Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:45 PM

So... cuts to unemployment aid and food stamps

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With three unemployed Americans for every one job opening.

What sort of sick savagery is this?

Tonight, our leaders enjoy sumptuous meals washed down with delightful wines, earned by doing favors for their Predator-Class patrons, while more American children than ever before are homeless and hungry.

This is not reasonable compromise. It is barbarism. It must end. And the people who did this, they ain't gonna end it.

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So... cuts to unemployment aid and food stamps (Original post)	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	OP
You think tonight is bad	legcramp	Jan 2014	#1
Outright Savagery	90-percent	Jan 2014	#2
+1 n/t	Alkene	Jan 2014	#73
Stop pretending it's just Republicans.	woo me with science	Jan 2014	#118
They should borrow money from their parents to go to Business School	Jackpine Radical	Jan 2014	#124
All they have to do is ask their parents for a loan!	AAO	Jan 2014	#165
Blame goes on both parties.	840high	Jan 2014	#172
Please propose your alternative that the House would actually pass.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#3
"I welcome their hatred"	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#4
So you want food stamps to be $0 for the next year. (nt)	jeff47	Jan 2014	#7
We've tried it your way for 30 years	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#8
Oh, it has been a complete disaster.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#11
We elect tough Liberals	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#12
Actually, yes one does negotiate with hostage takers, unless you want dead hostages	jeff47	Jan 2014	#13
What was the outcome when Republicans shut down the government last year	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#15
Game, set, match. n/t	ljm2002	Jan 2014	#37
Not at all. See: Unemployment extension.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#88
I agree that was total pwnage!	Rex	Jan 2014	#140
So why did Elizabeth Warren vote for the compromise bill	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#39
I hear...	randome	Jan 2014	#83
What was the outcome when Republicans refused to extend unemployment?	jeff47	Jan 2014	#87
At least with your way,	Jakes Progress	Jan 2014	#131
Yeah, because they didn't try to separate the food stamps part from the agricultural subsidies.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#135
Sigh.	Jakes Progress	Jan 2014	#202
What an incredibly dumb response.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#203
+1 n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Jan 2014	#123
"if people bothered to show up"	JDPriestly	Jan 2014	#130
20% turnout in primaries is "if people bothered to show up" territory.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#134
When we Primary an Incumbent, We Usually Lose the Seat	AndyTiedye	Jan 2014	#178
And?	jeff47	Jan 2014	#181
Every Loss makes us Weaker. Every Loss Forces Our Side to Compromise Even More	AndyTiedye	Jan 2014	#208
Yeah, just like every loss pushed the Republicans left.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#209
Both Parties Move Right Every Time they Lose	AndyTiedye	Jan 2014	#211
+1	El_Johns	Jan 2014	#183
Half Right	AndyTiedye	Jan 2014	#179
There's a reason I included that parenthetical statement.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#188
republicans control the house , are you saying some of them were tough liberals ?	JI7	Jan 2014	#14
Bulllllllllllllshit! "We" just sit around and bitch and spout winger memes...sounds like straight	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#46
BINGO!	Rex	Jan 2014	#141
The Tea Party is doing it your way right now.	Arkana	Jan 2014	#204
And executive order can solve that problem. Bush sure had no problem using it.	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#17
An executive order to appropriate funds for food stamps and unemployment?	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#19
Tell it to Obama:	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#23
You are saying he should disregard the constitution? What constitutionally permissable	kelly1mm	Jan 2014	#47
No, HE is saying it. I am saying 'don't just say it,	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#49
Yes, I am saying he is just threatening. He can do small things alone, but nothing	kelly1mm	Jan 2014	#51
