Ah, jeez, that damned woman will be the death of the Democratic Party

[MannyGoldstein]

Know what she said tonight at a talk in New York City?

Q: Who does our government really work for?
A: Answer right now is a sad one. But we're going to change that.

What next? What next? Taxing the Job Creators at the same rate as the Little People? No sensible, common-sense cuts to Social Security? Making bankers actually follow the rules? Restoring cuts to food stamps and unemployment benefits? Handing Republicans their asses on a serving dish, flambeed and sauced with a delightful mango-balsamic reduction?

@#$%. She's ruining it. She's ruining everything.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[1StrongBlackMan]

1. Vanity Post ALERT. n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

16. Where! Where!

She's a fine-looking woman, who could at least keep the beat!



Perhaps you can provide a link instead of just teasing us?

[JoePhilly]

64. I used to wonder why the right wing said liberals thought Obama was the Messiah.

Someday, thanks to OPs like this one, they might be saying it about Warren.

[Fumesucker]

68. I used to wonder too...

[JoePhilly]

71. Can you imagine ...

... if an Obama supporter adopted an alternate persona that attacked other Democrats, as a way to promote Obama's accomplishments?

They'd be called a sycophant, or maybe worse.

So its kind of fun to watch.

[Fumesucker]

75. This place cracks me up

It's a never ending hoot, the sheer amusement is what keeps me coming back.

Monsters from the Id indeed.

[JoePhilly]

77. Hillary was "inevitable" last time.

The media is continuing that meme.

Curious ... do you think the media sold Obama as the "Messiah"?

Where did that RW meme come from? The media didn't create it.

[Fumesucker]

78. Some DUers seem to like Andrew Sullivan

[JoePhilly]

80. Notice the date on that ... 2012, not 2008.

The RW "Obama is the liberal's Messiah" meme was created when he was a candidate in 2008, not 2012.

The fact that 4 years later, Newsweek used the meme, is irrelevant to how the RW came up with that meme.

Bottom line: The OP has become that which he railed against. Just doesn't seem to know it yet.

[Fumesucker]

90. The rhetorical contortions some go through to defend all things Obama should give you a clue

The right wing throws an incredible amount of rhetoric around, anything that remotely looks like sticking will be repeated endlessly.

I learned my lesson with Bubba, last ditch defense of politicians is not something I do any more.

And if anyone was treated like a Messiah it was Dubya after 9/11, I'm a proud 10%er and watching that particular display was really disturbing when you weren't part of it. Sort of like being the only sober person in a convention of delusional drunks.

Like 90% of what Republicans do, their accusations of Messiah against Obama are projection, pure and simple.

[cui bono]

101. Are you kidding? You can see it right here on DU.

Look at all the Obama supporters - apologists really - defending things that I'm sure they would and did criticize when Bush did them, but when Obama escalates them it's all fine and is defended at the expense of having principles.

Which came first? I'm not sure, but that doesn't make it untrue. Just look in the BOG.

[Rockyj]

91. We can't let the corporate Media...

...determine who should run for President for the Democratic Party!
Too many corporate owned Bushes & Too many corporate owned Clintons....enough already!

[Titonwan]

73. That is one scary picture, man...

and I'm not talking about the little green dude.

[dlwickham]

107. I think she already is the messiah for some on this board

you'll be attacked in a hurry for any criticism of St Elizabeth

[panader0]

2. I remember when I thought, years ago, that BHO was good but didn't have a chance.

I hope the same fate befalls Warren.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. You are too funny, my dear Manny!

I'm lovin' it!

[brooklynite]

4. Wow! an incomplete website and a poster! That'll do the trick...

@warren4prez: 8,142 followers
@readyforhillary: 100,000 followers

Still a ways to go?

[MannyGoldstein]

7. And hopefully it will STAY that way.

Once more people know who Elizabeth Warren is, and what she stands for... it won't go well for her.

Americans know that there is a natural class order, and that the little people must grow littler and the gig people must grow bigger. That is the the American Way - it's what makes us great. That difficult woman must NOT be allowed to upset this natural order.

[Titonwan]

74. Ah, I seen what you done there!

Tee hee!

[frylock]

19. 8,143 followers

[MannyGoldstein]

21. LOL

Well done!

(First-Way Manny)

[brooklynite]

28. So, at that rate, Warren will be ready in 2024...

...when President Clinton retires.

