
31. Ann Coulter
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:25 PM
Jan 2014

claims.......................

You can stop reading after that.

When has she ever been right about anything ?

Remember the bombs we dropped on Egypt ??? Neither does anyone else, because it didn't happen. She made a fool out of herself on Bill Maher's show, Real Time.

What a tool.

There is nothing these tools will not do, or say to get air time, or sell a book.

They really are despicable people.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
35. Hey Annie! That's because there are no smart conservatives to debate.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:31 PM
Jan 2014

"Derp Derp Derp" is not intelligence, Annie.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
36. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:34 PM
Jan 2014

hahahahahahahaha!

The woman is totally BONKERS. Rachel and Ed would make MINCED MEAT out of any Conservative who could bring him/herself to actually debate on the facts rather than their usual fiction.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
38. Question?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:36 PM
Jan 2014
“I was talking about I had sent out a tweet, obviously I was talking 100% about MSNBC, it drives me crazy that they never have a half articulate conservative on, and which is you know, ok, you’re living in your little insular world and you end up saying crazy things,"

What exactly is a half articulate conservative? Name names Ann! Who in your party is half articulate? IYHO.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
40. That phrase is an oxymoron.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 09:38 PM
Jan 2014

There are, never have been, and never will be, such a thing.

As for William F. Buckley, that legend in his own mind was a fascist.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Johonny

(20,848 posts)
44. Fox has intelligent liberals- that most liberals don't consider liberal
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 10:19 PM
Jan 2014

I grant you the "liberals" Faux rolls out are pretty impressive in their credentials but they are almost all old and their liberal accomplishments far in the past or essentially non-existent. Running a fail presidential campaign in the 80s aren't exactly hot beds of liberalism these days.

There aren't say not anymore impressive as Megan McCain who is actually involved in the youth movement of the Republican Party or Micheal Steel who recently ran the party. Both appear or recently appeared on MSNBC. The same with Rand Paul who used to appear until he needed to booster his RW creds my losing his mind on Maddow.

That's the problem in her statement to me. Fox has smart liberals... no their smart liberals are smart conservative Democrats that may not even vote democrat anymore. The rest of their show is vapid Republican toadyism. While they do land more actual elected Democrats as guests... that is what MCNBC is complaining about. They want elected Republicans to come on their shows but they won't. Instead they get offers from people like Coulter that essentially offer nothing constructive for MCNBC audience. She isn't an elected official, she doesn't appear relevant or in command of any facts.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
45. When she first went on the air, Rachel used to get regular Republican guests
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 10:26 PM
Jan 2014

on her show. They probably figured they didn't need to be afraid of a "girl" like Maddow.

However, after she embarrassed them 9 times out of 10, word most likely went out from Karl Rove and/or others that Republicans should avoid her show. (I say 9 times out of 10 because an occasional Republican managed to not get humiliatingly embarrassed, though 9 out of those 10 were still over-matched.)

mithnanthy

(1,725 posts)
46. BRING IT ON!!!! Ann
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jan 2014

Rachel and Ed will eat her alive!!!! She is the WORST person I've ever been exposed to!!! Her PATHETIC attempt to get ATTENTION! BARF!

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
65. + about a million! They consider talking loudly over their opponents to be "debating", where the one
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:01 AM
Jan 2014

who won't let the other get a word in is considered the "winner."

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
51. TRANSLATION: "Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz Are Smart Enough
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 10:58 PM
Jan 2014

To Avoid Lending Me Any Credibility by Debating Dumb Conservatives Like Me."


rocktivity[/.b]

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
52. Wouldn't we have to find one first in order to even have the debate
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:02 PM
Jan 2014

just saying?

I remember in 2008 when Rachel Maddow took out Pat Buchanon. I'm sure she would be fine with whomever the GOP tries to put up against her next.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
55. I hope she isn't referring to herself!
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:39 PM
Jan 2014

She is not a debater; she is a shock jock whose entire career is based on spewing insults, most of which are in crude and boorish bad taste. She is never considered as a serious political historian or debater (nor even as a person of any substance). She is, at best, a side show clown who fits very well in the make believe world of fox, but not in a real news show with serious people discussing serious topics.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
59. I'm sure there are smart conservatives, but you never see them on TV, or at least they hide it
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jan 2014

behind their rabid dog schtick. Coulter is reportedly smart, but what she does on TV is schtick.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
60. There's a reason Ed and Rachel don't have "half-articulate conservatives" on to debate.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:45 PM
Jan 2014

The best they can find are conservatives who are one-quarter articulate(or maybe one-eight, on a typical day).

