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BY SARAH PARSONS
Scotts Miracle-Gro products are known for zapping weeds dead. But it turns out they could be killing decidedly more attractive creatures birds.
Scotts pled guilty this Tuesday to charges that the company illegally put insecticides in its Morning Song and Country Pride brands of bird seed. Thats right: The company knowingly coated products intended for birds to eat with substances toxic to birds and wildlife.
The company continued to produce and market the insecticide-coated seeds despite being alerted to toxicity dangers by a Scotts staff chemist and ornithologist.
And heres the icing on the toxin-loaded cake: Storcide II, one of the insecticides in Scotts seed, comes with a huge warning label that reads: Toxic to birds, toxic to wildlife and Exposed treated seed may be hazardous to birds. Must be that a senior exec at Scotts got shat on by a pigeon one day and took it real personal.
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Agony
(2,605 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Initech
(100,081 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)needed to get rid of and took a clue from the Chinese about how to dispose of hazardous waste.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)RogerRiver
(4 posts)I just returned my bag of Scott's grass seed after seeing this yesterday. Will not be giving that company any more of my money
XanaDUer
(12,939 posts)Boycott time.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Seriously - all those "weeds" and insects are what we refer to as "biodiversity". They are the basis for the food chain that feeds the birds.
Stopped using weed killer herbicide along time go. Avoid ortho and roundup!!
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)KT2000
(20,584 posts)if you learn about those chemicals and cotninue to use them. First of all do not believe the manufacturers claims of safety. Instead, make a list of the chemicals you are applying and do your own research. You can start by locating the MSDS sheets for the products you use on the web.
Go to the web site for Environmental Health Perspectives, a journal published by the National Institutes of Environmental Health Sciences, part of NIH. Put the chemical name into the search.
Search these sites:
www.healthandenvironment.org
http://exotoxnet.orst.edu
www.silentspring.org
be sure to get the latest research on Roundup too.
When you use these products you are putting them into the air for everyone in the neighborhood to breathe - children, pregnant women, the elderly and sick people as well as healthy people. Learn which chemicals can affect the developing fetus because you may be making a decision that will affect someone's entire life.
The run-off will likely extend to places where people and animals walk.
When you, and others, track the chemicals into your house they exist for a long time on your floors - especially carpets because they require sunshine and water to break down.
Babies are exposed to greater quantities because they always put things in their mouth and they spend time on the floor. Their weight abnd exposure ratio is greater. Also - for some chemicals they do not have matured systems capable of dealing with those chemicals.
Here are just some of the health conditions associated with pesticides and herbicides:
Aplastic anemia, arrythmias, asthma, cancers: bone/ewing sarcoma, brain, kidney, pancreatic, testicular
cognitive impairment
leukemia
miscarriage
multiple myloma
parkinson's disease
reduced fertility
Even low levels can harm people and a developing fetus may have development blocked that results in permanent damage. When they are older they are often called learning disabled.
REP
(21,691 posts)I grow orchids. Hundreds of orchids. You think I tolerate aphids, snails, mealy bugs, etc? Fuck no. I kill them, but I use alcohol, soap and water. Doesn't harm the birds that visit my growing area.
Weeds can be controlled by pulling, selective planting, and if one has the room, chickens. I'm landscaping the lot at my house as grass-free as possible - we're in drought most of the year and I think grass is boring - and I'm looking at aggressive ground cover
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)non poisionus ways to kill weeds. There is nothing wrong with killing them.
Vinegar is one way.
You don't need poison to do it.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Cannot even walk through it do the the various spiny weeds that got a foothold. Sorry, no thanks.
KT2000
(20,584 posts)If it takes poisoning our family and neighbors, maybe the perfect lawn is not the answer.
First of all do not believe the manufacturers claims of safety. Instead, make a list of the chemicals you are applying and do your own research. You can start by locating the MSDS sheets for the products you use on the web.
Go to the web site for Environmental Health Perspectives, a journal published by the National Institutes of Environmental Health Sciences, part of NIH. Put the chemical name into the search.
Search these sites:
http://www.healthandenvironment.org
http://exotoxnet.orst.edu
http://www.silentspring.org
be sure to get the latest research on Roundup too.
When you use these products you are putting them into the air for everyone in the neighborhood to breathe - children, pregnant women, the elderly and sick people as well as healthy people. Learn which chemicals can affect the developing fetus because you may be making a decision that will affect someone's entire life.
The run-off will likely extend to places where people and animals walk.
When you, and others, track the chemicals into your house they exist for a long time on your floors - especially carpets because they require sunshine and water to break down.
