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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:51 AM Feb 2014

"Rand Paul And Ted Cruz Are NOVELTY CANDIDATES, Not To Be Taken Seriously."



Enjoy the ride Clowns!!.........Love the bird's nest hairdo..........




Paul Ryan is the Odds-On Favorite to Win the Republican Nomination in 2016



There's been a lot of blathering about who the front runner for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination is, and so far I've resisted taking part. But I guess I'm kind of curious: Is there much of a case to be made for anyone other than Paul Ryan?



On the substantive side, Ryan sure seems like he's setting himself up for a run. There's his steady series of "unheralded" anti-poverty outreach trips that always manage to be just heralded enough to get sympathetic press coverage. He brokered a budget deal with Patty Murray that was businesslike and low-drama but didn't alienate the tea party crowd too badly. Today, in a hearing about the CBO's report on Obamacare, he acknowledged that the report didn't say that employers would be cutting jobs—points for intellectual honesty!—while also calling Obamacare a "poverty trap"—points for demagoguery! This is all stuff that seems very delicately calculated to stay in the good graces of the tea party base while building up plenty of policy substance cred that will keep him attractive to moderate voters.



On the flip side, who are his big competitors? Chris Christie is toast. Marco Rubio is inexperienced to begin with, and then muffed his chance for statesmanlike glory when he staked his reputation on immigration reform and came up empty. Jeb Bush can't even get his mother's endorsement. Scott Walker is getting buzz, but he strikes me as having too much baggage. Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are novelty candidates, not to be taken seriously. And although I used to think Bobby Jindal might have a chance, he's had a rough past couple of years.




Maybe I'm dismissing all these guys a little too glibly. Walker and Bush are certainly serious possibilities. And I admit that Ryan doesn't always give off a vibe that says he's running for president. And of course, we're still a couple of years away from 2016, anything can happen, blah blah blah. Still, ol' blue eyes sure looks like the favorite to me right now. Anyone want to make a case for one of the others?






http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/02/paul-ryan-odds-favorite-win-republican-nomination-2016
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rocktivity

(44,977 posts)
1. Lyin' Ryan is the only one who comes close to scaring me
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:54 AM
Feb 2014

It sounds like he learned his lesson from '12 and is concentrating on moderate and swing voters. But even he isn't that good at running marathons...

http://vimeo.com/48781343


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Segami

(14,923 posts)
2. "Jeb Bush can't even get his mother's endorsement."
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 12:01 PM
Feb 2014


Sure does look like Eddie Munster is quietly setting the theater for a possible run....


Well, I have the corn ready and a comfy chair..

rocktivity

(44,977 posts)
11. LOL -- if even SHE understands that another Bush in the White House
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:07 PM
Feb 2014

is at least two more generations away, she DOES have a "beautiful mind!"


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Gothmog

(174,549 posts)
8. Ryan does not come off as being presidential
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:43 PM
Feb 2014

He looks to be far too young and does not look or sound presidential

wandy

(3,539 posts)
4. Well, you could almost bet that the front runner will be the one.....
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 12:16 PM
Feb 2014

that comes up with the most vicious, nonsensical, bumper sticker tag lines.
The race is not for ideas or plans but rather for how many times words like taker, parasite and take our country back can be fit into one sentence.

This is what the GOP has to offer. This is what the owners want. This is what the rank and file Teapublican admires.
Do not think of them as a novelty item. They are the GOP's stock and trade.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
5. Good analysis. Jindal is too "dark" for Rs, so I think he's a token...a compromise because he's
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 12:20 PM
Feb 2014

not black but an Indian...the one with a dot, as they so crudely say.

Bush's mother doesn't want her and GHB to die on the family campaign trail or maybe she doesn't want to offer up any of the family's wealth...that it takes for a national run, is my take on that. I don't think Jeb will make his decision on that...no campaign issue there, and he has a very savvy Hispanic wife. He does have political baggage. I think if he decides to do it, he'll be strong. I also think the press will cut him a break, yet he's not been through the national press hatchet machine.

How I agree that it's probably going to be Ryan is all you said...and that he's already taken the heat of a national vetting and come out pretty well. His family is used to campaigning and the kids are too young to bring on any bad news. His wife has good vibes, too. I don't associate his name with any putrid scandals. He's smart, young...maybe a bit too young...but he has national friends in high places, is strong with the Republican Party, would be the best to maneuver the Tea Party and establishment. And he presents very well ... he causes me the most concern. His physical looks and physique, frankly, are what Americans want in a President.

The rest of them...I like the term "novelty candidates"...the me-me-me- type that want to hear people say their names, rub elbows with rich people, give them a few bucks, which makes them feel relevant.

The VP pick will be interesting. With a WASP for President and wife, they've got to do some token or showing for the "others", but who? Surely not a black person. So, likely a female Hispanic...Susana Martinez? Not from a big state to bring in electoral votes.

Thoughts?

Cha

(316,509 posts)
12. Clowns Redux 2016
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:12 PM
Feb 2014

They have no other contenders! they had Jon Huntsman 2012 and they ignored him right off the stage. they were banking$$$$$ on Christie 2016 and he corrupted himself right off the stage. Not that he wasn't a

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
13. LOL!...Yes, of course,...but be afraid,....be very afraid of the reTHUG's secret weapon..
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 07:42 PM
Feb 2014

Oh,...my sides are going to split open from laughing so hard at his mug..... ....

'The Secret Weapon'

Gothmog

(174,549 posts)
9. Rand and Carnival Cruz are indeed jokes
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:44 PM
Feb 2014

I would love for either one of these two idiots to be the GOP nominee

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