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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:09 PM Feb 2014

Here's the first recorded instance of the F-word in English



http://io9.com/heres-the-first-recorded-instance-of-the-f-word-in-eng-1519247071

And it's a monk expressing his displeasure at an abbot. In the margins of a guide to moral conduct. Because of course.

Technically, "fuck" appeared two times before this. In 1500, it was used in a satirical poem to describe some friars. In that case, nothing like "fuck" was actually written out. Instead, the word was hidden in a code. And in 1513, it appeared in a Scottish poem as "fukkit."

But for English's first use, we've got a dissatisfied 1528 monk. He's written "O D fuckin abbot." Melissa Mohr, author of Holy Sh*t: A Brief History of Swearing, says this "fuck" could be either literal or metaphorical:

It is difficult to know whether the annotator intended "fucking" to mean "having sex," as in "that guy is doing too much fucking for someone who is supposed to be celibate," or whether he used it as an intensifier, to convey his extreme dismay; if the latter, it anticipates the first recorded use by more than three hundred years. Either is possible, really—John Burton, the abbot in question, was a man of questionable monastic morals.
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Here's the first recorded instance of the F-word in English (Original Post) steve2470 Feb 2014 OP
I though we got that word from the Dutch... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #1
Yes - Dutch apparently dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #13
Well that is going to take all the fun out of using that word. Thanks a lot! L0oniX Feb 2014 #2
Hypocrisy by moralizing clerics is a tradition older than fuck. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #3
Fornication Under the Crown of the King. panader0 Feb 2014 #4
Now I wonder if "fuckin' A" is short for "fuckin' Abbott" Squinch Feb 2014 #5
Thought the A stood for asshole. Neoma Feb 2014 #6
I always did too, but... Squinch Feb 2014 #7
Back in my day, it was just slang for "ok", "right" or "alright"..... Examples: Ghost in the Machine Feb 2014 #8
Exactly. zappaman Feb 2014 #11
Good to see you, zappaman! Yeah, it was slang that could mean about anything you wanted it to.. Ghost in the Machine Feb 2014 #15
much more likely explanation reddread Feb 2014 #9
Fuckin Abbit is right. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #10
Canute goes back somewhat further. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #12
Hehe LittleBlue Feb 2014 #14
Non exhuastive list of various usages here dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #16

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
1. I though we got that word from the Dutch...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:35 PM
Feb 2014

what is the earliest historical reference in that language?

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
8. Back in my day, it was just slang for "ok", "right" or "alright"..... Examples:
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:46 PM
Feb 2014

Q: "Hey dude, are we going to see Van Halen next week?"
A: "Fuckin' A dude, you know that shit's right!!"

"I just scored a sweet 4 finger bag of some orange haired sinsemillia for $25 bucks, man!"
"Fuckin' A dude! Light some of that shit up and let's check it out!!

I'm giving my age away, but I remember when a 1/4 oz was a nickle bag, and a sandwich bag filled 4 fingers deep was $20 to $30, depending on quality.... and that was GOOD quality! Mexican dirt weed was $10 for a 4 finger bag. Of course, this was also Miami in 1981, right about the birth time of the "Cocaine Cowboy" era, but "Fuckin' A" had been used in my circle since we were 12-13 years old.

Peace,

Ghost

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
15. Good to see you, zappaman! Yeah, it was slang that could mean about anything you wanted it to..
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:07 PM
Feb 2014

Hope all is well with you and yours...

Peace,

Ghost

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