[frylock]

30. keep talking

[MannyGoldstein]

31. Warren's already picked out a campaign theme song!!!

Am I right? Or am I right?

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[joshcryer]

52. And she'll be going up against Clinton's VP, Julien Castro.

Good luck with that.

[JDPriestly]

40. Elizabeth Warren is not as well known, doesn't have the name recognition, of Hillary.

But Elizabeth Warren is a far more attractive candidate. She is much smarter than Hillary (and there aren't many who are) and cares more about ordinary people. Elizabeth Warren's ideas on policy would serve most of us much better than would Hillary's.

Hillary is out of touch. Elizabeth Warren touches you as soon as you hear her speak. Give Elizabeth Warren a chance.

Are you talking about followers on Facebook? I never go to Facebook or Twitter.

[azurnoir]

44. Neither did Barack Obama in 2006

however by 2008 that had changed wouldn't you say?

[JDPriestly]

50. Yes. Could change quickly now. Hillary has a lot of baggage.

Some of the aspersions against her are quite unfair, but they are still there, and a lot of people believe the lies.

In addition, she is really chummy with Wall Street, once served on the Walmart board. Wow! Lot's of opportunities to diss her, and her stances on Social Security and war, etc. are not mine.

[bvar22]

103. Hillary???...... Out of Touch????

[bobduca]

20. Using that logic, Lets all vote for @aplusk

[sabrina 1]

33. I didn't know about it, so now I'm going to sign up. Make that 8,142 followers and I will tweet it

to my followers and they will tweet it to theirs and so on.

Check back in a week or so once it gets all over the social media.

No way would I consider any candidate who supports Wars and the TPP. That's not even a possibility for any Democrat that I know.

[arely staircase]

94. funny thing is, EW is more likely to be part of the latter than the former

since she is A. not running for president and B. has encouraged HC to run. But let people have their little fantasies. When Warren makes her official endorsement of Clinto it will be ineresting to see if they throw her under the bus or go with the 'she had no choice' spin.

[arely staircase]

5. what serious democratic leader has actually said that about her? nt

[SidDithers]

6. If you clap your hands enough, Tinkerbell will live!!...

Keep clapping Manny.

Sid

[xocet]

15. Hey, at least, he is only clapping. That is far better than what you are doing. n/t

[rhett o rick]

32. You are always taking pot shots but I never see you commit yourself. Who do you favor?

I am guessing that with Christie out of the picture you favor H. Clinton-Sachs. What can help the country more than eight more years of Wall Street profits.

[sabrina 1]

34. Christie had so many supporters here, and in the Democratic Party itself. But we're not hearing

anything from them lately. We tried to warn them when the Dem Party was endorsing him, he was soooo bi-partisan we were told. Well there goes another example of bi-partisanship, down the drain. Gates, Clapper, Christie. How much does it take before our party finally figures out that you cannot trust Republicans? Or could it be that they know that already?

[rhett o rick]

37. If Christie had changed parties, there are some here that would have loved him. nm

[sabrina 1]

38. Oh they loved him anyway. And 61 Democrats in NJ endorsed him leading the Dem voters to think their

own Democratic candidate didn't have a chance. The Party Leadership did not help their own candidate and left her with so little money she had no chance of beating Christie. Makes you wonder why they supported the Republican?

[2banon]

98. Dems do that A LOT! Especially in certain areas in the South and in California.

arrggh..

[Titonwan]

76. "H. Clinton-Sachs"

I'm stealing that!

[marble falls]

83. What do you stand for besides ineffectivelly sniping at Manny, Sid? ......

I prefer "third way" Manny to "no way" Sid any day. What do you stand for, Sid? Besides pot shots at Manny?

[bobduca]

92. Smear merchant slash

Bog code talker

[Dragonfli]

99. Also, fierce advocate for colonic health

I think he wrote one of the recommendations here: http://www.yelp.com/biz/north-america-colon-health-centre-vancouver

[L0oniX]

96. Oh ...your still here

[GeorgeGist]

8. Thank you Manny for watching ...

so we don't have to.

[Nye Bevan]

9. Bring it on. I always say, the more primary candidates, the merrier. (nt)

[G_j]

10. The fact is, she is extremely brave

please stay away from small planes Elizabeth (not kidding).

Run Liz Run!

