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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 03:07 AM Feb 2014

21 states join fight to halt Chesapeake Bay cleanup

State attorneys general, most of them Republicans, from as far as Alaska and Montana joined the American Farm Bureau Federation in its fight to prevent the Environmental Protection Agency from carrying out its plan to clean up the nation's largest estuary. Impaired waters have led to fish-killing dead zones and other marine life die-offs for decades.

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21 states join fight to halt Chesapeake Bay cleanup (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2014 OP
What the fuck?? Control-Z Feb 2014 #1
Do you sometimes feel that we are living in a science fiction novel Downwinder Feb 2014 #4
More like a mix of awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #8
My words exactly newfie11 Feb 2014 #12
Pretty sick KT2000 Feb 2014 #2
REPUBLICAN leadership! elleng Feb 2014 #6
This would still hold true awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #9
What is sad... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #10
K&R #5. Off you go. /nt Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #3
Holy shit! elleng Feb 2014 #5
Way to go.. GOPOLLUTERS! Cha Feb 2014 #7
Fighting to halt the cleanup of Chesapeake Bay? ReRe Feb 2014 #11
It's an Obama initiative, so of course they have to block or sabotage it.... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #16
Oh. I see... ReRe Feb 2014 #17
This is where the work get real and expensive quaker bill Feb 2014 #13
i notice "Don't mess with Texas," Greg Abbott has signed Downwinder Feb 2014 #14
This must be an example of Obama's "lawless use of executive orders" the Republicans were referring okaawhatever Feb 2014 #15

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. Fighting to halt the cleanup of Chesapeake Bay?
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:00 AM
Feb 2014

Chesapeake Bay? Number one, it's downright unAmerican. Number two, what gives them the right to meddle in something that's going in Chesapeake Bay? I say it gets the boot. What judge would stop the cleanup of Chesapeake Bay if that's what Chesapeake Bay wants?

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
13. This is where the work get real and expensive
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:55 AM
Feb 2014

The early phases of the clean water act did a fine job working on the tail pipes of major facilities, but to really clean up, you have to go upstream from there. The TMDL plans run up the stream and pipelines to the individual users. This is why the fertilizer institute and the chicken and pork producers oppose the next step.

The next step involves reductions in fertilizer application to residential lawns and the requirement for treatment systems on concentrated animal feeding lots (chicken and pork mostly). It can also involve new rules and inspection requirements on residential treatment (septic) systems, or the requirement that these be abandoned and the residences connected to regional WWTPs.

This gets pricey and personal, but it does work. The Tampa Bay NEP (national estuary program) has involved most of the residential aspects of this program working with the local gov'ts on lawn fertilizer restrictions and new WWTPs, as well as other things like the recreation of oyster beds (filter feeders), and have resulted in stunning improvements in water clarity and nutrient reductions (both go hand in hand).

Republicans in FL have at various times opposed and then supported, and then opposed the efforts, depending on who's ox is being gored and whether tax money was needed....

It is however the right thing to do.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
15. This must be an example of Obama's "lawless use of executive orders" the Republicans were referring
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 12:02 PM
Feb 2014

to. How dare he? If we don't have the freedom to pollute the waters and make billions doing so, what freedoms do we have?

The W Virginia attorney general in office when the ex order was signed was a Democrat who supported it. Now they have a Repubican who joined the anti-clean up Republican group. I wonder if the incident with the chemical spill will have W Virginians changing their minds?

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