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(7,044 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Click the picture and see the water all around, like a fish enlightened, know what I mean?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,866 posts)The only reason you have to work is so you can afford the tickets.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)lastlib
(23,360 posts)Youse won't haves any......
japple
(9,847 posts)n/t
Cerridwen
(13,260 posts)I found an online PDF copy from planetebook if anyone is interested. The quote in the OP is on page 92. The text is searchable.
http://www.planetebook.com/ebooks/1984.pdf
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)For added context:
"In Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, proles (collective noun) refers to the working class of Oceania (i.e. the proletariat).
Oceania's society is divided into three distinct classes: Inner Party, Outer Party and proles (with their own upper, middle and lower classes). The proles constitute 85% of the population; they receive little education, work at manual labor, live in poverty (although in having privacy and anonymity, qualitatively better off than Outer Party members), and usually die by the age of sixty."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proles
Well, at least according to Orwell most of us have a bit more privacy, but he didn't have knowledge about supercomputers and statins.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)It just keeps getting more and more true, regardless of how many blue links get thrown our way.
mountain grammy
(26,664 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Titonwan
(785 posts)and real net neutrality. If not, this is our future (worse than now).
sibelian
(7,804 posts)MONSTER TRUCKS! JELLY DONUTS! you lurrrrrbruls, it's all becuzza teh gyaz hur hur hur and other sentiments of that sort.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Is he describing heaven?
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Problem is that others read it as an instruction manual.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)But I also think that there was too much truth in the book, it came from what was already happening but not on that same scale. The scale was the wishful thinking of the ruling class....then and now.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Response to Scuba (Original post)
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Nac Mac Feegle
(972 posts)They stopped having someone in the cars here in the Phoenix area when some redneck shot and killed the contractor in the SUV with the equipment. The video enabled him to be prosecuted.
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reACTIONary
(5,795 posts)...a radar gun. In court. The measuring device is not your accuser. The state is.
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reACTIONary
(5,795 posts)...the alternative? The police officer says "he was going faster than I was". If you think hardware / software is hard to challenge, try going through the "wet-ware" owners manual.
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reACTIONary
(5,795 posts)... but my experience has been that if you hire the right lawyer, no more than a couple hundred bucks, the cop doesn't show up in court and the case gets dismissed.
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reACTIONary
(5,795 posts)...is a bit of a story. I was what I would now consider to be a "kid". I was stopped on an elevated freeway for speeding and was issued a ticket. Since I had a lot more time than money, I figured I would show up in court, plead guilty and take the "safe driving" class as my punishment.
I showed up and I waited, and waited, and waited, while the judge went through case after case. All of them amateur, do-it-yourself lawyers who didn't know squat. They would piss and moan and make ridiculous excuses that basically amounted to admissions of guilt. Bang, Guilty! Bang, Guilty! one after another.
After a while of this, I was growing impatient, so I slipped over to a "court official" standing on the side lines and asked when my case would come up. I told him I just wanted to plead guilty and take the safe driver course. He got all excited and frustrated and pointed out that they had announced at the beginning that everyone who wanted to do that was to form a line outside to be processed. I should have been paying attention! I missed my chance! He told me that the judge would be royally pissed at me, and would through the book at me. "Boy are you in for it." He was what I would now consider a snotty kid.
Finally my case came up. I was quaking! The prosecutor read the charge from off the ticket, including the date, time and location. The location was a street address, probably the street under the elevated freeway. I interrupted. "Excuse me sir, the incident did not occur at that location. It occurred on the freeway." The judge picked up his gavel - BANG - "Case dismissed." There was silence in the court while that sunk in.
As I was walking out, the snotty kid scowled at me. Hey, kid, have a nice day!
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I have got to get that book.
-p
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Phlem
(6,323 posts)Thank you my friend!
hope I can return the favor some day.
-p
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I seem to remember reading one blogger -repeatedly promoted on DU- who was arguing that the totalitarian "big brother" government was really the good guys.
One would hope it was intended as satire, but it wasn't.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Sadly we have a few here with the exact same mindset, they live in a binary world and can only focus on petty specific grievances.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)I wonder how many of Big Brother's advocates here have ever read 1984?