Oklahoma State basketball player shoves fan

[alp227]

Wow. You thought these incidents were non-existent after the 2004 Pacers-Pistons brawl. Well guess what?

Highly touted Oklahoma State guard Marcus Smart let his frustration get the best of him during the Cowboys' game against Texas Tech Saturday night.

He was being helped up after flying into the crowd during a shot-blocking attempt when he turned around and responded to something a Tech fan said.

The fan who got shoved was profiled by the Texas Tech alumni magazine in 2010.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

1. Not gonna judge.

Who knows what that guy said? It could have been warranted.

[petronius]

3. Exactly what I was going to post. Seems like a lot of fans think they

can speak to players however they want - but there are things that one man can say to another man in public that rightly deserve a shoving or a punch. This may have been one of those things...

[greyl]

7. Bull fucking shit, you two.

Violence is a stupid, intolerant, and reckless response to speech one deems offensive.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

13. Say something racist or homophobic to me and you'll probably get decked.

Call the cops, fine. But I bet you won't be so quick to run your mouth in the future.

[Logical]

15. LOL, I love Internet tough guys! nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

20. Not an internet tough guy.

Just a guy tired of being called a faggot and watching friends and bullying victims kill themselves. Some of us are tired of being told to sit back and take racism and homophobia, meanwhile it's killing some of us. Maybe next time some redneck keys my car, or calls me a faggot outside a club I'll just sit there and take it like a good little liberal pacifist.

[greyl]

16. I hope it doesn't take you getting decked to change your attitude. nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

21. I've been decked more than once.

But I'm never on the side of bigotry, which side are you on?

[greyl]

26. I'm on the side that thinks violence is a stupid, intolerant, and reckless response

to speech one deems offensive, and that hasn't been decked more than once.

[Winning1]

18. I second this...

pretty much

[petronius]

19. There is some speech that translates directly to:

"Pardon me sir, but I wish to engage in fisticuffs with you. Are you amenable to such interaction?"

no one is obligated to answer in the affirmative, of course...

[Logical]

14. Deserve a punch? Wow, classy! nt

[alp227]

8. So if i shoved you if i didn't like something you said, would you press charges? nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

12. I don't involve the police in anything.

Unless it's for insurance purposes, so no.


If I said said something racist or hateful (not saying this guy did) I would say I deserved it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. Doesn't make it right, but the guy looks like the run-of-the-mill pompous

sports booster you see around here.

[Lost_Count]

32. What could he say that would give the player the right to lay hands on him?

[ChangeUp106]

2. Nothing excuses what Smart did

[ForgoTheConsequence]

4. There are plenty of things that would excuse it.

A shove isn't the end of the world, and he apologized.


I'm sure the twitter universe is overflowing with outrage and racism by now though.

[ChangeUp106]

6. No, there's not

And actually Twitter is flooded with people pulling the race card already. It makes us look bad quite frankly. We don't know what happened.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

9. We don't.

I'm not sure who is playing the race card. If someone said something racist to me while I was full of adrenalin they would get more than a shove, so I can see more than one thing that would justify a love shove. Could have been worse, he apologized.

[Logical]

17. So, someone makes me mad with only words, punch them! Got it! nt

[ForgoTheConsequence]

22. Only words?

Tell that to the bullying victims who take their own lives every year.

[alp227]

23. "Mere words" vs bullying...which is which?

Bullying apologists re-frame bullying as "mere words" to censor what's really happening, Frank Luntz style.

[Broward]

31. Agreed, some times hurtful words are a lot worse than a little push.

[kwolf68]

11. Race Card both ways

One side...Smart is a "thug" because he's black

the other side...black guy can do no wrong. All whiteys fault.

Both suck

[msongs]

5. is that rush ? :-) nt

[1000words]

24. Smart's anger could very well be merited, but ...

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he has earned a reputation for being very emotional, and not particularly mature about it. Most knowledgeable college hoops fans will agree to that observation. Either way, his actions are unacceptable and he will be sitting a game or two. Finally, pro fans are ruthless. If he wants to show he is ready for that level, he needs to show more restraint.

[ForgoTheConsequence]

25. I agree.

And the fact that he apologized shows that he knows he overreacted.


That being said, this whole "I should be able to say whatever bigoted stuff I want and face zero repercussions" mindset is baffling.


Violence should always be a last resort, but people can only be pushed and bullied so much.

[1000words]

27. "Home court advantage" has gotten ugly, in my opinion.

These are still kids, and it is just a game, after all.

[exboyfil]

28. You are right

I remember being at a baseball game once as a teenager and a little kid had a banner for the visiting team. One of the home fans snatched the banner from the kid and stomped on it (I think it was an Angels home game). I also got several nasty comments when I was a teenager and cheered for the Reds at a Dodgers game. In hind sight I probably could have gotten beat up since I was at the alone basically alone (I traveled with a church group but I did not have any friends in it).

It is not a new phenomenon. Smart should not have shoved him and probably will get a suspension, but, unless Smart is unhinged, the guy probably said something really bad to him.

[Orrex]

29. "it is just a game, after all."

That's adorable.

[Lost_Count]

33. if he went from zero to all he can take in two seconds of interaction....

... then the problem is his.

[rurallib]

30. I will be an odd guy out here

I think this whole asshole fan thing is way out of hand.
Smart will probably get some punishment from his team, plus apparently he did apologize.
But I think Texas Tech could send a loud message that this type of neanderthal behavior is no longer acceptable and take away that guy's tickets. After an investigation of course.

[Paladin]

34. +1.

I don't condone the OSU player's actions---but the profile of that Tech fan portrays a major-league douchebag, the kind of sports fanatic who will be milking this altercation for free bar tabs for the rest of his so-called life.....

[Iggo]

35. LOL...loser.