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(1,428 posts)Colbert's Presidential Correspondence performance and Stewart's appearance on Crossfire are classic moments in American journalism.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)who work for them, they've got to make a living. It would be too difficult
for most, who want to remain honest, to go into a different field -- both in
terms of time and cost. That's the way things are.
Democrats could try to become more competitive in the media field, but,
that, too, presents with difficulties.
Duval
(4,280 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,758 posts)the most trustworthy source of news info by young people many years ago.
I don't see any reason that would have changed.
PADemD
(4,482 posts)I received a call from a pollster, who asked where I got my political news. He gave the options of ABC, CBS, or NBC. He was shocked when I told him Indecision 2000 on The Daily Show.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)Top of their game.
doc03
(35,417 posts)than any news report. Stewart really destroyed Fox on 2/4.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Or leveraged.
DamnYankeeInHouston
(1,365 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)The heaviest restriction upon the freedom of public opinion is not the official censorship of a press, but the unofficial censorship by a press which exists not so much to express opinion as to manufacture it.
Dorothy L. Sayers
1893-1957
British writer, essayist, playwright and translator.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Unofficial censorship, yep.
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)doesn't include the mass right-wing ownership of the radio waves. Why do you think Rush is on 650 stations, while Progressive radio registers barely a blip?
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malaise
(269,244 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)TDS is just another way to watch Fox News.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)It's all corporately owned. MSNBC is viewed as liberal but there are places it won't go (like for the most part the TPP) and they have someone like Scarborough on in the mornings.
The Daily Show and Colbert do a fine job of pointing out the stunning hypocrisy of both parties though mostly of the party most hypocritical and we know who that is.
"Democracy Now" online, with the great populist voice Amy Goodman and others is where you'll see way under reported stories of malfeasance and other corporate/guided class actions that are detrimental to the non gilded class.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)For years I was a member of two NPR's at once, but they are both so disappointing, I'm glad I dropped both of them.
We have an independent public station in DC that plays Democracy Now every day!
mdbl
(4,976 posts)FSTV has news from Democracy Now and Tomm Hartmann and entertainment/talk from Bill Press and Stephanie Miller (same morning lineup they had on Current.) No commercials, just PSA's. It's a nice change from the commercial laden crap of the other so-called news stations.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)in English wherever you can find them. Most of them have "real discussion shows" with diversified participants unlike what we have to deal with here with the same "Talking Heads" year after year saying the same Talking Points over and over. It's no long a discussion with different viewpoints talking about issues...It's a Propaganda Machine.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)I think they have created an absolutely brilliant propaganda machine that drives the overall narrative superlatively.
Unfortunately, they have neutered the progressive/liberal consciousness of our country.
They create reality for the masses currently, and until that changes I'm afraid it will be much harder to get any understanding of the progressive mindset and the logic within progressive policy ideas.
We're going to have to get more Americans caring enough to even realize that they can't trust our corporate media first though. Citizenship does have its responsibilities. At least it should.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)where the people KNEW their news media was bullshit, and they regularly made fun of it, people in this country hang on every word that falls from the lips of the pharmaceutical-company-funded idiot talking heads.
world wide wally
(21,758 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)With the over the top, craven apologies for speaking against rightist criminals, you see the courtiers must bow or be sent away to never work again. But the jester could give the king the truth and not lose his head. After all, he was only joking, and that is the only way to tell it when the king owns the media.
The much touted here at DU, MSNBC has a conservative owner. They're all very rich and conservative and they give the script to their lackeys daily to read to us. If they go off script, it's goodbye.
I'd call CNN the Crown News Network, FOX the Frothing Oligarch X-File and CBS the Crown's Bull Spreader if you get my drift.
Who's the King of the USA?
The Koch brothers and their ilk of paid off hustlers, goons and hucksters promoting their agenda. I give them credit, it's a very complex game they have paid to distract us.
lark
(23,182 posts)Stewart and Colbert are the ones that inform a great many that would otherwise be ignorant of the crap our government and it's "daddy," the rich corporations, are doing.
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)their media was a national joke. Everyone knew it was propaganda.
icarusxat
(403 posts)news and the truth, they would say not much truth in the news and not much news in the truth...we are there now.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)It's what happens in a corporate ruled nation.
"Our" media is no longer our media. Our media is comprised of primarily corporate misinformation suckage.