He will do what he legally can do	Progressive dog	Jan 2014	#65
Obama cannot appropriate funds, only Congress can do that.......	Swede Atlanta	Jan 2014	#66
He can declare an emergency just as if it was a NATURAL disaster rather than a manmade	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#90
He still can't appropriate funds, even for an actual natural disaster.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#95
Well, I used to think they couldn't overturn the Constitution but now I know better. They	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#104
If you want to use that route, then you have to believe the NSA is fine.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#105
I haven't seen you complain about the NSA. Maybe I'm mistaken but airc, you have been a	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#107
Well, you could bother to read my other reply to you in this thread - post 100. (nt)	jeff47	Jan 2014	#108
The man ordered American citizens to be executed without due process,	Maedhros	Jan 2014	#114
My exact thought. Murder ok. Food for the needy? No can do, it's unconstitutional!	GoneFishin	Jan 2014	#185
I had to laugh	EastHarlemGayDude	Jan 2014	#117
+1	CrispyQ	Jan 2014	#133
The Constitution only matters when it presents an obstacle to helping the people	TheKentuckian	Jan 2014	#153
Some things are yes or no, no in between . It is either unconstitutional or not. It is not	kelly1mm	Jan 2014	#168
So where do extrajudicial executions of american citizens fall?	GoneFishin	Jan 2014	#190
Granted, my point remains the same. Perhaps you have some flexibility in areas I'm less quick to	TheKentuckian	Jan 2014	#197
They know ... It's a common winger meme to I absolve congress of blame for	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#53
He can declare an emergency. If they can overturn the Constitution to spy on the American	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#98
"Haven't you argued also for the abandonment of the rule of law?"	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#115
Your proposal is utterly unconstitutional.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#89
No my proposal, the President's proposal. Did you say 'Unconstitutional'??	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#96
You can't claim the Constitution is sacrosanct in the NSA case	jeff47	Jan 2014	#100
Looks like he's going to do it. The phone meta program has now been declared unconstitutional so	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#158
Heres one......The house will not pass it......	Hotler	Jan 2014	#64
Why does he have to come up with such proposals? Are you suggesting that the	rhett o rick	Jan 2014	#136
If you believe it's possible to pass a better bill	jeff47	Jan 2014	#137
I am not convinced that the WH is working very hard to save American jobs. In fact the TPP	rhett o rick	Jan 2014	#144
When the people finally revolt, it will be stealth, not just riots, that will	loudsue	Jan 2014	#5
That's why it's so important to GOTV 2014	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#6
And an FDR like the Dem Congress had. nt	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#9
There is no Presidential election in 2014	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#10
Only wingers on mixed boards have been claiming Obama has been acting outiside of	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#44
Well we had one for the first two years.	zeemike	Jan 2014	#16
The numbers	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#21
So many excuses.	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#26
Gish gallop. nt	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#28
Well at least that wasn't another excuse!	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#38
Bullshit. nt	ljm2002	Jan 2014	#40
Exactly. nt	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#41
SOP for that poster...nt	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#76
The only opinion you have, Sid, is you don't like Manny. We get it. We just don't care. Go watch....	marble falls	Jan 2014	#93
Oooh, you've cut me to the quick...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#106
Maybe he just doesn't like the things Manny says....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#109
Likely, but in this case it seems purely personal.	marble falls	Jan 2014	#166
Fdr had an 83% congress...Obama had nowhere close to that! winger	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#45
