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(14,881 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)I kid! I saw it, but didn't create this meme, so just posted it.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Equating wingnuts with liberals, i.e. "Far Left Firebaggers" is just gross.
And deserves a big from me.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)hippie punching. I is one. This is about the goobers in the gop, but take what you must from it.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Is as offensive as "libruls" and "lefties" "fucking retarded" and is a way to denigrate those who aren't sensible centrists. But you know that.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)"Fucking retarded" is where I'd draw a very long line.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)But make sure you vote for more Third Wayers you "Far Left Fire Bagger Pony-Wanting ODS Racist Randian Thin-Skinned Hippies" or it'll be all your fault!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice sales pitch.
Edited to add: You might want to check where this comes from, because the use of the other wingerism is "Democrat President." I think you been punked.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)the republican hoard or not?
(Note: Not voting = voting for the republican hoard)
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)a simple question to determine whether the poster I asked the question of planned to vote for his/her interests ... even if not all (or even some) of his/her agenda goes unmet.
Cha
(297,220 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)" Note: Not voting = voting for the republican hoard)"
of how my Sociology professor, just this week, was talking about bullying. She said that even when one is a bystander who does not intervene in a bullying situation, it means that the person is allowing the bullying to happen. It's pretty much the same thing with elections; by staying home instead of voting for the major party that is most closely aligned with one's beliefs, they are allowing the other party a better chance to get in power who is further away from their beliefs.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Thank you for that.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)...by staying home instead of voting for the major party that is most closely aligned with one's beliefs, they are allowing the other party a better chance to get in power who is further away from their beliefs.Republicans continue think their big win was a rejection of Obama and acceptance of their ideas, no matter how wacky. In reality, all those who stayed at home pouting because everything wasn't rainbows and unicorns helped cause this mess we're in now.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)There is a persistent and pervasive myth that Liberals stayed home in 2010 to punish President Obama,
but the facts do NOT support this myth.
It has been debunked many times at DU,
but this propaganda Talking Point blaming the Left is still being catapulted by either the uninformed,
or the willful spreaders of false information.
You know what I'm talking about. The claim that a bunch of liberals were so pissed off at Obama that they stayed home and this caused the 2010 rout. It's pervasive. I won't link to examples because it comes up so regularly I see no point singling anyone out.
So I went back to the exit polls and the picture I see shows nothing like that. If you are a proponent of this claim, I challenge you for empirical proof that some set of activist liberals "took their ball and went home" or whatever metaphor you prefer to make Obama's leftward critics appear childish and immature. Inside, the evidence I found that shows this just ain't so.
<snip>
Still the claim that petulant liberals punished Obama to their own detriment is repeated so often with such certitude, I thought I would request to see the proof of it, because I don't see it, in the most obvious place it would appear if it were there, the proportion and voting of actual liberals in comparable elections.
If you have some more complex explanation of how it really happened, I would like to see it, because all I see is the proportion of the voting population calling themselves "conservatives" grew tremendously at expense of those calling themselves "moderates." [font size=3] Either a bunch of moderates became conservatives, or moderates stayed home, or a lot of conservatives who usually stay home came out. Or some combination of those things.[/font] Yet any of those explanations would be tremendously at odds with the "blame the progressives" explanation.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/08/06/1003805/-Did-liberals-really-stay-home-and-cause-the-2010-rout#
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)I know liberals and progressives turned out...we understood the problems and wanted to make sure Obama had people he could work with. I really think the fall down occurred with all those new folks who went to the polls in 2008 and then expected miracles...THEY stayed home in 2010. I also fault the media for consistantly giving (as they still are) wa-a-a-a-y to much air time to right wing lunatics who did nothing but mad mouth everything he wanted to do. They also never bothered (and really still haven't) reported on the Republican meetings held on BOTH Inauguration Days pledging to obstruct everything. That damn letter signed the second time should have been ALL OVER the news.
I've gotta go to class...see you guys later.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I'm not talking about voting in this particular instance. I'm talking about liberal bashing on this very thread and by the DINOs on this site.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)then calls folks "DINOs" ... Okayyyyy!
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)But the night is (relatively) young...
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)right. I'm whining.
Do us both a favor and place me on ignore.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Never.
