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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:53 PM Jan 2014

Unarmed Man Shot And Killed By Houston Cop For Wearing A Hoodie While Black



Jordan Baker, a 26-year-old Houston Community College student and father, “took his last breath in a trash-strewn alley behind a Northwest Houston strip center” on Thursday, January 16, all because he was a black man wearing a hoodie.

Houston police officer J Castro, an 11-year veteran who was moonlighting as a security guard for the strip mall that night, was on the lookout for hoodie-wearing armed robbery suspects. Castro says Baker, who was unarmed, matched the description and he shot and killed him as a result.

The police version of events, as reported by the local ABC affiliate, follows the predictable “he wasn’t cooperating and the cop was scared for his life” script:

According to police reports, an off-duty officer working security at the strip center, which is at the intersection of Antoine Drive and West Little York Road, Thursday night when he saw Jordan Baker riding his bike through the parking lot and peeking into businesses. When the officer asked Baker for an I.D., he said there was a scuffle, and a footchase, with the officer finally cornering Baker in the alley. The officer told investigators Baker charged toward him, and that’s when he fired his gun.


In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, before Baker was even named as the victim, police falsely told reporters that their officer had killed the man behind the robberies.

http://raniakhalek.com/2014/01/26/unarmed-man-shot-and-killed-by-houston-cop-for-wearing-a-hoodie-while-black/

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Unarmed Man Shot And Killed By Houston Cop For Wearing A Hoodie While Black (Original Post) MrScorpio Jan 2014 OP
It'll be interesting to see what the results... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #1
There was a day when I would not think for a minute defacto7 Jan 2014 #7
Less naivety Lost_Count Jan 2014 #12
Why bother investigating? The pigs are always right. Th1onein Jan 2014 #10
Take a deep breath and count to 10... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #13
Because The Cops Are So Honest otohara Jan 2014 #20
That's usually waiting for the internal investigation to invariably clear the cop... MrScorpio Jan 2014 #29
Typical right wing ploy: Personal attack Th1onein Jan 2014 #30
Quite the little angerball... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #36
AND YET ANOTHER PERSONAL ATTACK Th1onein Feb 2014 #37
Ironic post is ironic... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #39
the last sentence so racist rbrnmw Feb 2014 #41
I read it as school bus, kids being mean on the school bus. But then I had a kid on school bus other uppityperson Feb 2014 #45
The fact that you see it that way... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #46
why are you getting into repeated fights here when an unarmed man was shot by police? CreekDog Feb 2014 #50
In the real world there is nothing controversial.. Lost_Count Feb 2014 #53
when it comes to police, you need more information, but Philip Seymour Hoffman you didn't CreekDog Feb 2014 #54
Off to Ignore wth you! Th1onein Feb 2014 #42
The 60's called. They want their lame-ass "pigs" reference back. 11 Bravo Jan 2014 #26
Pigs they were, pigs they still are. Th1onein Jan 2014 #31
60's to the 2010's: yo! we were right about just about eveything! Warren Stupidity Feb 2014 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #51
In my youth in Houston the victim would've been"armed" TexasProgresive Jan 2014 #11
The old 'emotion' thing eh? Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #22
Glad to help... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #24
Welcome to DU CreekDog Feb 2014 #55
"...React on...emotion and biases"? Heidi Feb 2014 #49
These police are out of control quinnox Jan 2014 #2
Until there are real consequences like Public Juries, nothing will happen. glinda Jan 2014 #3
I'm starting to wonder Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #4
Should burn them or some poor soul will buy them and get shot themselves. nm rhett o rick Jan 2014 #5
Unbelievable. Faryn Balyncd Jan 2014 #6
If the cop was working as a security guard then how could Baker know he was a cop? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #8
Because cops here are allowed to wear their uniforms when working as "security guards." ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #14
I didn't know that. I also thought that cops were not allowed to 'moonlight'. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #17
Anyone can be a cop here in Houston. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #18
They get paid cash every night doing security at the nightclubs down here Ash_F Feb 2014 #48
Peeking into businesses while black = "armed robbery suspect"; while white = "windowshopping" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #9
SMH Mr Dixon Jan 2014 #15
Yay, Cops! Iggo Jan 2014 #16
Rescind the 2nd amendment, Now!!!! PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #19
What does that have to do with this? Lost_Count Jan 2014 #25
rec frwrfpos Jan 2014 #21
Houston cops even killed one of Poppy's friends. Octafish Jan 2014 #23
I wore a hoodie today in the rain in Florida HockeyMom Jan 2014 #27
Another difference: The men suspected of robbery were not old and white. Exciting Trip Feb 2014 #47
And a recent report claims an American is 39 time more likely to be murdered by the indepat Jan 2014 #28
Damn. This needs it's own thread. Th1onein Jan 2014 #32
Damn. nt cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #33
Who can protect anyone from the police? n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2014 #43
There are too many cases like this cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #34
Living while black is always a threat to racists malaise Jan 2014 #35
to the victim and family I'm so sorry rbrnmw Feb 2014 #38
Suspension with pay damnedifIknow Feb 2014 #44
Third incident with Houston PD? Bad Thoughts Feb 2014 #52
 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
1. It'll be interesting to see what the results...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jan 2014