Republicans were in the minority in Congress, the House and the WH.	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#48
Obama never ever had a controlling majority of progressives in congress like fdr had	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#50
Republicans don't have a controlling majority in the Senate.	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#52
They don't need it either...do you understand how congress works?	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#54
BINGO! There's that truth stuff again...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#58
No, she doesn't.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#91
I see, it's just a common Obama = dictator meme that allows conservatives to abslolve themseles from	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#113
Seems to describe your position very well too. You flake on the side of power though.	TheKentuckian	Jan 2014	#157
so much truth you just refuse to absorb it is all...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#57
Very nice rebuttal, but you forgot their most prevalent excuse.	A Simple Game	Jan 2014	#72
What liberals didn't do in 2010	jeff47	Jan 2014	#97
So it's my job to bring a friend to the polls? How about the candidate gives the	A Simple Game	Jan 2014	#112
So you see no difference between starvation and not starvation.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#128
Poor analogy. I see no difference between eating crap and eating food that tastes like crap.	A Simple Game	Jan 2014	#167
Sure, you have food in your pantry.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#184
I never scream there is "no liberal on the ballot" because there usually is.	A Simple Game	Jan 2014	#195
Nice RWing meme that has been debunked.	Rex	Jan 2014	#143
Nope. It actually was the left-leaning moderates who didn't turn out.	jeff47	Jan 2014	#186
Left-leaning moderates stayed home because they realized they'd voted for another Republican	Doctor_J	Jan 2014	#173
So your argument is left-leaning moderates are so radical they were upset by a moderate. (nt)	jeff47	Jan 2014	#182
In 2010, We Got Outspent up to 4:1 (possibly much more) Because of Citizens United	AndyTiedye	Jan 2014	#206
This is winger lie that is false on its face	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#43
We need an FDR in the WH like that Congress had back then.	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#18
Manny said the exact same thing. Thanks.	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#20
Why are you being such a jerk?	HangOnKids	Jan 2014	#24
It's like a parrot	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#25
You are not clever or cute	HangOnKids	Jan 2014	#27
I'm not trying to be clever or cute	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#30
Thank GAWD you aren't trying	HangOnKids	Jan 2014	#32
You can think whatever you want	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#34
...	SidDithers	Jan 2014	#77
Wrong, it's a case of 'Great Minds Think Alike'!	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#29
You didn't see his reply to me?	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#31
Like I said 'great minds think alike'. How often have I said 'we need an FDR or an LBJ	sabrina 1	Jan 2014	#33
even FREAKING FDR himself couldn't do much with this Congress...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#61
Exactly!	ProSense	Jan 2014	#84
Did FDR have a Teaparty wing of the Republicans to deal with?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#62
FDR averaged one veto per week	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#63
Maybe Obama	ProSense	Jan 2014	#92
That's an incredibly useful statistic since Congress won't pass anything. (nt)	jeff47	Jan 2014	#94
Its as if they live in an alternate universe....	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#111
No shit. nt	Bobbie Jo	Jan 2014	#198
What has the Congress passed for him To Veto?	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#110
.	ProSense	Jan 2014	#160
I have to agree ProSense...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#162
also the democratic congress that fdr had were mostly southern right wingers	Doctor_J	Jan 2014	#189
And very soon Woo Me will show up with his requisite K&R.	tridim	Jan 2014	#67
I've seen this show a time or two.	Bobbie Jo	Jan 2014	#199
It hijacks the thread.	djean111	Jan 2014	#82
My intention was not to hijack the thread	Cali_Democrat	Jan 2014	#116
That could pretty much be a reply	Union Scribe	Jan 2014	#163