Mira

(22,380 posts)
61. I am shaking my head in disgust at these wimpy and scared folks
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:50 PM
Jan 2014

who won't come on the shows because they know deep down that their ignorance will be obvious even without having lights shined on it on purpose, which would not happen to them because the hosts are civilized. They even allow people to finish their statements, and don't talk over them most of the time if they behave with dignity.

It comes to mind:
Teach a man to think, and lose a Republican.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
64. Yep. And if Coulter could get any intelligent Rs to agree to come on the show,
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:59 PM
Jan 2014

Rachel would be fine with it. But if they're actually intelligent, they know better than to try to "debate" Rachel.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
62. Obviously, she's talking about herself....
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:52 PM
Jan 2014

.... because, well, that's all Ann has, is herself.

Maddow and Schultz want real people who know something, not circus acts who write entire books about subjects of which they know nothing. What is there worth talking to Coulter about? No one really cares what she actually thinks. They are just waiting for her next zinger. Why waste time with that? Like Barney Frank said to some Teabagger constituent: "On what planet do you spend most of your time?" ... "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table."

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
63. That's the line on Coulter
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 11:55 PM
Jan 2014

She's totally about reversing reality and expecting that nobody will have the guts to call her on it. And of course none do as they are all busy worshiping at the conservative god-head.

I'm convinced that Coulter is significantly smarter than what she says. She just says it because she recognizes that she has a niche in the right wing universe if she says outrageous crap. And she is confident that no one will call her on it and SHE'S RIGHT! No one will because they're all far to stupid to stop genuflecting at the irrationality of the ultra-right's service to corporate power.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
72. Surely Coulter deserves...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:44 AM
Jan 2014

some sort of duality award - it's tough to be a dumbass and a smartass at the same time.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
75. Could it be the reason why Republicans don't go on these shows...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:25 AM
Jan 2014

...is because they don't want their asses handed to them? I'm sure both Ed and Rachel would welcome a debate with the conservative brain trust.

This is coming from someone who apparently won't sit on a Real Time With Bill Maher panel, choosing instead to have the opening one-on-one where all she does is laugh like a horse, toss her mane, and give the audience the stinkeye when they react to her bullshit.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
76. Besides disparaging barrages, what would that single celled amoeba have to say ?
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:36 AM
Jan 2014

Look at the blank look on her face when refuted, there's nothing there . She put the Misanthrope in MSM, her and her brothers Rush, Sean, and Blabba O'Riled .

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
77. Rachel and Ed both comment at the end of segments that
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 06:46 AM
Jan 2014

The GOP politician in question on a particular topic was invited to appear, but they refused. They know they'll be eviscerated.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
79. Says it all...
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:48 AM
Jan 2014

"Maddow tries desperately to book Republicans on her show, but they won’t go on her show. Ed Schultz has the same problem. Republicans won’t go on his show. The reason isn’t because they are afraid that they will lose an argument. Republicans refuse go on these shows because they fear the questions that they will be asked. Republicans don’t want to discuss why they won’t extend unemployment benefits, oppose raising the minimum wage, cut food stamps, and keep blocking jobs bills."

In other words THEY DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS THEIR POSITIONS ON THE ISSUES. They CANNOT DEFEND THEIR POSITION ON THE ISSUES.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
80. Maddow and Schults would LOVE to debate a smart conservative.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jan 2014

They should ask Coulter if she knows one.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
81. Like anyone should listen to that POS.
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jan 2014

She must be mad, because nobody wants to talk to the dried up husk of Ann Rand.

Mike Daniels

(5,842 posts)
82. Pretty funny when you consider that Rachel reguarly had 'crazy uncle' Pat Buchanan early on
Thu Jan 23, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jan 2014

Nazi fascist he may be but is one thing Buchanan is not is stupid.

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