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)I vote for those whose interests reflect mine. I do as much research on a candidate as I can and try to look at their voting record. If they vote against all the things I believe in, yet call themselves a Democrat, I don't vote for them. I'm pretty lucky because I live in a "Far Left Firebagger" bastion so I don't have to make that choice very often. They're pretty easy to spot. Their fans usually are the first giveaway.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)EW and Sanders voted for the budget compromise ... will you withhold your vote from them? After all, the voted against something that you believe in?
progressoid
(49,990 posts)Since it was the President's senior advisor that called us that.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)identify with either politicital party? I guess people have finally decided that if their party no longer wants them, rather than continue to be subjected to abuse, except when votes are needed, they are taking the message of 'we don't need your ideas' seriously. It was bound to happen.
The largest bloc of voters is now Independent. 'Firebaggers' used to vote Democratic. I wonder if they too are now among the 'no longer registered as a Democrat' contingency. History has examples of this when people finally take the message that they are no longer welcome in their party, seriously. This may finally be one of those times.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Does it include a totally unecessary and gratitous slap at the so-called far left firebaggers?
NOt. Great way to build a winning coalition.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)was gratuitous and uncalled for. But it doesn't negate the basic message that we not only should, as good citizens, vote in an 'off-election' year, but it's pretty crucial this year. That to me was the main message that got so convoluted.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)"Hey four eyes, vote Quimby"
"Hey beardo, vote Quimby"
It's a bizarre GOTV tactic - hurling insults.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)" Boner and I) both have to deal with extremists in our respective parties". Obama thinks that liberals are like teabaggers too.
As for voting, so what if the president took the public option off the table, supports TPP, KeystoneXL, corporate for-profit schools and Blanche Lincoln? You still better vote or it's all your fault!
Hippie-bashing - DU's favorite sport
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)It has the nice parchment background and they meant far left firebagger in the most amicable way, don't you realize that?
Nice how the buck gets passed back to congress with the absolution.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)But your point is not missed, nor is it ill-founded.
cali
(114,904 posts)yeah, this comes from a liberal/progressive perspective. NOT.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)You know, those Right of Center "liberals" that won't do anything for the people, because those bully Republicans won't let them. Those beholden to the corporations and Wall Street. It sure does not read as if it were written by any kind of Center or Left of Center Liberal.
TheMathieu
(456 posts)The American electorate is better than its vocal outliers.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Who or what the hell is "mvp"?
And we're back to "Far Left Fire Baggers"!
I'm surprised, I really thought you were more of a "substance" poster, not this sort of stupid shit.
Warpy
(111,256 posts)Certainly far from the best written.
Let this one sink into obscurity. It's where it belongs.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I am inclined to trash this divisive thread.
-Laelth
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Name calling is so very 2012. Get a new hobby.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)December 10, 2011 at 6:23pm · Like
https://www.facebook.com/liberalandproud/posts/104288089689978
Or at least that's what a quickie search turned up.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)yet five years later he's just finding his magic wand, er, pen AND phone.
Will Pitt really has gotten to them...
quinnox
(20,600 posts)"If only he had not been obstructed, he would have done so much for liberals!"
Riiiight, except for one little thing, he has demonstrated by his words and actions that he ain't no liberal.
And Obama did have a Democratic congress, and didn't even try to push progressive stuff in the first place.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)It makes me SICK to think of what might have been (after 8 disastrous years of the BFEE), if Obama and the Democratic Party had only seized on the power when they had it.
And it's cute that this crew is now referring to themselves as "Populists." It's gotta be Spamdan.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)especially one in particular. All they do is run around attacking other Duers for not being willing to drink and overdose on the kool-aid. Just like the peoples view people would do.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Obama Withdrawal Syndrome? Ugh. I can hardly wait.
840high
(17,196 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)It's not a good idea to call them either "mindless Right Wing morons" or "Far left fire baggers".
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)NICE!!!!!
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)quite offensive to those of us who feel/see a great deal of "swizz cheese" in the past 5 years. It's IS quite true that the Repukes have done nothing but obstruct all things OBAMA, still I myself can't cheer lead when after clearly seeing said obstruction he kept trying to win them over by compromising!
It just seems there should have come a time early on that he would have taken the bull by the horns and let them know he wasn't going to be pushed around. I could say much more and I feel he's an upstanding citizen, but so many of us wanted to see some "fire in his belly!" I guess he never wanted to be called an "angry black man!"