Babies are exposed to greater quantities because they always put things in their mouth and they spend time on the floor. Their weight abnd exposure ratio is greater. Also - for some chemicals they do not have matured systems capable of dealing with those chemicals.
Here are just some of the health conditions associated with pesticides and herbicides:
Aplastic anemia, arrythmias, asthma, cancers: bone/ewing sarcoma, brain, kidney, pancreatic, testicular
cognitive impairment
leukemia
miscarriage
multiple myloma
parkinson's disease
reduced fertility
Even low levels can harm people and a developing fetus may have development blocked that results in permanent damage. When they are older they are often called learning disabled.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Next up is general weed and feed.
KT2000
(20,584 posts)look up 2,4-D - especially current research.
Knowledgeable public health professionals have been trying to get it banned.
KT2000
(20,584 posts)this website has some info that will help you make informed decisions. There are resources on the right side of the page - you will notice that many of our current health problems are arising from exposures to toxic chemicals.
http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/doczone/2008/disappearingmale/chemicals.html.
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)"Sorry, we can't find the page you requested. "
KT2000
(20,584 posts)I don't know what happened. Failed for me too. Here is a link to the main page: http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/doczone/2008/disappearingmale/
It works for sure if you google: CBC Disappearing Male
Very interesting information there
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)well, i guess there isn't much to discuss. you got yours.
screw the bugs, the insects and the birds that depend on them.
(also, probably can't call yourself an environmentalist)
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Thanks for reminding me that I need to fog the lawn. My young niece is staying for the day this Thursday and we have a huge problem with mosquitoes.
arikara
(5,562 posts)and have never used poisons.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]But why? It doesn't make any sense. I don't understand what they could have been thinking.
Mariana
(14,858 posts)Keep the bugs from eating the seed so we don't lose money. Use the CHEAP bugkiller to maximize our profit. So what if it kills birds. The birds won't drop dead right away at the feeders. No one will ever know.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Profits. I get it now.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)RogerRiver
(4 posts)All - spread the word, twitter, Facebook the heck out of this. This is a prime example of why we need regulation. This was done despite warnings from the company's orinthologist.
Boycott Scotts, miracle gro, ortho, roundup, morning song, country pride.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)to cede our government to corporations. Corporations don't have morality. They function for profit and the bottom line, period.
They knew. Someone obviously made a calculation. Continuing to sell the seed and facing any fines or judgments that would come of that was more lucrative than doing the right thing.
We are putting analogous judgments - about war, about environmental issues, about health care, about the treatment of our poor and elderly, about our educational system - in the hands of corporations every single day we don't fight back against the purchase of our government.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Mabus
(14,352 posts)this explains some of what was discussed.
iirc, the thread was about a decline in some of the more prevalent species in different areas of the country. I know I saw fewer robins and almost no cardinals where I live. At the time, I thought part of the problem in my particular neighborhood was due to my city's use of lawn chemicals. Now that this has come out about Scott's, it explains the decrease in population a little more fully. I live in a pretty laid-back, socially and environmentally conscious neighborhood where bird feeders are standard.
This revelation is disgusting.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I never buy their products. Now I will write to them and explain to them exactly what I think of them.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)It seems incomprehensible.
RogerRiver
(4 posts)Dear Fellow Bird Lover,
You might find that your favorite Scotts, Morning Song or Country Pride wild bird or wild animal food isn't available where you normally buy it.
We are in the process of replacing these products because we determined that we needed to stop applying certain insect controls. These controls were used to make sure that our bird and animal food wasn't infested with moths and other problem-causing insects.
The insect controls that we had used are EPA-approved for use on some stored grains, including grains that may be turned into human food. However, the insect controls are not EPA-approved for wild bird food or wild animal food.
We believe that the wild bird food and wild animal food did not constitute a significant health risk to wild birds, small animals or humans who handle the food.
We have discontinued use of the unapproved insect controls.
felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)Scotts as a chemlawn company is as environmentally destructive as Monsanto, sadly this is not surprising.
We are 'the environment'-- as without so within--our bodies come from the Earth, take in nourishment from the Earth and return to the Earth. We are Earthlings--and myths teaching people they are 'above it all' with dominion 'over' everything is where we took a turn for the worst!
surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)We need to be able to send the people who made these decisions to jail.
hankthecrank
(653 posts)Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Trying to control Indianmeal Moths.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indianmeal_Moth
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)are there too many birds?
Snake Alchemist
(3,318 posts)Not sure if they're required to have measures against the moth or they just thought it would be a good idea. I know they're a huge problem for cereal, grains, etc.
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