Denver CEO found dead of grisly suicide by nail gun

[Frustratedlady]

Under investigation, American Title CEO dead in grisly suicide

By David Migoya
The Denver Post
Posted 02/07/2014


The founder and CEO of American Title Services in Centennial was found dead in his home this week, the result of self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun, according to the Arapahoe County coroner.

Richard Talley, 57, and the company he founded in 2001 were under investigation by state insurance regulators at the time of his death late Tuesday, an agency spokesman confirmed Thursday. It was unclear how long the investigation had been ongoing or its primary focus.

A coroner's spokeswoman Thursday said Talley was found in his garage by a family member who called authorities. They said Talley died from seven or eight self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun fired into his torso and head.

Also unclear is whether Talley's suicide was related to the investigation by the Colorado Division of Insurance, which regulates title companies.

The division is a part of the Department of Regulatory Agencies.

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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_25081462/under-investigation-american-title-ceo-dead-grisly-suicide#ixzz2se3Eg0eX

[jollyreaper2112]

1. That...

That doesn't seem like a very popular method. You don't hear about it much.

[bobclark86]

49. There's a reason...

people use guns. If you're very, VERY unlucky, two shots (seen it before).

[longship]

2. Reminds me of Steig Larrson's Trilogy.

It doesn't end well for one bad dude because of a nail gun in the hands of a 4' 11" 90 lb young woman.

[madaboutharry]

15. I thought the same.

[tularetom]

53. Here ya go

[longship]

55. That scene in the book is better.

But it was still fairly well done in the Swedish movie.

Noomi Rapace was incredible as Lisbeth.

[Frustratedlady]

3. Couldn't this be tied to the mortgage scandal that is being investigated?

Or am I picking lint off a sweater?

It sounds like he had a large operation.

[AllyCat]

22. The similarity is attention-grabbing

Curious to see where this goes

[LuvNewcastle]

4. Whatever is handy, I guess.

I suppose he tried the chest first, and when those nails didn't do the job, he went for the brain. Poor bastard. Awful way to go, but I suppose it's better than a long time in prison and then poverty for the rest of his life.

[glowing]

5. This doesn't sound like a suicide. It sounds like a message.

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There are better methods to kill one's self than to take a nail gun and do this over and over to his own self. I'm more than suspicious about the claim of suicide.. What made them think this; that the nail gun was in his hand? Anyone who may have caused this would have probably used gloves and could have put the nail gun in the man's hand after they killed him. Sounds like a hit job to me. Maybe a message to other's who are trying to decide whether or not to become a "snitch" for the prosecutor.

[onethatcares]

6. I agree

in order to place a nail gun against the skin, depress the cocking mechanism and pull the trigger more than once requires a hell of a lot

of determination, because it hurts like hell, specially if you're using 10d or 12d framing nails.

I accidentally shot a 12d through my thumb at one time in my life, I did not have the courage to try it twice.

[Frustratedlady]

7. I agree. Your first reaction would be to try to rub the pain away

and, somewhere in that short period, you would come to your senses. Those things hurt and I'd think it would only take one or two to wake you up to rethink your plan.

Smells to high heaven.

[LuvNewcastle]

8. Could be.

I'd have to look at their evidence, but it seems likely that someone did this to him. It would really be hard to shoot yourself over and over with a nail gun.

However, the shots in the chest make it seem more like a suicide. It's just the sort of thing a person would try if he's going to use that method to kill himself, not something a murderer would do. A person would want to try and see if the chest shots worked before he went to the head. A murderer would probably just go straight for the head.

[PADemD]

10. Wouldn't a real gun have been more quick and effective?

This seems more like someone did this to torture him.

[LuvNewcastle]

11. Oh yes, a regular gun would be my first choice.

Or taking an overdose. Or slitting my wrists. You're right, the method is very odd for a suicide. Most people who commit suicide do what they think will be the quickest and least painful. If it was a suicide, he didn't think much about it before he did it.

