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A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:35 AM Jan 2014

The entirety of what Obama actually said after the applause for Cory:


(Extended cheers and applause.)

My fellow Americans -- my fellow Americans, men and women like Cory remind us that America has never come easy. Our freedom, our democracy, has never been easy. Sometimes we stumble; we make mistakes; we get frustrated or discouraged.

But for more than two hundred years, we have put those things aside and placed our collective shoulder to the wheel of progress: to create and build and expand the possibilities of individual achievement; to free other nations from tyranny and fear; to promote justice and fairness and equality under the law, so that the words set to paper by our founders are made real for every citizen.

The America we want for our kids -- a rising America where honest work is plentiful and communities are strong; where prosperity is widely shared and opportunity for all lets us go as far as our dreams and toil will take us -- none of it is easy. But if we work together; if we summon what is best in us, the way Cory summoned what is best in him, with our feet planted firmly in today but our eyes cast towards tomorrow, I know it's within our reach.

Believe it.

God bless you, and God bless the United States of America. (Cheers, applause.)
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The entirety of what Obama actually said after the applause for Cory: (Original Post) A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 OP
Poetry. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #1
and we got that piece of shit Tom Perkins claiming wealthy billionaires like him are the victims JI7 Jan 2014 #2
Ugly, reprehensible, political prop. joshcryer Jan 2014 #3
Mahalo A. Backstory.. Cha Jan 2014 #4
and then there's that! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #5
Yeah, don't facts bathed in Cha Jan 2014 #13
What's interesting is that they call him Mr. Obama rather than President Obama. nt longship Jan 2014 #7
Yeah I saw some of that too...which stands to reason since I think many seem just to VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #14
Hey longship.. I've read that Cha Jan 2014 #15
I didn't click through. longship Jan 2014 #19
No worries.. Cha Jan 2014 #21
They refer to him by title on first reference pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #18
The Protocol School of DC answers your question: El_Johns Jan 2014 #40
Thank you, Cha. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #9
You're welcome, A and thank Cha Jan 2014 #16
Thanks Cha. This should be its own OP. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #22
It is an OP from Heather Mc, SunSeeker.. with 5 replies.. Cha Jan 2014 #23
Yeah but your above comments and that NYTimes headline crystallize the point. nt SunSeeker Jan 2014 #24
I see your Cha Jan 2014 #25
where's the part where he explains why we are still there Skittles Jan 2014 #6
I just wanted to see what he actually said. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #8
I don't mind soldiers being honored Skittles Jan 2014 #10
I was actually naive enough to believe that Obama was lying A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2014 #11
thank you A-Schwazenegger Skittles Jan 2014 #12
then why would you deny this one his...how do YOU know if he didn't thoroughly enjoy it... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #17
That's not what I get from the OP, but hey fire away. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #20
Apparently a number of others did... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #29
LOL Ellipsis Jan 2014 #31
you really, REALLY don't get it Skittles Jan 2014 #26
No...what I am trying to tell you is...YOU really didn't get it... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #30
done here Skittles Jan 2014 #34
Yeah you are! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #35
Your comments make me so sad, really ... sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #38
My questions,too and also why someone Lars39 Jan 2014 #28
I'd guess he's a "special" special forces guy. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #32
There should still be a limit. Lars39 Jan 2014 #33
I had a friend who went four times. Ellipsis Jan 2014 #39
The Chinese miners still need protection RandiFan1290 Jan 2014 #27
Yes! loyalsister Jan 2014 #36
Iraq wasn't about 'our freedoms' nor was Afghanistan nor is Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #37

JI7

(89,249 posts)
2. and we got that piece of shit Tom Perkins claiming wealthy billionaires like him are the victims
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:46 AM
Jan 2014

in this country and compares himself to jews under Hitler .

Cha

(297,200 posts)
4. Mahalo A. Backstory..
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:29 AM
Jan 2014


"President and Soldier: 3 Meetings, and a Lesson in Resilience"

"WASHINGTON — Three times, mainly by chance and in very different circumstances, Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg has met President Obama..

Meeting No. 1 Normandy, France, was the site of the first interaction between Mr. Obama and Sergeant Remsburg, where they commemorated the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landing on June 6, 2009.
They were introduced near Omaha Beach in France in 2009, when Sergeant Remsburg was part of a select Army Ranger group chosen to re-enact a parachute drop for celebrations of the 65th anniversary of the D-Day landings in World War II. The second meeting came less than a year later at a military hospital outside Washington,
where Mr. Obama was stunned to see among the wounded troops from Afghanistan a familiar young man — now brain-damaged, a track of fresh stitches across his skull, and partly paralyzed.

The third time was two weeks ago in a private visit in Phoenix, where Sergeant Remsburg did something that neither Mr. Obama nor military doctors would once have predicted: he stood up and saluted his commander in chief."

snip//

"Former President George W. Bush and other commanders in chief paid many visits to the wounded, but Mr. Obama’s intersections with one warrior’s life-altering path are unusual. Aides could not name any other wounded service member whom Mr. Obama has met three times, nor any other who first stood before the commander in chief in battle-ready prime.


For Sergeant Remsburg, the meetings have been “very humbling,” he said in a phone interview last weekend. For Mr. Obama, the soldier has come to personify the challenges endured by more than 50,000 men and women wounded in the two wars of the last decade, many facing recoveries that “will last a lifetime,” as the president recently said."

the rest..
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/us/politics/obama-and-a-soldier-3-meetings-and-a-lesson-in-resilience.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

Heather Mac http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024405329

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
14. Yeah I saw some of that too...which stands to reason since I think many seem just to
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:19 AM
Jan 2014

despise govt in general...all govt..regardless.