But in reality he's been called every thing from the Anti-Christ to a Socialistic Communist who set out to ruin this country! And they still call him whatever they want, letting too many unintelligent morons eat it up and keep the mantras going! I wanted him to understand that YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID and let them know they weren't going to push him around!
Enough, just letting off some steam.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)The reply wasn't supposed to be underlined like that.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I just found that call to vote, strangely leading to voting supression
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)It amazes me what gets folks around here fired up!
I'm soooo glad I found this spot named DEMOCRATICunderground!
Armstead
(47,803 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)are working against everything that you hold dear, not quibbles about timing or tactics; but end results, doesn't?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Make more progress on the Bush Education juggernaut? Possibly raise the minimum wage to a whopping $10?
Woo-hoo! Calling people names to get out and vote for a right-wing agenda! The DINOs have jumped the shark. Unless this is something from Fox Nation and the BOG swallowed it whole.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The drama never ends.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)The meme came from here-check it out.
https://www.facebook.com/MemeGOP?fref=ts
Your angst again the Prez v. against the gop is tres' interesting. Maybe you need to direct all your anger in the right direction? All I/this was suggesting is that 2014 could be a really important year to vote. Take what you wish from it.
sheshe2
(83,758 posts)Who'd a thunk it?
GOTV 2014 and beyond~
Armstead
(47,803 posts)...unless, if those who noticed the "Democrat President" tip off are correct, this is a bit of intentionally divisive punksmanship from the right wing
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)where absolute hatred of Obamacare led to Republicans seizing control in 2010 and 2012, even though in both elections, Democrats outvoted Republicans in straight-party voting. As far as the 2014 midterms, Senator Kay Hagan (D) is trailing one Republican challenger by 7%, and a Teabagger by 4%. Obama better keep that magic pen handy. We'll see.
But by all means, keep up with the cutesy, dumbed-down Facebook graphics.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)capitalize on it.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I'm not really feeling too much pain, but many in this state are. And DU needs to be reminded of that.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I vote. For Democrats. For Elizabeth Warren I vote with joy. For some other Democrats, not so much joy. So does every other Liberal I know. We all vote. All the time. For Democrats, or *maybe* on occasion for a Green, but only when the Republican can't possibly win.
Perhaps you'd like us to vote two or three times per election? I'd love to, but that's illegal.
You know who doesn't vote when they're power-mooned by the folks they voted into office? Independents, that's who. Perhaps you can beseech *them* to vote for Democrats instead of pouting on the sidelines. Or you could even ask some Democrats to stop power-mooning the 99%, so the Independents won't be so depressed and angry. Either of these would make more sense than asking people who already vote, to please start voting.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)http://prospect.org/article/republican-problem-independent-voters
The Republican Problem With Independent Voters
Paul Waldman
January 23, 2014
On economic issues, independents are closer to Democrats than they are to Republicans.
more...
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Sad.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Better?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Seems like a personal flaw.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)jazzimov
(1,456 posts)Get your facts straight.
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)They called Manny "fucking retarded". He just said so.
That seems rather mean and I believe that they should state, unequivocally, that Manny is not fucking retarded.
Unless they have evidence that he is. In that case, I'm cool with it.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)he would not let Medicare for All to be on the table and advocates were removed and excluded from the discussion, but whatever, I understand you think he is just to wimpy to stand up to the bullies. But don't worry. We will vote
Armstead
(47,803 posts)If you really want to makr comparisons....
Teabaggers are funded and carry out the will of Zillionaires and Mega Corporations
Democratic centrists who love to insult rhe "left" (i.e. Anyone who doesn't blundly support the status quo) are also funded and carry out the will of Zillionaires and MEga Corporations
Ergo sum...
MisterP
(23,730 posts)and other policies he went out of his way to block, purge, or move rightwards
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)That name is new to me "Far Left Baggers". Liberal is still the ugliest word to the other side and will out last any other. I'm a proud "Liberal", and yes, I will work with different campaigns so that we can keep the Senate and at least make good ground in the House and States.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)is the opposite, yet the same thing as the original 'baggers on the right; while they're on opposite sides of the political spectrum, neither of them like moderates, and they both dismiss any sort of progress unless they get absolutely everything they want (immediately). In addition, it is difficult for both types of 'baggers to distinguish between both of the major parties despite numerous differences such as where they both stand on health care, taxes, women's rights, foreign policy, etc.
