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marmar

(77,078 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 12:02 PM Feb 2014

There Is A Huge Underground Farm Hiding 100 Feet Beneath London's Streets



There Is A Huge Underground Farm Hiding 100 Feet Beneath London's Streets
It's hard to find enough space for urban farms to grow enough local produce to feed a big city. Unless you put the whole farm below in an abandoned tunnel.




The newest branch line of the London Underground doesn't go anywhere. But it does produce a lot of nice food to eat. It's an aquaponic farm, 100 feet below the surface, set to open this March.

With sky-high rents in central London, it made sense for the startup behind the project, Zero Carbon Food, to look for an unconventional farm site. And the location, beneath the Northern line, puts the produce near a lot of restaurant customers. That reduces the miles that food has to travel to reach the table. Zero Carbon Food is now selling stock online--you can see its full pitch below:



The 2.5 acre project relies on its location in a tunnel to reduce heating and cooling costs. The temperature stays stable at 60 degrees all year round. There aren't many airborne pests to worry about either. A simple filter takes out any nasties, and lets the produce--which includes pea shoots, rocket, broccoli, mustard leaf and basil--grow without pesticides. .................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.fastcoexist.com/3025875/there-is-a-huge-underground-farm-hiding-100-feet-beneath-londons-streets



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There Is A Huge Underground Farm Hiding 100 Feet Beneath London's Streets (Original Post) marmar Feb 2014 OP
The Mole People will luv this Berlum Feb 2014 #1
But maybe now the Morlocks will not need to eat the Eloi! csziggy Feb 2014 #7
More like this, in the U.S.A, I'm afraid... hunter Feb 2014 #24
Or this: Hissyspit Feb 2014 #38
or this... Javaman Feb 2014 #39
This is how the morlocks really started chrisa Feb 2014 #8
Hum, NYC has a lot of underground tunnels. jwirr Feb 2014 #2
Funny you mention that, I was just reading this article this morning justiceischeap Feb 2014 #3
Fascinating!! Control-Z Feb 2014 #17
Wow, haven't thought about that in years. R Merm Feb 2014 #18
Not only that, there's the Lowline project... JHB Feb 2014 #19
I have to admit, when I read the article justiceischeap Feb 2014 #21
like the soda bottle skylights. alfredo Feb 2014 #26
That's what came to my mind when I read the OP. I love Highline Park. cui bono Feb 2014 #32
WOW! This is NEAT, JHB! calimary Feb 2014 #34
And thus begins the division of humanity TlalocW Feb 2014 #4
Exactly my thought! n/t TygrBright Feb 2014 #5
"If I have to eat one more bowl of kale..." Ikonoklast Feb 2014 #10
Nice! oldandhappy Feb 2014 #6
It's a great idea. geardaddy Feb 2014 #9
"We'll be producing Herbs, micro-Herbs …" SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2014 #11
"Micro-Herbs?" Jackpine Radical Feb 2014 #12
Armies of them ... SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2014 #23
when I was a kid herb tarlick was the middle aged loser AngryAmish Feb 2014 #31
I was picturing livestock put under for the hoy poloy come doomsday toby jo Feb 2014 #13
But you need electricity to supply artificial light Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #14
Solar and wind power might help. alfredo Feb 2014 #15
Powered by the Unemployed! solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #22
We can harvest the energy of pedestrians as they walk down sidewalks, and cars as alfredo Feb 2014 #25
that light gets expencive Lordquinton Feb 2014 #37
Yes, to all that!! Yo_Mama Feb 2014 #41
yay aquaponics onethatcares Feb 2014 #16
The Jam…a new single..hopefully, maybe... Tikki Feb 2014 #20
A Town Called Lettuce marmar Feb 2014 #29
tee hee…. Tikki Feb 2014 #30
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2014 #27
Great idea and concept. democratisphere Feb 2014 #28
Selling STOCK? That's Bullshit Upward Feb 2014 #33
Welcome to DU, Upward! calimary Feb 2014 #36
Great stuff, marmar! Thanks for posting. calimary Feb 2014 #35
ASIDE FROM JOKES, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT drynberg Feb 2014 #40

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
3. Funny you mention that, I was just reading this article this morning
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 12:21 PM
Feb 2014
http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/5/5280920/tunnel-vision-bob-diamond-fights-for-the-atlantic-avenue-subway

The Atlantic Avenue Tunnel was sealed in 1861, shortly after Brooklyn banned steam locomotives within city limits. Legend has it that the tunnel was reopened in the 1920s when it was used for mushroom growing and bootlegging, and in the 1940s when the FBI opened it looking for Nazis. But soon after, it was lost. In the 1950s two historians attempted to find it and failed.

