Statement by Senator Warren on President Obama's State of the Union Address

[ProSense]

Statement by Senator Warren on President Obama's State of the Union Address

Washington, DC – United States Senator Elizabeth Warren today released the following statement in reaction to President Obama’s State of the Union address:

“President Obama laid out an encouraging plan for how we can move our country forward. The President showed he is ready to take action now to help level the playing field for hard-working families. Raising the minimum wage for federal contract workers and expanding access to early childhood education are important steps, and I applaud the president's leadership. Even so, we need to do more together to ensure that all of our kids have a chance at a quality, affordable education and real opportunities for success. I’m committed to working with my colleagues in the Senate to make the kinds of investments in education, research, and infrastructure that help us build a future – not just for some of us, but for all of us.”

http://www.warren.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=325

[SidDithers]

1. DU rec...nt

Sid

[MannyGoldstein]

2. "Encouraging"

The perfect word.

[JoePhilly]

3. Clearly she hated it.

Just have to read between the lines.

[BenzoDia]

6. lol. No kidding.

[ananda]

22. I didn't read it that way.

I read that Warren thinks that Obama could do more, but that
what he did tout was good.

She then said that they all need to work together to improve
this country and make life better for all Americans.

[Cryptoad]

25. Many read what they want to read.....

[TM99]

118. While true in some measure, there is a science to communication as well.

She used very specific works that within the context of the overall communication do convey that she has issues with this President.

She starts by stating it is an 'encouraging plan' and she 'applauds Obama's leadership.' She then uses a 'but' qualifier to give her actual communication which gives us her thoughts on what she feels is important different from the President and how she feels it needs to be accomplished.

"I like you a lot, BUT I am not in love with you"

"You are a really good employee, BUT I am sorry, we have to let you go."

So, while it was hardly a big disagreement, it was still not as rah-rah as many may wish to influence us in to believing.

[Iliyah]

47. "work together to improve this country, etc."

GOPers don't believe in working together. Rather its their way or no way attitude.

The GOP trolls are out in full force . . . .

[VanillaRhapsody]

78. You said it....the sheeps clothing is still in the closet even!

[caledesi]

116. That's a "dig" to the GOP (the do-nothing) congress. She is so clever! nt

[pnwmom]

41. No, you just have to do some projection.

She said what she said. What you see between the lines is a function of your own particular vision.

[JackRiddler]

52. "Encouraging" is in the text, not "between the lines."

It's the perfect word.

[pnwmom]

60. Someone else interpreted "encouraging" to mean she hated it.

It's not a perfect word if no one can agree on what it means.

[JackRiddler]

103. You have an issue with someone else.

Go bother them.

[pnwmom]

104. You first replied to my post. Were you trying to "bother" me? n/t

[demwing]

58. If you have to read between the lines

then it's anything but "clear" - no?

[JoePhilly]

75. Exactly.

[VanillaRhapsody]

79. Only for those who think EVERYTHING has between the lines...

[ProSense]

19. "I applaud the president's leadership."

Translation: He hates me. I so wanted that other job. Fuck!

About right?

[Progressive dog]

66. I think that is what they're saying

It's fortunate for me that that there are those who see into the blank space between the lines, and tell me what it says. The only part I'm not comfortable with is the part where the blank space always agrees with the reader.

[ProSense]

67. "Encouraging":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024408740

[phleshdef]

105. Elizabeth Warren has a really high opinion of President Obama. Deal with it.

[Number23]

106. Why should he? He gets so much attention (and recs) when he pretends otherwise

[phleshdef]

107. I know, I just like to rub it in.

[Cha]

4. Thank you!

[Demo_Chris]

5. Doesn't she have some food stamps to cut? Why would anyone care...

What the freshman (and hopefully one-term) Senator has to say?

[pampango]

7. I believe that is the first outright blast leveled at Sen. Warren that I have seen here.

There should be a prize.

[Demo_Chris]

9. She voted to cut food stamps, so to hell with her. nt

[pampango]

13. As did Sen. Sanders. If we send him to hell, too, we don't have much left. n/t

[Demo_Chris]

14. Didn't have much to begin with. nt

[UCmeNdc]

16. All of the GOP voted to cut food stamps!

[pampango]

17. Not having much is better than not having anything. If we expect 100% loyalty to a 'party line',

we will lose folks who will be with us 90% of the time. Not sure that's a great long term strategy.