No what we NEED is that Congress to support the one we have...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#59
You mean they should go along with TPP, KeystoneXL, school corporatization, and "deficit reduction"?	Doctor_J	Jan 2014	#174
No I mean go along with raising the minimum wage...ending the pay gender gap...	VanillaRhapsody	Jan 2014	#177
Reagan managed to change the face of the US (for the worse) with a R minority.	El_Johns	Jan 2014	#55
When a presidents agenda mattered and congress wanted gov to work	uponit7771	Jan 2014	#56
More like: Congress gets what it wants done	El_Johns	Jan 2014	#102
Now, that's the truth.	Laelth	Jan 2014	#127
Yes, it is. And strange how so many seem to have forgotten that little fact.	El_Johns	Jan 2014	#180
When are we gonna admit we are fucked?	DocMac	Jan 2014	#22
They are admitting to being fucked. That's why they are pushing for Hillary.	L0oniX	Jan 2014	#101
The Long Con	BlueLuna743	Jan 2014	#35
"This is not reasonable compromise. It is barbary."...	ljm2002	Jan 2014	#36
K&R	DeSwiss	Jan 2014	#42
i give up on democrats	MFM008	Jan 2014	#60
One party, two faces.	woo me with science	Jan 2014	#120
No truer words.	jsr	Jan 2014	#68
we need to compromise and enact republican policies	frwrfpos	Jan 2014	#69
"The Democratic-controlled Senate had passed a bill with $400 million in annual food stamp cuts."	ProSense	Jan 2014	#70
Cuts also for farmers too in the farm bill	JCMach1	Jan 2014	#71
I hope the son's of bitches choke on that fucking wine.	lonestarnot	Jan 2014	#74
Here:	ProSense	Jan 2014	#75
I think it is a real fucking stretch to say Obama would be liberal if the Dems controlled Congress.	djean111	Jan 2014	#78
No Bi-Partisanship here	fredamae	Jan 2014	#79
The 1%'ers, wall street and big business	workinclasszero	Jan 2014	#80
K&R! It's sick savagery!	Enthusiast	Jan 2014	#81
"Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime." Aristotle	handmade34	Jan 2014	#85
MannyGoldstein	Diclotican	Jan 2014	#86
A lot of us agree entirely with you.	Jackpine Radical	Jan 2014	#126
Jackpine Radical	Diclotican	Jan 2014	#196
Elect Clinton ...problem solved.	L0oniX	Jan 2014	#99
Cacerolazo? I've got my stock pot and my wooden spoon	Taitertots	Jan 2014	#103
K&R Corruption, cronyism, criminality, and savagery.	woo me with science	Jan 2014	#119
Cut the corporate profits tax to 21-percent.	Octafish	Jan 2014	#121
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t	Laelth	Jan 2014	#122
And the beat goes on. Progressives Brace For Disappointment On Trade Policy.	totodeinhere	Jan 2014	#125
Recently From Robert Reich:	abelenkpe	Jan 2014	#129
I wonder if the apologists here know anyone	Jakes Progress	Jan 2014	#132
I seriously doubt it.	jsr	Jan 2014	#205
kick and recc	warrprayer	Jan 2014	#138
It is funny Manny, you post on this topic and get over a hundred recs	Rex	Jan 2014	#139
I think it's because	ProSense	Jan 2014	#145
I love it when my posts rub the right people the wrong way!	Rex	Jan 2014	#146
I loved your post.	ProSense	Jan 2014	#147
I love it when my posts pisses some off so much they have to copycat me!	Rex	Jan 2014	#148
Hey,	ProSense	Jan 2014	#149
...	Rex	Jan 2014	#150
LOL!	ProSense	Jan 2014	#151
Yes you often do assume things!	Rex	Jan 2014	#152
Hey,	ProSense	Jan 2014	#156
How F'in dare you!	obxhead	Jan 2014	#142
Change won't come from within.	blkmusclmachine	Jan 2014	#154
I like how you think	libodem	Jan 2014	#155
Kick. n/t	louslobbs	Jan 2014	#159
but it's BIPARTISAN cuts	Doctor_J	Jan 2014	#161
Three	ProSense	Jan 2014	#164
If only there were GOP programs the President could threaten...	Demo_Chris	Jan 2014	#169
Military, farm subsidies, oil company subsidies, ultralow taxes on the wealthiest...	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2014	#170
But Manny, how can this be?!?! The White House and Senate...	Demo_Chris	Jan 2014	#171
The Mighty GOP and their Iron-Clad Gerrymandered House Majority	AndyTiedye	Jan 2014	#175
Revenue bills require congress.	joshcryer	Jan 2014	#187
The same way they do. You BLOCK their bills...	Demo_Chris	Jan 2014	#193
And shut down government?	joshcryer	Jan 2014	#194
What bills?	jeff47	Jan 2014	#200
True, they would let it shut down.	joshcryer	Jan 2014	#201
I know it. Trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of budget items, and every single	GoneFishin	Jan 2014	#192
It's up to the voters.	fadedrose	Jan 2014	#176
The vampires are hungry.	moondust	Jan 2014	#191
so...which is the truth ?	NM_Birder	Jan 2014	#207
Ah,..austerity..	adavid	Jan 2014	#210
Creationism vs Darwinism	burfman	Feb 2014	#212
That's a very good point.	MannyGoldstein	Feb 2014	#213