... Of an investigation bring so people can do something besides react on their emotion and biases (whatever they may be.)

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. There was a day when I would not think for a minute
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:39 AM
Jan 2014

that your comment was naive. At best, they're the words of an optimist. If your optimism brings about a change in the system that matches that optimism, it would be a good thing.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
10. Why bother investigating? The pigs are always right.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:01 AM
Jan 2014

Why aren't YOU tired of seeing them kill innocents? That's my question.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
13. Take a deep breath and count to 10...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:25 AM
Jan 2014

While you have an apparent predisposition, I tend to wait to get information so as to make an informed decision.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
20. Because The Cops Are So Honest
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:16 PM
Jan 2014

when it comes to black males in hoodies.

Shit in some states the Police don't even arrest men who shoot black males.


MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
29. That's usually waiting for the internal investigation to invariably clear the cop...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jan 2014

By the way, you don't have to be armed for the cop to be in fear of his or her life as an excuse to gun you down.

They just hope that the shooting doesn't inconveniently end up on videotape, where the cop's story could come under closer scrutiny.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
30. Typical right wing ploy: Personal attack
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 05:20 AM
Jan 2014

Look, we've seen this again and again. When are you going to get it? They don't care. They don't investigate and if they do anything at all, the cop gets off.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
36. Quite the little angerball...
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:15 AM
Jan 2014

... for anyone that doesn't march in lockstep with you I see...

Really? Even looking forward to further investigation is alignment with the "pigs?"

You could benefit from some self reflection....

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
39. Ironic post is ironic...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 10:57 PM
Feb 2014

As you do the internet equivalent of screaming at me... for calling you out as an angerball...

A few days later too I might add... Welcome to February!

Also, who are "you guys"? People who believe in due process? Facts over emotion? People who were mean to you on the bus?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
45. I read it as school bus, kids being mean on the school bus. But then I had a kid on school bus other
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:54 AM
Feb 2014

others were mean to.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
46. The fact that you see it that way...
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:01 AM
Feb 2014

... says a lot about you and not much about me.

Additionally, it's probably not what you think it is.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
50. why are you getting into repeated fights here when an unarmed man was shot by police?
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:33 PM
Feb 2014

what is the big controversy here for us?

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
53. In the real world there is nothing controversial..
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:49 PM
Feb 2014

... About looking forward to further information.

The big complaint seems to come from the fact that some don't make the same assumptions.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
54. when it comes to police, you need more information, but Philip Seymour Hoffman you didn't
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 04:13 PM
Feb 2014


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4432595

Lost_Count This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide
34. Drug user uses drugs...
Shocking....

