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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYT Op by David Bonier says it well: Obama’s Free-Trade Conundrum
WASHINGTON IN his State of the Union address on Tuesday, President Obama focused on reversing the growth of economic inequality in the United States and restoring the American dream. At the same time, he also announced his support for fast track authority that would limit Congresss role in determining the content of trade agreements.
The presidents call follows on legislation introduced earlier this month to grant him fast-track authority as a way of forcing Congress to speed up its consideration of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a 12-nation pact with Latin American and Asian nations.
But Mr. Obamas desire for fast-track authority on the T.P.P. and other agreements clashes with another priority in his speech: reducing income inequality.
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At Naftas core and proposed for the T.P.P. are investor rights and privileges that eliminate many of the risks that make firms think twice about moving production to low-wage countries. Today, goods once made here are being produced in Mexico and exported here for sale. Indeed, American manufacturing exports to Mexico and Canada grew at less than half the rate after Nafta than in the years before it.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/30/opinion/obamas-free-trade-conundrum.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0
this is a long piece by Bonior, and well worth reading for the data and his informed opinion.
jsr
(7,712 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)dsc
(52,161 posts)I think it would be great if he did.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)From Bonior's op-ed:
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The result is downward pressure on middle-class wages as manufacturing workers are forced to compete with imports made by poorly paid workers abroad. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, nearly two out of every three displaced manufacturing workers who were rehired in 2012 saw wage reductions, most losing more than 20 percent.
What no one knows yet is what the TPP will look like or even if it will be approved by Congress. Yes the trade deficit has ballooned and manufacturing jobs were lost. Still, since Obama took office, manufacturing gained jobs for the first time since 1997 and he's also working to address trade deficits.
U.S. Trade Deficit Hits Lowest Level in 4 Years
http://business.time.com/2014/01/07/u-s-trade-deficit-at-lowest-in-4-years/
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/international/trade/tradnewsrelease.htm
The structure of the TPP will matter. If it's a horrible as the speculation, it will destroy jobs. If it's not, then it will help the economy. Can you envision a good trade deal?
Dean Baker, who is critical of the TPP, can:
There are some items on President Obama's agenda that push in the wrong direction, most notably his plans for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). This is wrongly billed as a "free-trade" agreement. In reality it has very little to do with free trade.
The TPP is about imposing a regulatory structure that will give corporations more power over the political process. It will make effective health, safety, and environmental regulation more difficult. It may also shield the financial sector from efforts to rein in the sort of abuses that led to the financial crisis. And, it will make drugs more expensive. The TPP is about redistributing income upward; it has no place on a serious inequality agenda.
It is possible to envision a trade agreement that would reduce inequality. If a deal focused on opening the doors to more foreign doctors and other highly paid professionals, it would lead to lower incomes for many in the top one percent and lower cost health care, legal services, and other serviced provided this overpaid group. We could also open the door to low-cost generic drugs, saving tens of billions of dollars annually on prescription medicine.
Trade agreements can also be an avenue for reducing our chronic trade deficit. If we used a deal to negotiate a drop in the value of the dollar against the currencies of our trading partners, it could move us toward balanced trade. If we were to eliminate the trade deficit completely, it would directly create more than 4 million jobs, the bulk of which would be relatively high-paying manufacturing jobs. Adding in the indirect jobs created from these workers' spending, the increase in employment would be over 6 million, getting us most of the way back to full employment.
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dean-baker/53892/president-obamas-inequality-story
cali
(114,904 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)I look forward to many threads about the minimum wage, unemployment benefits and other issues that aren't hijacked by: What's the point...TPP.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"The basic premise of these 'free trade' scams is horrible"
...saying that you would oppose it if the proposal met the following criteria:
Trade agreements can also be an avenue for reducing our chronic trade deficit. If we used a deal to negotiate a drop in the value of the dollar against the currencies of our trading partners, it could move us toward balanced trade. If we were to eliminate the trade deficit completely, it would directly create more than 4 million jobs, the bulk of which would be relatively high-paying manufacturing jobs. Adding in the indirect jobs created from these workers' spending, the increase in employment would be over 6 million, getting us most of the way back to full employment.
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/dean-baker/53892/president-obamas-inequality-story
Yes or no?
cali
(114,904 posts)and baker has some very harsh word for Obama's little pet trade projects.
Obama has proposed nothing like what Baker describes and YOU know that. As for the corporate pigs he's appointed at USTR, that says quite a bit about our corporate President.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Would you support it if he did?
cali
(114,904 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Yes it is certainly possible to utilize trade policies to encourage raising standards elsewhere. But that is NOT what these package deals like NAFTA, TPP and Most Favored Nation status for China. They are aboput undermining standards.
My suggested alternative?
Trade policy is actually very specific. It focuses on adjusting the terms of trade between nations regarding things like quotas, tariffs and other considerations related to specific products.
That is what they should focus on. They should NOT dictate national laws and policies and make them subservient to the desires of the Big Money Class.
And they should NOT be package deals where the requirements and conditions are the same for a country like Canada and one like China or an underdeveloped nation.
We must be ever vigilant against any future "trade deals".
cali
(114,904 posts)Autumn
(45,072 posts)The President wants this, and so do the corporations.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)but this shit will not just disappear. the fucks will keep trying to expand corporate control with willing pols like President Obama doing their bidding.
starroute
(12,977 posts)I think there are strategists within the Democratic Party who have Obama's ear and who believe the recipe for long-term electoral success is to split mainstream business interests -- particularly the Chamber of Commerce -- away from the increasingly loony Republicans and turn them into a pillar of Democratic electoral victories.
There are a lot of nasty correlates to this. Throwing the unions under the bus, for one. Paying lip service to a few leftwing goals, like gay marriage and marijuana legalization, and thinking that will be sufficient to keep the progressives on board, for another. In other words, constructing a pro-business but socially more-or-less liberal party on the grave of what used to be the party of FDR.
There's an alternative, of course. It involves reestablishing the Democratic Party on a basis of economic and environmental justice for everyone. But people who see business money as the key to winning elections can't even begin to imagine that sort of party. And they're prepared to lead us all over the cliff in the name of their flawed vision.