[rhett o rick]

35. You can bet the NSA has a folder on her. nm

[Scuba]

11. I love how the Third Wayers expose themselves.

More revealing than a strip club.

[MannyGoldstein]

12. I am PROUD of who I am!

I am PROUD of what I've done to you people!

And with God's will, I will KEEP doing it to you all for many years.

[Scuba]

13. Please pass the K-Y.

[MannyGoldstein]

17. Goldman-Sachs has purchased almost all the K-Y, and

is storing it in a closely-guarded warehouse in Detroit. Diminished supply plus increased demand... WOW!

Larry Summers came up with the idea, is he a goddamned genius or what?

Because of the artificial shortage, I'm afraid that I'll need to charge you a LOT to have a low-friction experience. Sorry, just business.

[mstinamotorcity2]

97. Don't put Detroit

in this one you are on your own here buddy

[MannyGoldstein]

100. It's stored with the aluminum:

http://www.detroityes.com/mb/showthread.php?16750-Goldman-Sachs-Hoarding-1-5M-Tons-Of-Aluminum-In-27-Detroit-Area-Warehouses

[Bohunk68]

59. K-Y is soooooo passe,

ID glide natural feel or ID BackSlide anal formula. Doesn't dry out near as quickly.

[Control-Z]

27. You people? (nt)

[MisterP]

39. there oughtta be a mandatory retirement age

[AgingAmerican]

14. What did she know

AND when did she know it?

[blkmusclmachine]

18. I hear Hillary's got a plan...

[awoke_in_2003]

25. yep, it's called

Make Clintons Richer

[sabrina 1]

36. I wouldn't be surprised if she asked Warren to be her running mate.

[JDPriestly]

41. Both from the Northeast. Won't happen.

[Art_from_Ark]

47. Well, Hillary spent 20 years in Arkansas,

about the same time in Illinois, and more than a decade in DC, so I wouldn't exactly say that she was "from the Northeast".

[JDPriestly]

48. She lives in New York, and lived in D.C. before that.

Actually, she has lived on the East coast for over 20 years.

[Art_from_Ark]

49. So that's a little less than 1/3 of her life

or about the same amount of time she spent in Arkansas.

[JDPriestly]

51. It's the most recent 1/3 of her life. Where she spent her childhood or went to college (Northeast)

are not so important.

She is from the Northeast. That's where she lives.

[Art_from_Ark]

53. Well, I live in Japan,

and it seems like I've been here forever, but I still don't consider myself to be "from Japan".

[JDPriestly]

55. I assume that you are not running for political office.

[Art_from_Ark]

56. If I were running for political office,

would the media consider me to be "from Japan"?

[MADem]

104. Odds are good you'd get major pushback on that score.

Particularly if you were running in a state where Japan had encroached upon the earnings potential of the region; e.g. a location where a US car manufacturer was up against Toyota or what-have-you.

Opposition research, when done properly, endeavors to make any and every possible anamoly a negative. Since most American people don't "live in Japan," (I did, for quite a few years, a few decades ago--but I am not a typical American) you would, as a candidate, be painted as an "other," an "outsider" and a person who doesn't understand the issues facing "the regular people" in the community where you were running. "While ART was off huntin' endangered whales for his meals of bloody raw fish, the rest of us were (fill in the blank)"...."While Art was baskin' in the glow of that damn nuclear reactor, the rest of us were (blah blah blah)."

It's easy to go negative. Doesn't have to be true, doesn't have to be salient (see OBAMA, Kenya, and Birth Certificate if you don't believe me). And it's often the first instinct, particularly if the candidate is unknown or has a lot of blanks just waiting to be filled in. First impressions are, after all, lasting.

[Art_from_Ark]

109. I'd just have to counter them

with a blitz about the Arkansas side of my family, the fact that I got my hands rough with all sorts of jobs in Arkansas, the fact that I know what it is like to live from paycheck to paycheck, that I consistently voted in Arkansas elections, and that I made regular visits back to the state.

You can take the man out of Arkansas, but you can't take Arkansas out of the man

[Titonwan]

79. Here nor there- it doesn't matter.

You know the old sayin'- "You can take Hillary out of Wall Street but you can't take Wall Street out of Hillary."

[zeemike]

22. She is a difficult woman.

And causing trouble for the third way woman who already has the big bucks for the run.
It is a sad state of affairs when money does not rule politics...I think that is communism or socialism or something.