That is a rough explanation on FL and FR 'baggers.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)But the right-wing policies the leadership of both parties have been pushing since the early 80's is anything but moderate.
And wanting to see us move away from those policies gets people characterized as "far left."
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)available to him, while the uninformed and very vocal on this board insisted he didn't have a magic wand/pen, or a bully pulpit.
We're also the ones who thought he looked pitiful in that "please like me" meeting with Republican leadership. See, some of us have paid attention during past administrations. The GOP does NOT act in good faith. It's taken five years, but Obama seems to have finally figured that out.
We're also the people who realized Obama and the Democratic Party blew it during the very early period of his administration, when we were in complete power. The GOP knows what to do with power... why don't Democrats?
I could go on, but it's Jonny Lee Miller time.
gLibDem
(130 posts)And they weren't exactly progressive.
Titonwan
(785 posts)don't see much 'progress' from an administration that appoints bankers that caused the economic problems, or supports indefinite detention of people, or drone assassination of U.S. citizens without 'due process', or has used the 1917 Espionage Act more than all previous presidents combined (eight and counting). Or kept republican't officials in offices better meant for Democrats. I hardly count this as progress.
No bankers are in prison. No war criminals have been executed. No violations of FISA (circa 1978 provisions) have been prosecuted. No real changes to the surveillance state. I hardly count this as progress.
If it were not for radicals pulling at the edges, this ship would turn starboard even worse than it is now.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)You are close to being the official conscience of the party, rather, I mean the board.
The party needs one.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)Good point!
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Americans need solutions, not bad apologies and revisionism.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Don't blatantly flaunt ignorance. Stop spreading false propaganda about the voting habits of liberals. You aren't helping GOTV by suggesting that the reason Democrats lose is because liberals don't vote.
If you really want to GOTV, give those who sit out someone worth voting for. Inspire reluctant voters with candidates who are not corporate owned and who will fight for labor, for the environment, for the poor, and always put working people's needs ahead of corporate/military/fundamental theocratic interests.
Signed,
The liberals and/or progressives who always vote.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The DINOs and BOG just refuse to get this simple, cogent point. Much better to blame the problem on racism or ignorance of how the government works.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)A good, working class, dependable pony.
That tired meme that's it's all the dirty fucking hippies' fault is just so 2010.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)It's pissing off a LOT of the usual suspects, and it's entertaining to watch as they bluster and bellow.
Posts like these are necessary. That way, they don't get a sense that they're undermining another pro-Democratic Party community while getting away with their unrealistic "scorched earth" opining.
LOVE it, babylonsister!
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)I don't need some anonymous screed by some snot-nosed blogger I never heard of calling out "left-baggers" to supposedly encourage me to vote.
I've voted in every damn election for 44 years, and I've ALWAYS voted Dem - whether I liked them or not. And I reserve the right to NOT like them, since for all my voting things have just been getting worse and worser.
The author of that piece of tripe can kiss my lefty ass.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)the rest of your post is on the nose.
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)hurt little egos.
FAR LEFT FIRE BAGGERS.
Yes, not cool and so many offended people here. I really think nothing offends me anymore; I'm immune.
This is DU. There's so much more in this world to be offended by.
Could you try to absorb the rest of this? What part of the actions of the gop do you agree with?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I'm also way past immune to a lot of things here on DU. One has to give as good as one gets here.,...And have a certain sense of humor about it all.
However, we also all have our sore points. And one sore point for many of us are references that are dismissive of the concerns of progressives/liberals who are not happy with President Obama on various issues -- or are unhappy with much about the Democratic Party's tendency to side with corporations when push comes to shove.
That's not a matter of bruised egos. It hits home because that is what the Democratic Poo Bahs have been doing for decades -- much to the determent of the country.
So, when a post contains a little nuggets like "far left firebaggers" in what is supposed to be a call for unity, it's going to stir up the shit pot.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)But it appears that this is something Obama and the BOG are just figuring out.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I'll be doing my part as well as I can this year. But who writes Democrat Party?
Democrat is a noun. Democratic is the adjective. Democratic Party.
