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What is the point of Valentines day? (Original Post) Harmony Blue Feb 2014 OP
There is money to be made! Paulie Feb 2014 #1
Hallmark holiday. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #2
..and candy company, stuff animal, flower, jewelry maker holiday Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #65
Selling greeting cards, mostly. bemildred Feb 2014 #3
I bet Hallmark and Hershey's were in on it. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2014 #7
Depends on the definition of friendly, if you know what I mean. aikoaiko Feb 2014 #4
You can run around yelling "Happy VD, Happy VD". Scuba Feb 2014 #5
Selling shit get the red out Feb 2014 #6
To make De Beers more $$ from the 1% (and Hallmark & various chocolatiers $$ from the rest of us) hlthe2b Feb 2014 #8
One kinda romantic day a year HappyMe Feb 2014 #9
yeah, but I prefer....... lastlib Feb 2014 #58
Big Flower, Big Candy. Big Hallmark! longship Feb 2014 #10
Intercourse jsr Feb 2014 #11
Truffles Solly Mack Feb 2014 #12
Seems to beg the question-- why not dedicate a day to this? LanternWaste Feb 2014 #13
Thank you. redqueen Feb 2014 #20
To be a foil for flamin lib Feb 2014 #14
Sell flowers and cards liberal N proud Feb 2014 #15
to atone...next year, of course Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #16
Hey, I like my roses! MoonRiver Feb 2014 #17
Sales. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #18
Selling jewelry, flowers, candy and cards. nt City Lights Feb 2014 #19
It's Valentines day? Neoma Feb 2014 #21
Nope, this Friday. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #25
I took roses to Jeannies' office today. panader0 Feb 2014 #22
Yea, but we don't..not all of us anyway. Buy a Valentine card, buy yummy chocolate, give it to Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #23
It will be a sad one for me this year Mojorabbit Feb 2014 #24
So sorry..that has to be painful. I bet those you send flowers to will appreciate it..I hope Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #26
Sorry to hear that yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #28
I'm so sorry, but so glad you've started a nice tradition hopefully. nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2014 #33
flower shops get all the breaks hfojvt Feb 2014 #38
That is such a sweet thing to do. I am sorry for you loss. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #50
To get a free steak dinner at the Texas Cattle Company! L0oniX Feb 2014 #27
It's to remind single people like me how pathetic we are. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #29
I could hug you for that hfojvt Feb 2014 #36
Please do. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #62
Do you have any single girlfriends? JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #45
I like your attitude. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #61
Your welcome! JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #63
YUP Boomerproud Feb 2014 #49
Because people need reminders - it's human nature el_bryanto Feb 2014 #30
No day has any point Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #31
It's a fun way to bully elementary school kids into approved gender roles! Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #32
Hallmark et al. Brainwashed populace! Love one another, never mind the cards. Paper Roses Feb 2014 #34
according to Charlie Brown - the point is to gloat hfojvt Feb 2014 #35
To buy hearts for NuclearDem! NuclearDem Feb 2014 #37
For-profit commercialization of a mating ritual LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #39
Commercialism. Rex Feb 2014 #40
It's a tool that the patriarchy uses to maintain control. Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #41
Roughly the same as Christmas, shall we say? malthaussen Feb 2014 #42
An excuse for the hubby and I to go out to dinner eissa Feb 2014 #43
I completely understand where you are coming from. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #55
Because it's fun JustAnotherGen Feb 2014 #44
Capitalism found its angle. This is how we recognize St Valentines Day, Quantess Feb 2014 #46
My husband and I don't celebrate Valentine's Day. There's just no need to. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #47
There is money to be made. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #48
I think it is a centuries old plot make me depressed Siwsan Feb 2014 #51
The purpose is... arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #52
What's the point of anything? Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #53
smack singles across the face tabbycat31 Feb 2014 #54
It is a bonifide Consumerist holiday, designed to iprove Corporate profits. Cha-Ching, baby. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #56
My husband and I will stay home. MerryBlooms Feb 2014 #57
It is so DUers can spread the love around by giving out hearts. longship Feb 2014 #59
We are supposed to love, be friendly, and treat everyone fairly everyday -- but Raine1967 Feb 2014 #60
Nylon sales Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2014 #64
... Blame the Church.. and Chaucer. opiate69 Feb 2014 #66

Solly Mack

(90,766 posts)
12. Truffles
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:02 PM
Feb 2014



and getting a little something special helps people to feel good. Even if only for that day.

