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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:08 PM Feb 2014

Why Walmart is getting too expensive for the middle class

Source: Yahoo Finance

... The sliding fortunes of Walmart (WMT) may best represent this recovery gap. Overall, retail sales rose 4.2% in 2013, or about 2.7% after accounting for inflation. And consumer confidence surveys show Americans on the whole feel considerably better now than they did a year ago. That ought to indicate good times for the nation’s biggest retailer.

Yet Walmart is struggling with weak sales and an underperforming stock price. ... Walmart, though known as a discounter, may be too expensive for millions of shoppers finding themselves more pinched — not less — as the pace of the so-called recovery accelerates. “Their consumer is shifting downward,” says Joe Brusuelas, chief economist for financial-data firm Bloomberg LP. “The competition for Walmart is changing. It’s now dollar stores.”

... What’s alarming for retailers such as Walmart is the sharp drop in income in the middle tier of earners. In 2001, taxpayers earning $100,000 or less accounted for 60% of total income; in 2011, they accounted for less than 50%. In basic terms, that means there are fewer middle-income families with money to spend, leaving retailers — and the overall economy — more dependent on a smaller group of high-income consumers.

Read more: http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/why-wal-mart-is-getting-too-expensive-for-the-middle-class-215417616.html

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Why Walmart is getting too expensive for the middle class (Original Post) Newsjock Feb 2014 OP
Pay your people, so they can afford to shop in your store! liberal N proud Feb 2014 #1
Even the fascist Henry Ford knew this. stillwaiting Feb 2014 #8
Middle income is $100,000. now? canoeist52 Feb 2014 #2
Yes, 100k is middle income name not needed Feb 2014 #3
Only 6% of Americans make over $97,000/yr. bvar22 Feb 2014 #7
Am I the only person who has a problem with the math in that last paragraph? WillowTree Feb 2014 #4
50% of INCOME, not individuals localroger Feb 2014 #5
Perhaps the chart will help clear it up herding cats Feb 2014 #6

liberal N proud

(60,348 posts)
1. Pay your people, so they can afford to shop in your store!
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 02:19 PM
Feb 2014

Walmart is complaining about the middle class eroding when they are part of the problem.




stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
8. Even the fascist Henry Ford knew this.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

I sometimes think that governments around the world are killing the prosperity of their middle classes to try and save this planet. I know that many will laugh at that.

In order to do this effectively, those actors in government would have to expertly divide our society so that there would be little chance of us ever working together on almost anything. I think they've done a pretty good job of this.

I strongly doubt they could ever be honest and open with the public if that truly were a goal they were pursuing.

From my perspective, it certainly seems like they are actively trying to level the middle class. Whether or not it is for "altruistic" purposes is up for much debate.

If they ARE successful at destroying the prosperity of the working and middle classes around the globe (even worse than they already have), I just hope that we don't collectively/globally let the elite hoard all of the wealth that they confiscate in the process.



canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
2. Middle income is $100,000. now?
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:10 PM
Feb 2014

When did that happen? And I would say second-hand stores such as Goodwill and Salvation Army are their real competition and represent better value. Dollar stores are just selling outright junk.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
4. Am I the only person who has a problem with the math in that last paragraph?
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:20 PM
Feb 2014

"In 2001, taxpayers earning $100,000 or less accounted for 60% of total income; in 2011, they accounted for less than 50%."

That would indicate that more taxpayers are earning more than $100,000, wouldn't it?

I'm not being intentionally dense, and I know there must be a flaw in the way I'm reading that. Someone help me, please.

localroger

(3,634 posts)
5. 50% of INCOME, not individuals
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:53 PM
Feb 2014

It means that more wealth is being concentrated in the hands of the wealthy and less is spread around to those in the bottom 90% (of individuals).

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
6. Perhaps the chart will help clear it up
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:56 PM
Feb 2014

If you look at the attached chart used in the article you'll see how fewer people are making more than 100k in 2011 vs 2001.

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/H8yHCnPcpEhWA7FJ.boh2Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTQwMA--/

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