Loudly
(2,436 posts)Popularized by Limbaugh, if not invented by him.
Adopted by unsuspecting liberals / progressives who think they're being rhetorically correct.
When all they are doing is assisting the bloody bastards who would undermine them.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Persons of DU, I would imagine, VOTE. I have in everything from local to national elections in 3 different states of the Union. I also "engaged in citizenship" in 5 years of one of the most un-selfish things you can do - I became a local official
I ran, won 4 elections financed with my own money as a Democrat
I am glad to have done it, but no good deed goes unpunished, let's just say.
In the last year, doing what was right was NOT easy
standing up for what I believed Democrats would have supported gave me the opportunity to see that power and power brokers aren't about parties. Many in this town who do not pay attention became completely dis-engaged, side tracked by the shiny little objects of a very corrupt system. A lot of Democrats do that in this country.
I'd like to say that I voted for Barack Obama over Hillary Clinton, and with the exception of some state races, and even I find the Democrats are the better over an alternative, I do not appreciate the deceit coming from the majority of those in BOTH parties, and this includes any rhetoric of Barack Obama's putting on his comfortable shoes to get behind "main street" over "Wall Street". It does not include his clandestine participation for the TPP. He was never a progressive, had we checked him out from the outset. At best, he has been socially liberal and most beholding to a corrupt Wall Street who assured his position in the White House while a lot of us worked our asses off on the street.
We had a chance right before Nancy Pelosi took "impeachment off the table", and we'll never reverse Bush's unitary executive moves resulting in the loss of so much civil liberty. Just look at the push back against those who stand for main street under the occupy movement. I read it here often.
If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention. By the way, Democrats can truly define themselves that way, and not because everyone should feel the same way about the majority of what passes as Democrats in office, who wouldn't know main street if it squirted up their ass.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)we cover politics. We get to see it, in crazy detail. I agree with you, the corruption is deep, and no deed goes unpunished.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It leaves you breathless to be part of it. I finally believe that most people don't pay attention AT ALL
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)In my little city, in '06 and '08, local Democrats were working their tails off, making sure everyone had an absentee ballot and then picking up said ballot before election day. I called them in '10 to ask if they were going to do the same thing, and it was, "Oh, you can print out a ballot here (gave website) and then mail it to the address on the same page." Very lackadaisical, like "Why are you bothering ME, bitch?" I think a change at the DNC had something to do with the poor vote turnout too.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)It's a shame what might have been.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Pity.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)And BTW... This Is The Site Where This Image Comes From...
https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net
Why don't they show themselves ???
babylonsister
(171,065 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)babylonsister
(171,065 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I'd like to see where this comes from for the record.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)You will see the site as:
https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net
The image has: /hphotos-prn2/t1/1514596_746683958684880_173544007_n.png
Added to it... but the source remains hidden.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)So I really don't what you're so "pissed off" about.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)They have to blame liberals it is their greatest source of recreation and the only fig leaf available to keep up the "Centrist" agenda.
Rex
(65,616 posts)So now even the populists are mad and won't take it anymore? Sadly the GOP is always the enemy, if moderates can stop being stupid long enough to be rational maybe they will come along and get the drift too. Okay I am onboard. Let's go fuck up the GOP three ways from Sunday!
MFrohike
(1,980 posts)That's nothing but a word soup of political buzzwords. Why on earth would populists of all people be making excuses in the name of party unity? Populists are semi-permanent insurgents in American politics. They don't make excuses for particular politicians for get out the vote photoshops.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)So inspiring!
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Seriously, who *are* these people? LOL
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Please, party apparatchiks (and I'm not suggesting that the OP is one), remember Truman.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman
-Laelth
great white snark
(2,646 posts)Hell, even simply asking people to vote pisses some off.
Thanks for this babylonsister.
GOTV '14
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)And I think more "liberal and progressives" would vote if they thought the so called liberal people they vote for wouldn't go all third way once in.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)[font size=3]"Democrat President" ??!![/font]
Now EVERYBODY knows the origin of this divisive screed.
It is unfortunate that even on DU there are a handful of the blind faithful that will pick up and catapult ANYTHING that blames the Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party.
Keep up the Good Work bashing Democrats!
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)We need to increase voter turnout if we want Wendy Davis to win. We need to vote.