Also, the money....it's a huge moneymaker for makers of candies/cards/flowers/jewelry, etc.

But mostly it is the truffles....for me anyway.

(it's the only time I indulge)



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Seems to beg the question-- why not dedicate a day to this?
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:03 PM
Feb 2014

"Why dedicate a day to do this?"

Seems to beg the question-- why not dedicate a day to this?

What negative cultural or social consequences arise from it? If nothing, then the day is, at worst, merely benign-- as showcasing a day to celebrate or ennoble X does not in any way, imply that X should only be recognized on that day?

Seems no more, nor no less sinister than using Halloween as an excuse to have a party with friends-- which also in no way implies that parties with friends should be denied on any other day...


"Aren't we supposed to love, be friendly, and treat everyone fairly everyday?"
Who specifically is telling you otherwise? If no one, then you may see the answer to that query among the obvious.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
20. Thank you.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:32 PM
Feb 2014

Romantic gestures need not cost anything. Why so many get so bent out of shape over this holiday is beyond me.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
22. I took roses to Jeannies' office today.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:35 PM
Feb 2014

She said it irks the guys who work there (mostly sales staff) that I deliver in person. So this year, I took them early, just to piss them off.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
23. Yea, but we don't..not all of us anyway. Buy a Valentine card, buy yummy chocolate, give it to
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:37 PM
Feb 2014

someone you care for...it's a nice day.


Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
24. It will be a sad one for me this year
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:37 PM
Feb 2014

My husband passed in Dec. I am starting a new tradition and sending flowers to all my single and /or widowed friends and family this year.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
26. So sorry..that has to be painful. I bet those you send flowers to will appreciate it..I hope
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

they send some for you too.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
38. flower shops get all the breaks
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:11 PM
Feb 2014

Dang, why can't you send them BOOKS on Valentine's day?

p.s. I used to have a bookstore next to a flower shop. And it seems to me like they had it made. What with Valentine's Day, mother's day, graduation, Easter, weddings, funerals. People drop $20, $30, or $40 on flowers that will be dead in three days. But oh how they howl about a book that costs $6.99.

Although the flower store later went out of business, and were replaced by - another bookstore (I had closed my own three years earlier, sold the building to a stockbroker). It was a bookstore that also sold wine, but at least the drug habit was suppporting some books.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
45. Do you have any single girlfriends?
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:54 PM
Feb 2014

We all used to get together and go out for VDay. I'm thinking of throwing an impromptu cocktail party this Friday (all of the housewarming liquor gifts make this easy) for our single friends. For us V Day is cheap little goofy gifts and a dessert so it's not a 'sacred day' for us - we are loving every day.


Maybe you could reach out to people and do a little appie and wine thing for a few hours on Friday night?

I'm not being flippant - but I was single for 36 years and I kind of enjoyed it. I know that seems odd in this day and age but marriage is not the be all and end all. Just a step on the journey IF one so choose.

You are NOT pathetic. I'd say for every 'happily married and/or coupled' couple -there are 5 couples in absolute utter loveless hell with one another. Better to be single and living a grand life than a smug married and well - sorry. Don't let the smug marrieds and smug coupled get you down!

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
30. Because people need reminders - it's human nature
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:43 PM
Feb 2014

So you have holidays to celebrate values and rededicate yourself too them. Also the greeting card companies like money.

Bryant

Shivering Jemmy

(900 posts)
31. No day has any point
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:44 PM
Feb 2014

People give them meaning. A large group of people have assigned valentines day a particular meeting.

Obviously you are not bound to accept this meaning.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
32. It's a fun way to bully elementary school kids into approved gender roles!
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

While making money for Hallmark and Hershey's.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
34. Hallmark et al. Brainwashed populace! Love one another, never mind the cards.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:03 PM
Feb 2014

I have told my children for years that I do not want them to send cards on any holiday except my birthday. I strongly feel that we have been conditioned to believe that cards are a must...or we do not care.

Save your money, call or send an email to loved one. Let them know that Hallmark and the rest of the card people should not have their hard earned dollars.