[sheshe2]

23. She will Rock the Senate!

Elizabeth Warren, a fearless consumer advocate who has made her life's work the fight for middle class families, was elected to the United States Senate on November 6, 2012, by the people of Massachusetts.

Elizabeth is recognized as one of the nation's top experts on bankruptcy and the financial pressures facing middle class families, and the Boston Globe has called her "the plainspoken voice of people getting crushed by so many predatory lenders and under regulated banks."

She is widely credited for the original thinking, political courage, and relentless persistence that led to the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. President Obama asked her to set up the new agency to hold Wall Street banks and other financial institutions accountable, and to protect consumers from financial tricks and traps often hidden in mortgages, credit cards and other financial products.

In the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis, Warren served as Chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel for the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP). Her independent and tireless efforts to protect taxpayers, to hold Wall Street accountable, and to ensure tough oversight of both the Bush and Obama Administrations won praise from both sides of the aisle. The Boston Globe named Elizabeth Warren Bostonian of the Year and TIME Magazine called her a "New Sheriff of Wall Street" for her oversight efforts.

During her campaign for the Senate, Elizabeth promised to fight for middle class families and to make sure that everyone has a fair shot to get ahead. She called for policies that would level the regulatory playing field for small businesses and ensure that everyone - even large and powerful corporations - pays a fair share in taxes and is held accountable for breaking the law.

http://www.warren.senate.gov/?p=about_senator

She is amazing, her focus is on the middle class and holding Wall Street banks and other financial institutions accountable She is going to make history in the Senate. It is her destiny! She can focus...FOCUS on these two issues. Why some wish her to waiver on her strengths is beyond me.

Hey Manny she already did do run run. Guess what she won! She is in a place that she will exceed our expectations. Sad that you always wish she leave.

[MannyGoldstein]

29. But give credit where credit's due:

when our President realized the mistake he'd made, he promptly booted Warren from his administration. He is a firm and decisive leader, the pride of Wall Street.

Why can't the good people of Massachusetts be as wise as our President?

And now these nudniks want WARREN to be President? Holy @#$%.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

[joshcryer]

46. Why do you keep revising history?

Warren did not want to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

The fact that she's on the head of the Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee proves that she has more power there than she ever would have had under the CFPB.

[MannyGoldstein]

63. Larry Summers was just doing her - and all America - a huge favor!

Larry Summers Helped Torpedo Elizabeth Warren CFPB Nomination

And I speak with authority, as the leader of one of the Internet's brightest and freshest Conservative outlets.

[joshcryer]

66. She didn't want it.

And it's fucked up you think her ambitions were for a bureau that had to report to congress every fucking time they called upon it.

BTW, franksolich has a lot of love for you, Manny, you should probably reciprocate lest it be sadly unrequited. Dude loves you. Fawns over you. Is literally your biggest fan.

The fact that this has touched you so, I think, struck a nerve. Maybe you're not his sock, but damn, it's gotta be close. I'll figure it out.

It's going to be fuckin' awesome when Hillary Clinton is the nominee. Either flame out or indulgence (flip flop because she chooses Castro). Either way I crack the fuck up.

[MannyGoldstein]

67. I hope it's not too late! You may have already!

[joshcryer]

69. Support Jobs Obama America

Literally the ad I was forced to see before that epic video.

edit:

Favorited.

No, it's not funny no more. But politics fucking sucks.

When will you realize American political reality and stop posting BS, Manny?

I don't think you're stupid. But I do think you get a kick out of being disingenuous. It works, it's fun, it's hilarious, but shit, it sucks for everyone.

[ProSense]

72. Enjoy:

[bobduca]

93. Team Inevitable Cheer Squad

It's customary for you all to post ROFL emoticon when spitting bile at fellow DU'ers.

[MADem]

102. I think you've said something of profound significance, here.

Pity most won't realize it. Maybe the admins will....

[ProSense]

70. Here:

Why does that "damned woman" keep saying nice things about our President?

[JDPriestly]

42. She is so good in the Senate representing Massachusetts that I want her to run for the presidency

and represent the interest of the entire country.

[blue14u]

24. If Hillary is smart

She may throw all her money and connections toward Liz and give her the nomination! !!!
Elizabeth WARREN FOR POFTU 2016 is music to my ears.

I'm hanging on to every morsel of being I have to see her win POTUS 2016...