When Diamond rediscovered the tunnel in 1980, he was just a 20-year-old engineering student on a scholarship. The media made him a hero. He decided to restore the tunnel for the city instead of taking an engineering job. Gradually he built a career — and an identity — around the 169-year-old underpass.

R Merm

(405 posts)
18. Wow, haven't thought about that in years.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:44 PM
Feb 2014

Volunteered with Diamond back in the early 1980's when he first started running tours down in the tunnel. It truly was an interesting place.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
19. Not only that, there's the Lowline project...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:49 PM
Feb 2014

NYC's Highline is an elevated park built on the bed of a defunct rail line.

The Lowline project proposes to do something similar with an underground trolley terminal
http://www.thelowline.org/




justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
21. I have to admit, when I read the article
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:52 PM
Feb 2014

I wondered what the city had in mind for the space. They were fine with him doing this for a couple of decades but suddenly the neighborhood is looking up and they don't want him to have anything to do with it anymore. But, that's the cynic in me.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
32. That's what came to my mind when I read the OP. I love Highline Park.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:14 AM
Feb 2014

I tried to go back a second time to take my friends but it was closed due to snow.

I look forward to checking out Lowline when it opens.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
6. Nice!
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 12:51 PM
Feb 2014

Great use of space and can avoid pesticides. Do not know cost of grow lights, but hey, no transportation or a/c or furnace. Seems really reasonable. Good for you London folk.

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
9. It's a great idea.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 12:56 PM
Feb 2014

What about more than just restaurant customers though? That seems like it might be going to the upper levels of the income bracket rather than the folks who might need fresh veggies.

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
11. "We'll be producing Herbs, micro-Herbs …"
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 01:40 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:45 PM - Edit history (1)

What about Maurys, Verns and Bruces.

(Sorry, couldn't resist).

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
13. I was picturing livestock put under for the hoy poloy come doomsday
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 02:16 PM
Feb 2014

Wonder if they have them in all of our underground tunnels for our wicked mighty in the case of
catastrohe? Hogs, chickens, cattle, fields of pasture to graze and hay to be made? I'll bet they do. Fish farms, seeds, a regular noah's ark down there I'll bet.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
14. But you need electricity to supply artificial light
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 02:24 PM
Feb 2014

which hardly makes it zero carbon.

Might be useful later on for space colonies, though. A good project.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
22. Powered by the Unemployed!
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:58 PM
Feb 2014

Every Kilowatt Counts



From "Fifteen Million Merits" - a Black Mirror episode

Black Mirror: The twilight zone for the 21st century. A mind blower.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
25. We can harvest the energy of pedestrians as they walk down sidewalks, and cars as
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 07:37 PM
Feb 2014

the drive down the street.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
37. that light gets expencive
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 04:24 AM
Feb 2014

and if it's truly aquaponics, then a lot of energy goes into the fish as well, and if you ever loose power, then you're screwed. Also takes a lot of water, and they are only growing little things.

It's a cool idea, but is not the ideal that they are claiming.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
41. Yes, to all that!!
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:12 AM
Feb 2014

But it may prove to lay the groundwork for ag in isolated biospheres.

Not to make use of the sun's power source for Earth ag just doesn't make sense.

onethatcares

(16,167 posts)
16. yay aquaponics
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 02:57 PM
Feb 2014

you can grow in as small an area as your closet and I don't mean growing cannabis either.

I have two grow beds started, just doing lettuce and strawberries until I get the cycling done.

Then watch out, I'll be putting tomatos/peppers and whatever else I can fit into the beds.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
20. The Jam…a new single..hopefully, maybe...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:51 PM
Feb 2014

"Growing Underground"

For The Jam fans, of course…




Tikki

Upward

(115 posts)
33. Selling STOCK? That's Bullshit
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:20 AM
Feb 2014

Sell CSAs. No one needs corporate-grown and controlled food. Except corporations.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
36. Welcome to DU, Upward!
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:20 AM
Feb 2014

Good to have you with us. Just another reason to do more of this, seems to me. Much more. So it's much more widely available. Keep the bad guys from cornering the market.

calimary

(81,222 posts)
35. Great stuff, marmar! Thanks for posting.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:18 AM
Feb 2014

This is fascinating! And I love this "recycling" project - finding a whole new use for an abandoned tunnel. WUNNNNderful!!!

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
40. ASIDE FROM JOKES, THIS IS SIGNIFICANT
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:03 AM
Feb 2014

I do agree that CSAs would be 100% better than "stocks" and the "corporate way", but it is still significant. Now, to multiply this world wide by 1000s of times very quickly...as time's a wastin' and so is our environment.

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