Maybe I'm just an old grouch but I'd rather friends and family buy food or pay a bill than spend real dollars on a card.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
35. according to Charlie Brown - the point is to gloat
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:04 PM
Feb 2014

Charlie Brown - "I already know that nobody likes me. Why does there have to be a Valentine's day to rub it in?"


And on Valentine's day, you are not, in the imagery of Mr. Rosewater, supposed to stand on a street corner handing out pieces of toilet paper that say "I love you" on them.

You are supposed to do something special for the ONE or TWO people that you love.

I would have said just ONE, but I keep getting Valentine cards from my mom. And I keep telling her "the prom was a long time ago, get over it already."

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
41. It's a tool that the patriarchy uses to maintain control.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:20 PM
Feb 2014

Buying roses for a lady is the ultimate in "benevolent sexism".

malthaussen

(17,195 posts)
42. Roughly the same as Christmas, shall we say?
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:22 PM
Feb 2014

Another holiday where we are supposed to love, be friendly, etc...

-- Mal

eissa

(4,238 posts)
43. An excuse for the hubby and I to go out to dinner
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:23 PM
Feb 2014

No cards, no flowers (I love them, but they're a waste of money.) When you got kids, any excuse to get that rare date night out is one I'll take! Not about gloating, not about supporting business (aside from the locally-owned restaurant I've made reservations at.) Pretty simple.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
55. I completely understand where you are coming from.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:18 PM
Feb 2014

We used to do the same thing when our kids were small.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
44. Because it's fun
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:48 PM
Feb 2014

It doesn't mean anything more than St. Patricks day or Halloween.

It's just for fun. No one holds a gun to peoples' heads and forces them to participate.

My birthday is February 13th - so ask me how I REALLY felt about Valentines Day as a kid when teachers always made me bring in the heart shaped shit . . . the day after my birthday!

But - I married a man of troubadours and romance and heart space and if he likes us finding goofy shit (limit no more than $15) to give each other on V Day because it is FUN offends anyone -

They can just be glad they aren't married to him!

I signed up for it and have to play along and it's not hurting anyone in the long run so why not? It's fun.

And this year he's getting handcuffs so it will be LOTS and LOTS of fun!


ETA - and nope we don't have to do those things to others every day of the year - JUST our love interest. I'm not for 'universal' love and I believe in romantic/eros love - I'm sorry.


I love my husband more than any other person and no one is equal to him in my heart.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
46. Capitalism found its angle. This is how we recognize St Valentines Day,
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:57 PM
Feb 2014

because we are fed daily advertising that we need to spend and buy in order to get love.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
47. My husband and I don't celebrate Valentine's Day. There's just no need to.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:04 PM
Feb 2014

We show each other how much we love one another every single day. Last night we spontaneously decided we needed a date night, so we had our 19 yr old cook dinner for the household and we went out and I won't mention what we did this morning. This weekend we probably won't do anything. In fact we'll probably watch a family movie on Netflix that we can all watch together, and that will be it. No jewelry, no candy, no flowers, no candle light dinners, no special day. Don't need them.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
51. I think it is a centuries old plot make me depressed
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

But, perhaps I'm taking it a little too personal???

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
56. It is a bonifide Consumerist holiday, designed to iprove Corporate profits. Cha-Ching, baby.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:21 PM
Feb 2014

This is from 2006, but it gives you the scope of what Valentines is really about.


Valentine’s Day – A Business Perspective
There are four major holidays in the shopping calendar: Christmas, Valentine’s Day, Easter and Halloween. Valentine’s Day is celebrated by 84% of Canadians and of those, 60.9% spent an average of $100.89 per person on a gift for their significant other in 2006. In 2007 this is expected to go down to $97.27. 43% of those celebrating will buy a gift for other family and friends. The average Canadian male will spend $135.67, while females will spend only $68.64.

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
57. My husband and I will stay home.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:21 PM
Feb 2014

A little wine, candles... I'll make a nice dinner (he asked for meatloaf and chocolate pie) and we'll set the table with his parents' wedding china. Nothing extravagant or expensive, but we're looking forward to it. The last few months have been kind of wild, so it'll be nice just concentrating on us for a change.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
60. We are supposed to love, be friendly, and treat everyone fairly everyday -- but
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:36 PM
Feb 2014

many don't. This is a good reminder for those that forget.

Besides, why not have a special day?

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