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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:25 PM Jan 2014

"If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?"

Got this quote from a friend's email:

"What gets me, is that people with a lot of money associate their wealth with super intelligence, super hardwork, and being all around a super person. Like when Bill Gates challenges the World Chess Champion to a game of Chess and loses in 75 seconds. An average player probably could have held out for 15 or 20 moves. Personally I think the part of one's brain that is devoted to making money , crowds out everything else when that's your only goal in life."
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"If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?" (Original Post) LongTomH Jan 2014 OP
The dollaroplogus? The casholas? Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #1
This is my pet peave Awknid Jan 2014 #2
Maybe I'm not rich because I'm so smart. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #3
That's the smartest kind of smart there is... Octafish Jan 2014 #10
+ a Brazilian! nt raouldukelives Jan 2014 #35
Personally...I don't don't associate rich with brains Tripper11 Jan 2014 #4
Another crapping on rich people, sour grapes thread. badtoworse Jan 2014 #5
Yes - it is pretty tough to be rich in America el_bryanto Jan 2014 #11
Stereotyping - it's the hypocrisy of the people doing it that I dislike badtoworse Jan 2014 #13
The problem is that the wealthy run everything in our society el_bryanto Jan 2014 #15
That's ridiculous. laundry_queen Jan 2014 #16
Richies don't give a fuck what sex or color, they'll fuck ya. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #17
Yup, it's how they got there. nt laundry_queen Jan 2014 #21
How rich can you be before the shame should kick in? badtoworse Jan 2014 #18
If you can get together with 85 of your friends laundry_queen Jan 2014 #20
Worse than ashamed, they should be run out of the society that made them rich Taitertots Jan 2014 #25
Many wealthy people have an unearned sense of superiority Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #26
oh, boohoo, won't someone think about the rich people's feelings laundry_queen Jan 2014 #14
It's social darwinism in it's modern form ck4829 Jan 2014 #6
Justin Bieber is Rich. Paris Hilton is Rich, Lindsay Lohan is rich n2doc Jan 2014 #7
Then these megalomaniacs get to decide the very course of our society through their "charity" Romulox Jan 2014 #8
Well, there are different kinds of smarts, as well. Adrahil Jan 2014 #9
I associate wealth with stupidity. It's not a law, but it's the way to bet. bemildred Jan 2014 #12
The last line in Eudora Welty's "The Petrified Man" Tom Ripley Jan 2014 #19
My last two neighbors were rich sorefeet Jan 2014 #22
The rich guy I know tries to hide his money Awknid Jan 2014 #23
Well, since *you* know that he is rich, I guess has not been 100% successful in hiding it (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #29
Alan J. Lerner once said that just as there are people who have a talent for singing, Aristus Jan 2014 #24
I don't get why the Bill Gates thing was such a big deal Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #27
Being smart is only part of it. It's a combination of being smart, being lucky, working hard, Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #28
Maybe because my moral values limit what I am willing to do tblue37 Jan 2014 #30
And my sensitivity and empathy Awknid Jan 2014 #31
In other words, you're a "loser" Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #32
And Ayn Rand collected Social Security LongTomH Jan 2014 #37
Love it! nt Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #38
Most of the ultrarich are con artists. Of course they can't admit that. reformist2 Jan 2014 #33
Actually, it usually is who you know and associate with. Xyzse Jan 2014 #34
Because I ain't a vampire? moondust Jan 2014 #36

Awknid

(381 posts)
2. This is my pet peave
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jan 2014

I completely agree. It's truly sad to watch them make asses of themselves. I know an idiot. He always was the dumbest one in the class and the least curious around. But he got lucky and got rich and now he thinks he's so smart!

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad!

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
3. Maybe I'm not rich because I'm so smart.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:46 AM
Jan 2014

I realized a long time ago that those who make a lot of money usually screw people over. I prefer to face myself in the mirror without flinching every morning.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
10. That's the smartest kind of smart there is...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:05 AM
Jan 2014

...It's called love -- the realization that another human being has infinite value and one's own path in existence is determined by that knowledge.

Too many never learn that lesson. For proof: Just look around at the world today and see.

Tripper11

(4,338 posts)
4. Personally...I don't don't associate rich with brains
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jan 2014

I tend to associate it more to lack of morals and an outright willingness to lie, steal or cheat anyone they can.
Certainly there are exceptions to that, but overall, I think that's the motivation to achieving wealth.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
13. Stereotyping - it's the hypocrisy of the people doing it that I dislike
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jan 2014

Rich people are routinely stereotyped on DU by posters who'd be screaming about any racist or sexist stereotypes they encountered. What do you think the reaction here would be if someone stereotyped poor people as lazy? Stereotyping rich people is fine though. Same thing applies to gun owners and religious people.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
15. The problem is that the wealthy run everything in our society
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jan 2014

It's like posts about White Privilege squared - regardless of whether they are miserable bastards or sweet-hearted saints - the truth is that the wealthy run things. They have access.