[glowing]

27. It sure does.. And perhaps those in the govt who are working the case don't want the public to know

that life has turned into a Hollywood blockbuster on their case.. So, suicide is announced to the public, while being nearly implausible. In order for him to do this to himself, I would think he'd have to be a masochist OR he'd have to be incredibly drugged/ drunk to push the nail gun into his body more than 1 time.

AND perhaps the "killers" didn't mean to kill him, but to get info out of him.. They may have screwed up by killing him OR they got the info they were torturing him for and then ended his life? If I were the prosecutor, judge, investigator, and potential juror's on the case, I'd be more than hesitant to push forward on an investigation... I'd certainly be looking behind my back quite a bit.

[Frustratedlady]

29. If I were caught up in a situation like this, I would darned well...

have a document or thumb disk filled with information and labeled, "In The Event of my Untimely Death" and left in a lock box. I would leave the key with a trusted friend or relative. Not my lawyer but someone totally divorced from any level of the legal or financial systems. In this day and age, I wouldn't trust anyone close to cases involving high finance.

I agree with your scenario of trying to get information from him. They would have to kill him.

That's all we need...another idea for a weapon for killing.

[glowing]

31. Kind of sounds to me like the guy who was torturing has a penchant for Lethal Weapon movies.

I can't remember, either #2 or #3, where the Danny Glover character, was getting his house re-modeled and one of the bad guys and the two cops ended up on an action fight with a nail gun. I think one of the bad guys was killed with the nail gun. When I read the story, I immediately thought of the Lethal Weapon movies where the nail gun was the lethal weapon. If I hear another CEO type is blown up while taking a shit, I honestly think an investigation into Mel Gibson or Danny Glover may ensue, LOL.

[Frustratedlady]

36. Someone call Sherlock! eom

[Nay]

34. Completely agree. This rich guy could buy a gun anywhere -- why nailgun himself

to death?? It makes no sense at all.

I want the police to find out whether he owned any guns. I bet he did. If so, why didn't he use one of his own guns? If he owns guns, then this man was murdered by someone else and is not a suicide.

[alcibiades_mystery]

38. I heard guns are hard to get in Colorado for middle aged rich white guys

Haha! Just kidding!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

37. The use of a nail gun was done to torture the victim. This is a murder, not a suicide. nt

[tblue37]

28. This! nt

[Cha]

9. Damn! Suicide by

nail gun.

[TBF]

16. It's like a demented

game of Clue ...

I'm not sure I'm buying this story.

[ReRe]

12. Suicide unlikely...

... unless he was loaded up on pain pills? The body wants to live, even if the sick mind doesn't. Has to do with the nervous system. Sympathetic/autonomic nervous system? Anyway, I think he probably paid someone to do this for him. A "contract" suicide of sorts. If he did do it to himself, it could have been the kind of staple gun that you can hook up to a power air generator making it very easy to depress the trigger.
If I was going to commit suicide, I damn sure wouldn't do it that way. It might hurt.
(Sorry, I'm in a Hustleresque mood this morning.)

[Demeter]

13. OMG!

the desolation and destruction oby MERS, the mortgage frauds, the derivatives and the mortgage-backed securities continues....

[Botany]

14. this does not pass the smell test

n/t

[DeSwiss]

17. ''...seven or eight self-inflicted wounds.....''

- K&R

[Cirque du So-What]

18. Pretty quick decision from the coroner's office, dontcha think?

Seems an investigation of a dubious 'suicide' like this would require toxicological studies and a host of forensic techniques before glibly announcing, 'yep, he offed himself.' I don't like to invoke the recent tragic death of Philip Seymour Hoffman, but I heard yesterday that the results of his autopsy are 'inconclusive' - despite the fact that he was found with a needle still in his arm.

[Yo_Mama]

19. I don't believe it - sounds like a message murder

No way does a person commit suicide in this manner. The old carbon monoxide is a lot more effective and far easier.