[TheMathieu]

30. It hasn't worked very well for the Republicans.

We need to fight like hell to make sure those sentiments are silenced in our party.

With all the fissures in the GOP now, the Democrats have strength in unity.

[TBF]

31. "Make sure those sentiments are silenced in our party"

[bobduca]

34. naturally... and the best place to start that fight is at DU on Wed Jan 29, 2014, 06:54 AM!

Rise O Ye zombie socks and be heard! SILENCE THOSE SENTIMENTS!

[TBF]

36. ...

[VanillaRhapsody]

86. said the pot calling the kettle black!

[bobduca]

95. Struck too close to home for you?

remember i wasn't replying to you... or was I?

Feel free to check my track record on outing mirt-worthy trolls, sunshine.

[VanillaRhapsody]

96. not for me....

and my name is Vanilla....you must be referring to someone named sunshine...

[bobduca]

97. "sunshine" as in a term of endearment.

[VanillaRhapsody]

108. I didn't find it endearing.....

and I am not feeling it!

[SidDithers]

119. ROFL...

"Rise O Ye zombie socks"



Sid

[cyberswede]

33. Which sentiments?

We need to fight like hell to make sure those sentiments are silenced in our party.

I'm late to the thread...just wondered which sentiments you're referring to.

[Demo_Chris]

32. I expect 100% loyalty to the party line and the voters...

Some here are content with anything so long as a Democrat did it. That, to them, is a victory. We sent Obama to the White House with s majority in the House and a supermajority in the Senate, yet we were told that wasn't nearly enough to pass anything or advance a liberal agenda in Washington. Apparently we need all three branches at 100% before we can move even one tiny step to the left.

Lacking that there is nothing for it but to leap to the right on every issue. The Democratic controlled Senate and White House are PASSING cuts to food stamps and unemployment, they merrily making the Bush tax cuts permanent, and ramming through Corporatist insurance mandates and free trade, and this is considered the best we can do. Fuck that.

If Warren wants to vote like a Republican than it's time for her to go home.

[geek tragedy]

39. I agree. Let's start by purging the gun-humpers nt

[Demo_Chris]

83. No, let's start by taking care of the poor and sick and desperate...

Go from there. If we cannot even do that little then none of it matters anyway. We truly will all be in it alone.

[geek tragedy]

85. yeah, because getting rid of Elizabeth Warren is the way to go about that

said the RNC.

[Demo_Chris]

90. She voted to CUT food to desperate people...

People who post here. You want me to blow that off? These people need our help and Warren just voted to let them starve.

[geek tragedy]

93. "Warren just voted to let them starve." Maybe this line of crap works on your friends

at ar15.com, but those with two brain cells to rub together aren't buying it.

[quakerboy]

120. Can you give us some examples

of those who voted opposite warren on this issue? Who would you support?

[VanillaRhapsody]

87. so you are waiting for Republicans to "do something"?

good luck!!!

[VanillaRhapsody]

84. just as expected....Under the Bus with you Elizabeth Warren!!!

its sooooooo predictable and boring now!

Will we start seeing the Elizabeth Warren 2016 sig lines disappear now too?

[Demo_Chris]

114. It is, sadly, all too predictable...

We simply have no one interested in fighting for liberals. I cannot really blame her, if she actually did want to fight for the people she would be going it alone. That said, while it is understandable, that does not mean that she deserves our tolerance or support. We either hold our representatives accountable or we might as well give up.

[VanillaRhapsody]

115. and JUST as expected....

here we go....

Perhaps you should think about what it means when there is NO ONE left that wants to run on what YOU think is the most important issues...

It might say more about you than it does about Ms Warren or Mr Sanders...

[Nanjing to Seoul]

8. Ummm. . .is this the sane Elizabeth Warren I know?

Buddy, rethink your statements a little.

[Demo_Chris]

10. You only thought you knew her. She just voted to slash food stamps. nt

[TBF]

35. Nope, that's not going to cut it -

you're going to have to give a little more detail. For example: Rubio, Cornyn, and Cruz voted AGAINST this bill. That tells me that it is a good clean bill that the smarter dems knew they could pass and do the least amount of damage. As opposed to the cray cray Repugs who would've slashed a whole lot more if given free reign.