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:58 PM

legcramp (288 posts)

1. You think tonight is bad

Wait until the SOTU after parties crank up tomorrow night.

I wonder how many shoulders will be thrown out from patting themselves on the back during that get together.

So... cuts to unemployment aid and food stamps

1. You think tonight is bad

2. Outright Savagery

73. +1 n/t

118. Stop pretending it's just Republicans.

124. They should borrow money from their parents to go to Business School

165. All they have to do is ask their parents for a loan!

172. Blame goes on both parties.

3. Please propose your alternative that the House would actually pass.

4. "I welcome their hatred"

7. So you want food stamps to be $0 for the next year. (nt)

8. We've tried it your way for 30 years

11. Oh, it has been a complete disaster.

12. We elect tough Liberals

13. Actually, yes one does negotiate with hostage takers, unless you want dead hostages

15. What was the outcome when Republicans shut down the government last year

37. Game, set, match. n/t

88. Not at all. See: Unemployment extension.

140. I agree that was total pwnage!

39. So why did Elizabeth Warren vote for the compromise bill

83. I hear...

87. What was the outcome when Republicans refused to extend unemployment?

131. At least with your way,

135. Yeah, because they didn't try to separate the food stamps part from the agricultural subsidies.

202. Sigh.

203. What an incredibly dumb response.

123. +1 n/t

130. "if people bothered to show up"

134. 20% turnout in primaries is "if people bothered to show up" territory.

178. When we Primary an Incumbent, We Usually Lose the Seat

181. And?

208. Every Loss makes us Weaker. Every Loss Forces Our Side to Compromise Even More

209. Yeah, just like every loss pushed the Republicans left.

211. Both Parties Move Right Every Time they Lose

183. +1

179. Half Right

188. There's a reason I included that parenthetical statement.

14. republicans control the house , are you saying some of them were tough liberals ?

46. Bulllllllllllllshit! "We" just sit around and bitch and spout winger memes...sounds like straight

141. BINGO!

204. The Tea Party is doing it your way right now.

17. And executive order can solve that problem. Bush sure had no problem using it.

19. An executive order to appropriate funds for food stamps and unemployment?

23. Tell it to Obama:

47. You are saying he should disregard the constitution? What constitutionally permissable

49. No, HE is saying it. I am saying 'don't just say it,

51. Yes, I am saying he is just threatening. He can do small things alone, but nothing

65. He will do what he legally can do

66. Obama cannot appropriate funds, only Congress can do that.......

90. He can declare an emergency just as if it was a NATURAL disaster rather than a manmade

95. He still can't appropriate funds, even for an actual natural disaster.

104. Well, I used to think they couldn't overturn the Constitution but now I know better. They

105. If you want to use that route, then you have to believe the NSA is fine.

107. I haven't seen you complain about the NSA. Maybe I'm mistaken but airc, you have been a

108. Well, you could bother to read my other reply to you in this thread - post 100. (nt)

114. The man ordered American citizens to be executed without due process,

185. My exact thought. Murder ok. Food for the needy? No can do, it's unconstitutional!

117. I had to laugh

133. +1

153. The Constitution only matters when it presents an obstacle to helping the people

168. Some things are yes or no, no in between . It is either unconstitutional or not. It is not

190. So where do extrajudicial executions of american citizens fall?

197. Granted, my point remains the same. Perhaps you have some flexibility in areas I'm less quick to

53. They know ... It's a common winger meme to I absolve congress of blame for

98. He can declare an emergency. If they can overturn the Constitution to spy on the American

115. "Haven't you argued also for the abandonment of the rule of law?"

89. Your proposal is utterly unconstitutional.

96. No my proposal, the President's proposal. Did you say 'Unconstitutional'??

100. You can't claim the Constitution is sacrosanct in the NSA case

158. Looks like he's going to do it. The phone meta program has now been declared unconstitutional so

64. Heres one......The house will not pass it......

136. Why does he have to come up with such proposals? Are you suggesting that the

137. If you believe it's possible to pass a better bill

144. I am not convinced that the WH is working very hard to save American jobs. In fact the TPP

5. When the people finally revolt, it will be stealth, not just riots, that will

6. That's why it's so important to GOTV 2014

9. And an FDR like the Dem Congress had. nt

10. There is no Presidential election in 2014

44. Only wingers on mixed boards have been claiming Obama has been acting outiside of

16. Well we had one for the first two years.