[Thor_MN]

20. What's this? The fourth "suicide" of CEO in the finace world in as many weeks?

They must be running out of methods to make them look unique... Either CEOs have an aversion to committing the same suicide, or there's "assistants" that do.

[AndyTiedye]

21. Suicide? No Way

seven or eight self-inflicted wounds from a nail gun fired into his torso and head.

[Are_grits_groceries]

23. I.Do.Not.Believe.This!

He would have to be on some huge amount of a drug like bath salts. PCP, or other drugs that seem to let you perform incredible acts even against oneself.

Suicide by nail gun my ass!

[countmyvote4real]

24. Yikes.

So far, at least they haven't blamed it on marijuana., but just you wait.

[LuvNewcastle]

25. Because I Got High

[newfie11]

26. They need a forensic pathologist to go over him

Not all coroners have that kind of training.

[jsr]

30. There are very few cases reported in the literature

http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-642-79523-7_92

[TwilightGardener]

32. Who would choose to die this way? It defies common sense.

[MrScorpio]

33. Mr. Moneybags, by nailgun, in the garage. nt

[backscatter712]

35. What no puns?

I know, if I made bad jokes about a man's death, I'd probably get nailed to the wall...

[magical thyme]

39. another suspicious suicide without mention of a suicide note.

Really? He tried to commit suicide by nail gun into his torso? Multiple shots to the torso? A CEO couldn't think of -- or access -- a less excrutiating way to check out?

This reads less like a suicide than a message.

Not unlike the Economics PhD who "committed suicide" by jumping down a 50' ravine last week.

[glowing]

41. Or was pushed off the cliff... Take the dude out to a remote spot, get info, and dump body.

These are incedibly suspicious deaths. I'm thinking these idiot stole from a drug cartel.

[magical thyme]

42. also the executive who jumped from the highly secured, locked highrise top last week in London

This is the 4th "suicide" in a row by executives under investigation, no suicide notes mentioned. And a reporter investigating oil shenanigans disappeared within the last couple weeks as well.

These are contracted hits.

Even JMG, who tends to avoid conspiracy theories and sticks to adapting to peak oil, picked up on this in his blog.

[glowing]

45. Yeah, its just too odd... AND its like a Hollywood movie (Lethal Weapon?) Must be a Mel Gibson fan.

[longship]

50. Nope, not Mel. Lisbeth Salander fan.

She's the one who knows how to handle a nail gun.

[PADemD]

48. Who is JMG?

[Baitball Blogger]

40. Suicided. Not suicide.

[hootinholler]

43. OMG I'm the first "Nalied it" reply?

You peeps are slipping.

On a serious side, that takes some real effort and perseverance as a suicide method.

[cherokeeprogressive]

46. Searched the thread. Found zero "Nalied it" replies. You're definitely the first.

Props for originality!

[backscatter712]

47. Nah. I beat you to the pun-ch. See post #35.

This guy was clearly gunning for trouble!

[Jesus Malverde]

44. Shooting yourself multiple times is common in suicides

Just ask Gary Webb...

[Politicalboi]

51. I wonder if it was......

REEFER MADNESS!

Did he play a piano?

[FarCenter]

52. Are nail guns with high-capacity magazines considered "assault nailers"?

[Aerows]

54. Is this related to the other three banker's deaths in the last week?

Seems odd.

[Boxerfan]

56. I too am skeptical...But check out this story from my area a while back

I remembered this story & figured it may give a slight bit of credence to the story-not much but slight...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/04/21/study-man-survives-nail-gun-shooting-12-nails-to-head/

"
PORTLAND, Ore. – An Oregon man who went to a hospital complaining of a headache was found to have 12 nails embedded in his skull from a suicide attempt with a nail gun, doctors say.

Surgeons removed the nails with needle-nosed pliers and a drill, and the man survived with no serious lasting effects"