Same with "our" democracy. You can't have a viable democracy with a media like this.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)that investigate and even read a report such as CBO and immediately tweets misinformation and call it gospel, that's a f-up media. RWers are doing their best to control all of the media. I'm pretty sure they are in the process of trying to control and compromise social media as well. Propaganda is not democracy. The freedoms that the RWers constantly shout actually means dictatorship.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)otherwise they would be Fox News drones. I know. It's appalling. But at least they are getting some truth if not enough.
kairos12
(12,891 posts)any thought of unmasking Rethug talking points.
Cha
(297,898 posts)mediawhore$$$$ are rampant with shit-carriers for goPropaganda machine.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Says more about the corrupt state than the corrupt press of today.
Remember the scripted press conference the night before the Iraq invasion? The press corpse all acted like zombies, asking questions in the order asked by Smirko. He even joked with "Stretch" about asking a question out of turn and then said, "Heh heh heh," and went on to kill a million innocent people for their oil and whatever else Wall Street warmongers and banksters could pilfer.
What says it all: He's not in prison. Don Siegelman is.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)your post made me log in to add this to the thread. Damn you!
Octafish
(55,745 posts)He stood up to the liars and called them out on it.
Thank you for remembering, BelgianMadCow. Thanks for standing up to them, yourself!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)about the "Naked Emperor" at that speech at the Press Dinner... It was if a dam of silence had been broken.
It took so much courage for him to do that. It's amazing he survived it...but his supposedly "conservative" TV persona gave him enough cover that no one on the Right seemed to know how to handle what he said.
BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)and yes, the awkwardness is delightful.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)Well Worth the Watch for NEWBIE DU'ers and a REFRESHER for those of us who Lived through it all...and whose memories (under assault of some kind of PSTD...have catalogued this into memory...who need to BE AWAKENED.)
Just Saying! This is a Refreshing Watch back to the "Early Bush Days" and how the "Push Back" went. We tried to be HEROES....I think that we were in many respects.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)NEITHER Party seems to miss it.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)The goal being absolute control by money, for money and of money.
and the results over the last 30 years can hardly be denied,
nor blamed on one senile President.
polynomial
(750 posts)Media are getting easier to understand how they misconstrue, misinterpret, or depending on the network and the time the new wave of journalism that offers light airy refined nonsense noise that mentally distort the electorate mind with arduous unclear deductive reporting.
From my view it is the creative leap actually a quantum journey with silence, sort of like both the Congress, the Senate, and the Judicial resort to sonic silent running super submarine silence pitching out that economic derivative that very few understand then listening to the return ping. But half America is running to lean not understanding what is going on, however very illustrated by the super bowl commercial follow up interviews feel more comprehensive than regular elections.
Snowden gave America a peek at the profiteering nova that so many completely reject, similarly as much as 911 was an inside job perpetrated by legions of the media. Ladies and gentlemen of America we are something like seventeen trillion dollars in deficit. An extraordinary number even the well-respected Ed Shultz talks about. His radio program that rants this deficit cannot be repaid so buy gold. Thom Hartmann with the same doom, that stock market crash is coming so buy gold.
We all need to reinforce our thought to recognize realize these long time players on the media that share memories of their tenure in broadcasting along with the longtime political persons that claim the best experience. Yet all of them brought America to where we are at right now. America is a huge playground for corruption in politics business and the military industrial complex that gives way to capitalism that has run amuck because very few are held accountable except for labor that is exploited for the trillions in backroom secret deals for the one percent.
Whoever believes that an xl pipeline is sacrosanct in blessings for good governance is in reason to compare a dolt. This is the pivotal moment President Obama should see the pipe line drawn can have a wrench at any point, off shore drilling already a natural disaster. Just as legions of political bandits through banking slip in faulty material then the told you so media rhetoric flies.
Chances are and knowing all the crazy economic hostage tit for tat going on right now the Republican tea party crazies have all kinds of economic IEDs planted in this TPP free trade agreement. The Republicans didnt even blink and the media did not do a good job of shaming them. Better living through profiteering with all that as a gift from the mainstream media that should help America understand issues.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Must be included in some cable package that I don't have.....all I seem to get is political propaganda and meaningless BS.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)90% of people who use statistics in online postings make them up?
Or was it 80%? I forget.
The big news media and small news media often deserve criticism, but really. 90 percent of all journalists? Give me a break. Bullshit is bullshit.
countmyvote4real
(4,023 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)I hear ya....
"WE SHALL OVERCOME......SOMEDAY"
Dems & Others...just gotta "Keep on Truckin'"...
The WORK never ends.....
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)To the point that you all can read all about it on CNN.