I am willing to support either Hillary or Elizabeth as the candidate down the road (there are others as well).

So the divisive tactics really aren't necessary ...

[AtheistCrusader]

43. OR, she voted to keep them from being cut to ZERO DOLLARS.

It's all a matter of perspective.

[Demo_Chris]

74. That was never a danger. nt

[VanillaRhapsody]

88. right because Republicans would NEVER do that huh?

you are sure of it!

[Demo_Chris]

91. They would cease to exist as a party if they did. n

[VanillaRhapsody]

94. they have the teaparty and they still exist...

[Demo_Chris]

98. I will leave you to think this though on your own...

In any case, even accidentally ending food stamps to 70 million or so people would create a crisis so outrageous that even the most right wing donors would be horrified. It would unite the entire world against extremists of this type.

[VanillaRhapsody]

99. Well then lets hope they give it a try shall we...

it is the ultimate conclusion of their stated philosophy is it not?

[Demo_Chris]

100. It is. n

[LanternWaste]

102. It would appear you have much more faith in your powers of prophecy than do others...

It would appear you have much more faith in your powers of prophecy than do others...

[treestar]

81. When Obama does that sort of thing, it's caving

Why isn't it here?

Oh, I know, that does not fit the agenda of using her to divide Democrats.

[grantcart]

109. Well its official, we now have WDS

Warren Derangement Syndrome.


Its best not to engage those that suffer from it, contributing to the public humiliation of someone else is a negative karma event.

[stevenleser]

11. While I think your criticism is unfair, it illustrates an important point...

... if you intend to be the progressive riding in on a white horse, no deviation from 100% pure will be tolerated.

In politics, where horse-trading is part of the deal, that is an unattainable standard.

[Demo_Chris]

12. The conclusion is not, "Don't bother". nt

[stevenleser]

15. If the intent is to be the progressive riding in on a white horse, it most definitely is.

You cannot make the folks who were ardent Nader or Kucinich fans happy and be a viable politician. So, yes, the conclusion is "don't bother"

[Demo_Chris]

29. Gotcha, your goal is to lose, but lose slower...

I want better. I can accept compromise and even losing, when we also win.

[geek tragedy]

51. There's a word for people who hate Elizabeth Warren and want her to lose to a

Republican in 2018, and who favor repealing the Affordable Care Act while humping their guns and peddling misogyny.

They're called Republicans, and you quite frankly sound like nothing more than a Republican trying to repackage his agenda with a fake leftwing ribbon.

[redqueen]

46. Hey now. I'm an ardent Kucinich fan who also knows how politics works.

Some of us learn from history and the experience of others, and have no need to repeat their mistakes.

[stevenleser]

68. I'm a fan too, but the distinction I was making by using the term ardent was liking him so much

you believe that everything about him was the model for how a progressive politician should be.

It's great if you have all the right positions and say all the right things. If you can't move the agenda, you're right but ineffective.

[VanillaRhapsody]

89. and Kucinich can never be elected President....

but lets just put all our support behind one of those....makes PERFECT sense!

[geek tragedy]

28. "the freshman (and hopefully one-term) Senator " yeah totally not a troll here folks nt

[ProSense]

42. Yeah, WTF? n/t

[geek tragedy]

50. same person who bashes the pope as being like Hitler for being misogynistic, but . . .

supports the right of men to shoot prostitutes if they refuse to have sex:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022957451#post138

In this case, the law protected someone from being robbed by a prostitute. If that were all this law did it would be silly, but that's not the purpose. It was written to protect someone like me -- or, rather, to allow someone like me to protect myself.

views of women as prey animals with mens' proper role as predators of women:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1018&pid=386327

Since you clearly need actual help allow me to advise you. I will be blunt:

Alpha the hell up.

Forget cuddling and sensitivity, forget listening and being their best girlfriend ever, forget everything you learned as a boy about what women want, and for god's sake don't listen to the advice of any females. If I were to guess you are probably a NICE guy who cares a great deal about other people. More, I suspect that to you women are special magical creatures deserving of respect and consideration and pursuit -- you probably believe that you aren't good enough for them. Hell, your post says as much.

Wipe that BS out of your mind right now. You're smart, which means you probably tried to figure all this stuff out logically, based on the information you have been given all your life, and when it doesn't work you assume the problem is you. It's not. The problem isn't YOU, it's with the information you have been given. As they say, garbage in garbage out.