GO LIZ GO for it!!! 2016 President of the United States States...
ELIZABETH WARREN 2016

[AAO]

26. When I prepare Republican for dinner

I like to cut, dice, chop, mince, shave, pound, puree, whip, and fricassee!

[RobertEarl]

43. My Gawd!!

What's wrong with her? Not enough bankster money flowing her way?

[joshcryer]

45. How much have they raised?

[fadedrose]

54. She grows on me more and more..

I'm afraid I'm just too old to learn a 3rd way.

[Jasana]

57. I doubt Liz is going to run...

But her voice is forcing the Demo party to confront itself. Your either Liz or you're a waste of Demo breath.

[anasv]

58. For a minute there,

I thought this was a post about that mega-super pac backing Hillary, and I came over to agree with you.

I prefer Biden-Warren, though, then eight years later Warren.

[Enthusiast]

60. Recommended X 1000!

Thanks for calling our attention to the evil Elizabeth Warren, Manny! She's ruining everything.

[ZM90]

61. I'm ready for Warren n/t.

[NCTraveler]

62. She doesn't have the charisma necessary.

She can't give big flowery speeches. She caters to smart people. Her thoughts do not make good fifteen second sound bites. She is too far left. People with the attention span of gnats don't like her. How do you think she will look on a beach in a bikini. She cares about the poor and income inequality.

Some people don't think of these important factors when it comes to whom they support. We need to remove her from the party. She is a threat to what the last five presidents have worked so hard for. She is a clear danger to that which is so important to us.

[Titonwan]

81. Elizabeth is a great woman.

Therefore we will be indoctrinated into accepting H. Sachs-Clinton as our new Decider-in-Charge™

[NCTraveler]

82. I think many people on this board will be pleasantly surprised if Warren runs.

I know this Hillary supporter will be 100% behind Warren in the primary. I think it would be great for the party to have Hillary go against Warren.

[Titonwan]

84. Sorry, I'm never supporting HRC

Our last two Democrat presidents have been sellouts and- as corrupt as government is now- I don't see that changing.
I'll write in Edward Snowden for potus.
And then I'll write you thoughtful letters from Guantanamo (heavily redacted, of course).

[NCTraveler]

87. I think you have serious reading comprehension problems.

Nothing I wrote could be interpreted as me asking you to support HRC in any way at all. No need to apologize to me for something I never asked of you in the first place. Very strange post you have there. The more I read of your post the less sense it makes. HRC/Snowden/Guantanamo? Hmmmmm.

[BrainDrain]

65. I Hope

she ruins it...right into the White house......

[Richardo]

85. ...said no one at all.

[MannyGoldstein]

88. Haven't you heard the Good News?

What you missed in the Elizabeth Warren vs Third Way battle

[heaven05]

86. thank goodness, at last

Warren 2016. Although as a Senator, she can affect the outcome of many piece of legislation, in our favor, vs as POTUS, she would be limited by the Teathugs, rethugs and generally sexist, racist idiots in our government from doing just about anything positive for the 99%ers.

[JNelson6563]

89. And infrastructure! I hope to gawd we never invest in that!

What would be come of us???

Good post you madman.

Julie

[Spitfire of ATJ]

95. I know, a lot of blood sweat an tears has gone into the effort to make Wall Street love Democrats...

Be a shame to see all of that undone by some rabble rouser that looks like a librarian.

[colsohlibgal]

105. Third Way Types (AKA Neo-Democrats) Have Helped Bring Us This Glorious And Rising Inequality

And that most certainly includes the Clintons. These types trend liberal on social issues but are in deep with crony capitalism otherwise.

I knew which way Obama was going when right pout the gate he brought in Rubin and Larry Summers. What a scam those in and out of Wall Street guys run, pass laws favoring huge profits for banksters when in government, then scoot back to Wall Street to profit from those loosened rules.

It's the big con and why despite fraud on a massive scale, not only did no real big shot see jail, we had to bail them out, Nice job Eric Holder.

[indepat]

106. May Senator Warren precipitate the death of corporatist governance which is fast-ly moving our

country to third-world status in so many quality-of-life ranking factors, all just so the plutocrats and oligarchs can be gorged at the public trough.

[jsr]

108. No worries. She's still uninevitable.

[treestar]

110. What has she accomplished, exactly?

What bills that she's proposed have passed? If she can't get the Senate to pass her proposals, how is she any better than Obama?