Also some Wealthy deserve their success; many do not.

Bryant

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
16. That's ridiculous.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jan 2014

There are good gun owners, and good religious people and good rich people. But the bad ones make life on earth a living hell for the rest of us. Maybe if there was a little shame in being rich there would be a little more humility amongst that class. And it's not even close to the same thing as racism or sexism. Insulting.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
20. If you can get together with 85 of your friends
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:40 AM
Jan 2014

and end world hunger, and you don't, you should be fucking ashamed.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
25. Worse than ashamed, they should be run out of the society that made them rich
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jan 2014

Wealth distribution is very close to being a zero sum game. People are poor because they are rich.

Distant Quasar

(142 posts)
26. Many wealthy people have an unearned sense of superiority
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:06 PM
Jan 2014

So what if not all of them do? It's a widespread, visible phenomenon. It feeds into the fantasies that support the plutocrats' death grip on our society, because too many non-rich people buy into the line that the rich are better than the rest of us and deserve outsized respect and authority. And of course, whenever anyone points this out, there's always the guy who pops up and yells "sour grapes!"

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
14. oh, boohoo, won't someone think about the rich people's feelings
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:27 AM
Jan 2014

while everyone else starves and freezes.

Seriously?

ck4829

(35,074 posts)
6. It's social darwinism in it's modern form
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:53 AM
Jan 2014

Who cares if you got out of every problem because of your daddy and his connections, if you can't function in society, or even if you'll probably starve or blow up your house without all the 'domestic help'? You've got money, you MUST be genetically superior.

They condensed it down from the color of one's skin, how thick their nose is, the shape of their skull, etc. to how wealthy they are.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
7. Justin Bieber is Rich. Paris Hilton is Rich, Lindsay Lohan is rich
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:56 AM
Jan 2014

Nothing about being rich requires you to be smart. And I won't even get into the political idiots who also happen to be rich.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
9. Well, there are different kinds of smarts, as well.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:03 AM
Jan 2014

I'm an engineer. My wife is an English Lit professor. I'd say we're both pretty smart, but our brains most certainly work differently. Some of the stuff she does makes my head hurt. Some of the stuff I do make her eyes glass over. I don't think either one of us is smarter than the other, though.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. I associate wealth with stupidity. It's not a law, but it's the way to bet.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:23 AM
Jan 2014

Buying your way through llfe does not require much intelligence. You want intelligence, go find someone thriving in a failed state. But watch out.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
22. My last two neighbors were rich
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:02 AM
Jan 2014

family hand me down money. Both were Republicans, racist, selfish, gun loving, losers. They had no friends and both died from alcohol. They both asked me to be friends because they had none and were lonely. BUT you could not befriend them. You could not stand to be around them. So I just stayed away. They died and the money went right back into the family. Whom are all losers in my opinion.
I have no desire to be rich with money. My health and happiness rich is can't be bought.

Awknid

(381 posts)
23. The rich guy I know tries to hide his money
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jan 2014

When he meets anyone, he never wants them to know he's rich (inherited wealth). He says it always makes people treat him differently and he can never trust them after that. Pretty pitiful way to live. No wonder he's an alcoholic. But he'll never have to worry about paying the bill!

I think a lot of rich people would trade places with me any time. But they'd rather die than admit it!

Aristus

(66,341 posts)
24. Alan J. Lerner once said that just as there are people who have a talent for singing,
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jan 2014

and nothing else, there are people who have a talent for making money, and nothing else.

There are smart wealthy people, but IMO, they tend to see wealth as a means to an end, rather than an end in itself.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
27. I don't get why the Bill Gates thing was such a big deal
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

the kid is a global chess champion...

There are probably dozens of card games or video games I could slap Gates around in if he actually wanted to challenge me...

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. Being smart is only part of it. It's a combination of being smart, being lucky, working hard,
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

and being in the right place at the right time. Most of the rich did not inherit their wealth. Alan Grayson, for example, started a successful business (IDT Corp, an internet and telecom company) and made his fortune from it.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
37. And Ayn Rand collected Social Security
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jan 2014

My new favorite Facebook page: Ayn Rand collected Social Security. I think you'll enjoy the banner.

The latest post is on Right-wing children's literature:


Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
34. Actually, it usually is who you know and associate with.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jan 2014

There is a dumb marketing trick, that kinda makes sense.

Basically, they ask people to write names of 5 people they hang out with the most.
After that, make an estimate of how much they earn a year.

Average those numbers, and that number is around the range you make a year.

Thing is, there is some truth about that. Where, the people you know tend to influence the opportunities that you get, and so you earn around that range as well.

It isn't because you are smart or work harder either.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
36. Because I ain't a vampire?
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jan 2014

Or some other kind of parasite getting fat off somebody else's blood, sweat, and tears?

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