Confidence with women, like anything in life, just takes a little practice. Fortunately there are quite a few women out there to practice on. So turn on your brain and apply it to the problem. Instead of trying to do what everyone says you are supposed to do, instead do what WORKS -- in your case that would be the opposite of what hasn't worked thus far. Talk to every attractive woman you see. Say hello, ask them out to coffee, offer them a fifty for a blow job. Whatever. Go ahead and fuck up, it's okay -- there are a hundred million more of them so who the hell cares. Stop giving a damn what they think. Stop CARING so damn much, stop liking them and worshipping them. Fuck that, if they want to be treated well they can damn well earn it. I

f you are having trouble finding the confidence to get started, that's easy to fix too. PRETEND. You think Brad Pitt is really as "cool" as he seems in the movies? You think Tom Cruise really does the impossible? Hell no. It's called acting. So the next time you're feeling nervous ACT like one of these guys. Ask yourself how James Bond would ask out this woman, and do that. Believe it or not, that's how you build successful habits. And for Cthuhlu's sake don't fall in love with the first chick that you win. You're a wolf, a predator, so keep hunting.
Anyway, good hunting my friend.

overtly sexist taunts towards women who seek equality:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3737051

Where Dr. King climbed to the mountaintop, showed us the promised land, and invited us to enter, the modern feminist one so often sees today has no vision, no promised land, and offers only rejection and (often misplaced and incoherent) self-righteous anger. She is Fred Phelps in a pants-suit.

It's not appealing and uninspiring. It does not invite participation or discussion. So if 80% of the public at large reject her and those like her, it's no wonder -- she rejected them first.

And, of course, favors repealing Obamacare:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3695251

Our party should be the one trying to repeal this thing...

Seriously, this is ludicrous. I can think of no better way to drive these people to the GOP.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2163036

Within a decade Obamacare will be viewed as a curse

And for those who understand it, it already is.

[cinnabonbon]

55. ...

Wow. That explains a lot.

[geek tragedy]

56. dkf was less obvious nt

[cinnabonbon]

57. yeah no kidding. nt

[mstinamotorcity2]

72. Demo Chris is tiny tunes.

don't get upset over factless and baseless rhetoric. Remember intelligence doesn't always lie in what you think you know. Sometimes its when you know what to ask. Revelations. People that live under bridges must come out sometime. He just hasn't run into the right DUer.

[noiretextatique]

73. Several TOS violations

when you alert, make sure you check that box.

[geek tragedy]

82. they've always gotten away with it, pretending to be a leftist

is almost a carte blanche to say that kind of crap. the ar15.com crowd gets away with it all the time

[noiretextatique]

111. we got rid of a bunch of zimmerman apologists with TOS

i will keep my eye on this one.

[SidDithers]

48. +1...nt

Sid

[LanternWaste]

101. I'd imagine because they may hold different opinions than you

"Why would anyone care..."

I'd imagine because they may hold different opinions than you, but I'm certain you'll rationalize your own premise as to why that may be...

[JDPriestly]

113. Do you know anything at all about Senator Warren?

http://www.warren.senate.gov/

[MineralMan]

18. Well, I guess she saw a different SOTU than some people seem to have seen.

Senator Warren has the same goals to improve the lot of Americans as President Obama. That's clear.

[1StrongBlackMan]

21. No ...

I think we all saw the same speech ... It's just she (along with other elected officials) actually have to work within certain realities; whereas, those typing on the internets ... not so much.

[albino65]

24. Huzzah, huzzah

That is the truth of it all in a nutshell.

[MineralMan]

38. Well, that's certainly true enough.

Our legislators are always having to balance getting something done against their ideals. It's a tough job sometimes. It seems as though some folks don't understand that insisting on getting exactly what you want, no matter what, often leads to getting something very far from what you want.

Politics in a democratic republic are often complex.

[1StrongBlackMan]

61. I would go further ...

It seems as though some folks don't understand that insisting on getting exactly what you want, no matter what, often leads to getting something very far from what you want.

and suggest that they understand that VERY well ... they live it every day of their lives.

If that offends some ... Oh well!

[MineralMan]

62. Well...you may have a point, there.

I don't know for sure. I try to assume that people mean well.