Cha

(297,200 posts)
15. Hey longship.. I've read that
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:23 AM
Jan 2014

when they start out the article with "President".. like this one..

"WASHINGTON — Three times, mainly by chance and in very different circumstances, Sgt. First Class Cory Remsburg has met President Obama.." Then the article continues with "Mr" being used.

Course, that's all I have to go on. I read it on DU!

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. I didn't click through.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:38 AM
Jan 2014

My bad. I knew about that protocol. I should have looked before I leaped.


It's late and I have unfortunately been following the SOTU drinking game rules. (Not sure which ones at this point)


As always.

Cha

(297,200 posts)
21. No worries..
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 05:13 AM
Jan 2014

"... been following the SOTU drinking game rules. (Not sure which ones at this point&quot " Salud!






pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
18. They refer to him by title on first reference
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:27 AM
Jan 2014

That has been the predominant media style rule for many decades. Use the President's title on first reference; "Mr." is permissible in subsequent references.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
40. The Protocol School of DC answers your question:
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:13 AM
Jan 2014

How Should the Media Refer to The Current President?

In the media the journalists are referring to The President in the third person in a story ... so they will refer to him in various ways so who they are talking about is clear to the listener. You'll hear:

Barack Obama
President Obama
Obama
Mr. Obama

These are not forms of address ... for which there are rules. In direct address a president is addressed as

Mr. President

His given name or surname is not used in his presence

Listen to a White House news conference, and all the reporters address him as Mr. President.

White House staff refer to him as The President ... which makes sense since he is the only President to them! But on the evening news they may refer to several presidents ... the president of the United States ... the president of British Petroleum ... the president of a national association.

Sometimes you hear someone directly address the President of the United States as President Obama ... but that person is incorrect .... doesn't know the tradition ... and has probably just been listening to the evening news and thinks that is correct.

Whenever I hear that I write a note to the reporter. Not sure it does any good, but I feel better.
-- Robert Hickey

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Thanks Cha. This should be its own OP.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 05:16 AM
Jan 2014

So many folks here missed the point. It wasn't to glorify war, but just the opposite. It was to honor resilience and spotlight the terrible cost of war.

Cha

(297,200 posts)
23. It is an OP from Heather Mc, SunSeeker.. with 5 replies..
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 05:23 AM
Jan 2014

So, if want to go kick her thread now? I just gave it another kick..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024405329#top

It's ridiculous the way lies travel all the way around here and the facts are ignored by so many.

Cha

(297,200 posts)
25. I see your
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 05:50 AM
Jan 2014

point, Sun. I'll see what's happening tomorrow on this Poignant story that got ravaged by bullshit on DU.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
10. I don't mind soldiers being honored
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:04 AM
Jan 2014

I have sent care packages or letters monthly since 2005 but I really, REALLY would like to know why the hell we are still in Afghanistan, WHY we are still sending troops to be injured and killed for no reason, WHY we are wasting all that money - why wouldn't that be addressed in the SOTU? WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER A DECADE.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
11. I was actually naive enough to believe that Obama was lying
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:08 AM
Jan 2014

for political purposes when he said during the first campaign
that he was going to press the war in Afghanistan. Like you
I believe it is a hideous evil waste of life and limb and everything
else to stay in Afghanistan.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
17. then why would you deny this one his...how do YOU know if he didn't thoroughly enjoy it...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:25 AM
Jan 2014

the man was said to love the military...which he has every right to continue to feel. You would rather piss on his day for a chance to attack Obama...completely missing the point in the process...

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
30. No...what I am trying to tell you is...YOU really didn't get it...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jan 2014

you so so badly wanted to see your "narrative" so....that's what YOU saw...regardless that very very very damn few agree with you.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
28. My questions,too and also why someone
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:42 AM
Jan 2014

can actually be deployed over 2 or 3 times, let alone 10 times.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
32. I'd guess he's a "special" special forces guy.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:51 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2014, 10:59 PM - Edit history (1)

He went voluntarily.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
39. I had a friend who went four times.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jan 2014

The last time was a "special request" and he couldn't talk about it. He was one of those guys who was in Falusha (sp) wrapped in a head piece and garb ...before we went into Falusha "popping pumpkins" on rooftops... they are more at home away from home. I'm not saying I agree with the concept but it's what they do. It's their legal heroin.

RandiFan1290

(6,232 posts)
27. The Chinese miners still need protection
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:36 AM
Jan 2014

Can't expect China to use their $$ and troops to protect them.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
36. Yes!
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:54 PM
Jan 2014

There always seem to be some unnoticed lines that have a lot of meaning. He talked about privilege and mutual responsibility (citizenship) in ways I haven't heard often. Sort of like he was telling Reaganites what they're missing.


"Here in America our success should depend not on an accident of birth, but on the strength of our work ethic and the scope of our dreams."

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
37. Iraq wasn't about 'our freedoms' nor was Afghanistan nor is Yemen, Pakistan, Somalia
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

and wherever else we are droning innocent men, women and children.

When will we hear the truth. 'Our Freedoms' reminds me of Bush/Cheney.

Nor was Vietnam, forgot to add that tragic lie to the rest of the lies about war we are told.

So, what does 'American doesn't come easy mean'? That we have to keep on invading oil rich countries like Iraq and strategically situated to the oil fields, like Afghanistan etc?

Maybe if you just put all our resources into alternative energy we wouldn't need to control the world's oil supply so that Oil Cartels can become richer and richer.

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