Just kidding... Fuck him...
A Jury voted 4-2 to hide this post on Sun Feb 2, 2014, 03:20 PM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
26. The 60's called. They want their lame-ass "pigs" reference back.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

There are good cops and there are WAY too many corrupt shitheads who should never be allowed to wear a badge.
But tedious references to all police officers as "pigs" passed their shelf life a couple of decades ago.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
31. Pigs they were, pigs they still are.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 05:22 AM
Jan 2014

And, really, we could all do with a little 60's ideology nowadays.

Response to 11 Bravo (Reply #26)

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
11. In my youth in Houston the victim would've been"armed"
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:12 AM
Jan 2014

with a "throw down" gun keep in an ankle holster by the cop or one of the investigating cops. Abuse of power by a few cops taints the whole force. To bad, the good should police their own.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
49. "...React on...emotion and biases"?
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:56 AM
Feb 2014

You mean like cops, based on their emotions and biases, killing innocent young black men?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. These police are out of control
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jan 2014

that is tragic. They are making up shit and trying to cover their asses.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
8. If the cop was working as a security guard then how could Baker know he was a cop?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:01 AM
Jan 2014

Maybe he thought he was going to be attacked by some lunatic with a gun?

Going by past history, whatever lies the cop tells will be believed. Unless there is a witness.

Shameful that a person cannot feel safe on the streets of this country if they are a minority.

Stop and Frisk despite being declared unconstitutional is still going on. So long as there are no consequences for these murders they will continue.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
14. Because cops here are allowed to wear their uniforms when working as "security guards."
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:13 AM
Jan 2014

Sick, isn't it?

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. I didn't know that. I also thought that cops were not allowed to 'moonlight'.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jan 2014

But I guess they are. Great for private corporations, they get to use cops to protect themselves wearing the uniforms the tax payers pay for.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
18. Anyone can be a cop here in Houston.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:25 PM
Jan 2014

Most of them moonlight because the job doesn't pay well. They can also carry their own guns. I've seen SD's with pearl-handled Colts.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
9. Peeking into businesses while black = "armed robbery suspect"; while white = "windowshopping"
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:47 AM
Jan 2014

For a man who was killed while doing nothing wrong, there's remarkably little coverage of this.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
15. SMH
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:49 AM
Jan 2014

The public be like “This happens way too often, I wonder if this has been going on prior to the internet?” Duh! This is nothing new. The more it happens the less outraged people will be, we are being conditioned to excepting this madness……SMH

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
25. What does that have to do with this?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:58 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

... or are you saying that law enforcement shouldn't have access to weapons either?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
23. Houston cops even killed one of Poppy's friends.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:54 PM
Jan 2014

What happened to Mr. Baker seems like cold blooded murder. Looking for a robbery suspect? So, why shoot him dead?

The tragedy brings up the Houston Police Department's cold blooded killing of Roland Carnaby, a very well connected friend of George Herbert Walker Bush. The guy was pulled over, flashed CIA credentials and hopped in his SUV, leading the police on a high speed chase. He stopped the car and started to get out of the car. The poor guy never had a chance to explain why, as they opened up on him. "We thought he had a gun."






 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
27. I wore a hoodie today in the rain in Florida
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:05 PM
Jan 2014

Difference? I am am an old, white woman and nobody considered me a threat by what I wear, or by my race, or age. No, we are not all equal.

 

Exciting Trip

(52 posts)
47. Another difference: The men suspected of robbery were not old and white.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:14 AM
Feb 2014

Read the article. Let's place the race card less often.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
28. And a recent report claims an American is 39 time more likely to be murdered by the
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jan 2014

police than by an al-Que-da-type terraist.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
34. There are too many cases like this
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 05:40 AM
Jan 2014

I wonder how long it will take before the cop gets a paid leave as a slap on the wrist.

Bad Thoughts

(2,522 posts)
52. Third incident with Houston PD?
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:41 PM
Feb 2014

The two African-American dance instructors from Oklahoma arrested for "trafficking" a white teenager?

A man arrested and harrassed for giving a few dimes to a homeless man?

Now this?

What's wrong in Houston?

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