[1StrongBlackMan]

63. Honestly ...

I do, as well.

But that assumption is disabused here ... constantly, when people ignore their daily reality, to apply an alternate reality in order to support their out-rage/critiques.

I tire, easily, these days.

[MineralMan]

64. I've just decided to stay out of threads that are

little more than administration bashing exercises. I don't have the time for it, nor the energy. It's easy enough to do, really. I browse DU by looking at the GD post list. I've been here long enough to know which threads to avoid if I don't want to bang my head on my keyboard constantly.

I used to read them, but no longer. It's a waste of my time.

GOTV 2014 and Beyond!

[1StrongBlackMan]

65. Good Approach to life at DU ...

maybe I should adopt it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

92. its all working so well for the Teaparty!

that purity problem is tearing their party apart!

[redqueen]

53. +1,000,000,000,000,000

[pampango]

26. Go ahead and cross the street Sen. Warren. Don't pay any attention to that approaching bus.

Liberals have got your back.

[MineralMan]

40. It's clear to me that there is no candidate who will

satisfy some. Perhaps those for whom that is true should run for the office themselves. That way, they could always vote for their ideals, no matter what the consequences. I do not see a rush to file candidacies, though.

Elizabeth Warren is doing a terrific job as a freshman Senator. Those who would nitpick her voted and reject her for making sure that a workable Farm Bill passes should all go file their candidacy for the Senate at their earliest opportunity. They won't, and Elizabeth Warren will continue to be an outstanding progressive Senator.

The bus appears to be driverless, sometimes.

[msanthrope]

20. Fuck!!!! nt

[SidDithers]

49. Hehe..

Sid

[berni_mccoy]

70. LOL, that was my immediate response...

[Jamaal510]

71. ROFLMAO

[SunSeeker]

117. LOL! Perfect. nt

[TheMathieu]

23. This is the reaction all on the left should have had.

If they didn't, they should take a long introspective look and maybe they'll realize they're part of the problem and not the solution.

[noiretextatique]

77. utter bullshit: still false equivalence, no matter how many times it is said

the RIGHT is the big, fat pink elephant in this country. even the third wayer's should grasp that by now. did the left shutdown the government? did the left vow to defeat anything Obama proposes? is the left funding the likes of Ted Cruz and other crazy baggers around the country? the left is not the problem.

[whatchamacallit]

27. Therefore...

[Iliyah]

37. K&R

The Democratic Party is diverse. Agree to disagree, but in most instances we do tend to join together and if Virginia is the template for the upcoming 2014 elections, Dems will prevail and hopefully can repair the economy by keeping and creating jobs here in the USA, raising minimum wage, more people covered by healthcare, better education, restoring SNAP and other cuts that right now must be compromised because the other party refuse to work with the American people.

Immigration reform, gun control and ending conflicts while bringing our men and women home with the security of jobs and health and mental care.

[JEB]

44. I am so very thrilled to be suffering less damage

than we might have been had Mittens been elected. Now that is a rallying cry.

[zappaman]

45. Read it again.

It's code.

“PresIdent ObaMa laid out an encouraging Plan for how wE cAn move our Country forward. The President sHowed he is ready to take action now to help level the playing field for hard-working families. Raising the minimum wage for federal contract workers and expanding access to early childhood education are important steps, and I applaud the president's leadership. Even so, we need to do more together to ensure that all of our kids have a chance at a quality, affordable education and real opportunities for success. I’m committed to working with my colleagues in the Senate to make the kinds of investments in education, research, and infrastructure that help us build a future – not just for some of us, but for all of us.”

[JNelson6563]

54. lol

[Iliyah]

59. LOL - clever!

Well since the GOPers are gaining stream on the "doomsday" scenario again.

[Cali_Democrat]

69. hahahahahaha

[VanillaRhapsody]

76. Rut Roh!

there's a contingency known hereabouts...that will certainly HATE this...

Will they now throw Ms Warren under the bus too????

[treestar]

80. Another sellout to the rich

that corporatist! What next, joining the Democratic Party? Oh, right.

[frwrfpos]

110. rec

I hope Obama pushes hard for raising the minimum wage for all Americans. Warren seems to want to help push the narrative in the right direction. Now time for action.

[JDPriestly]

112. K&R. Senator Warren speaks for me.

I loved Obama's speech.