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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:48 PM Feb 2014

An Obamacare enrollment trend to strike fear in the heart of Republicans

An Obamacare enrollment trend to strike fear in the heart of Republicans

by Joan McCarter

Enrollments continue to be robust for Obamacare. With a month and a half to go in open enrollment, 3.3 million are now enrolled, with a third of them signing up in January alone. That puts enrollments at 75 percent of the administration's target for this point in time, set before the disastrous rollout of the website in October. So they're catching up, and include an uptick in younger customers.

Administration officials said they were pleased with the numbers. “These encouraging trends show that more Americans are enrolling every day, and finding quality, affordable coverage in the marketplace,” said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services.

“The covered population is getting younger,” Ms. Sebelius said. In January, 318,000 people age 18 to 34 selected health plans, bringing the total in this age group to 807,500, officials said.

That tracks the Massachusetts model: older, sicker people signed up early, everyone else tagged along. Analysts expect to see a surge in younger enrollees between now and March 31, the deadline for signing up.

The states that are leading enrollment are those that set up their own exchanges: Vermont leads with 52.4 percent total enrolled of eligible population; Washington, 47.3 percent total enrolled; Rhode Island, 37 percent total enrolled; Kentucky, 33.5 percent total enrolled; and Connecticut, 29.6 percent totaled enrolled. All of these states also expanded Medicaid, and those new beneficiaries make up the majority of new enrollees. The worst states: Hawaii, which has had continuing problems with getting a functioning website; and four red states, Mississippi, South Dakota, Oklahoma, and Louisiana.

Here's a statistic that should help the popularity of the law: four-fifths of these enrollees got help paying for these premiums. There's something else for Republicans to worry about.

For now, though, they're dismissing the numbers. Despite the rousing success of the law in Kentucky, Sen. Mitch McConnell sniffs that it doesn't really count because "'the new enrollees in Obamacare exchange plans are actually folks who were already insured or eligible for Medicaid." You keep thinking that, Mitch. That's the ticket.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/13/1277332/-An-Obamacare-enrollment-trend-to-strike-fear-in-the-heart-of-nbsp-Republicans


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An Obamacare enrollment trend to strike fear in the heart of Republicans (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2014 OP
Mitch: Na na na, hey-ey, Good bye! Your ship has sailed. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #1
Kick! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #12
Kick! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #2
...and the heart of FUD here on DU... uponit7771 Feb 2014 #3
But how many have actually paid? BKH70041 Feb 2014 #4
Wait ProSense Feb 2014 #5
At best BKH70041 Feb 2014 #6
Maybe ProSense Feb 2014 #7
Just answer the question BKH70041 Feb 2014 #8
Well, ProSense Feb 2014 #9
Ah, so that's it. BKH70041 Feb 2014 #10
Yes, that's it. ProSense Feb 2014 #11
17,000 People Will Die Uninsured in Red States Because GOP Leaders Refused Medicaid Expansion napkinz Feb 2014 #17
you are not counting the people aged 18-25 who are Motown_Johnny Feb 2014 #14
So then...somebody bought the Republicans hearts? Kurovski Feb 2014 #13
"Robust"! Do we not like that adjective Cha Feb 2014 #15
Can Republicans do a 180 by November? gulliver Feb 2014 #16

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
2. Kick!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:08 PM
Feb 2014

My youngest niece is one of the. The others had employer based insurance, while she did not!

“The covered population is getting younger,” Ms. Sebelius said. In January, 318,000 people age 18 to 34 selected health plans, bringing the total in this age group to 807,500, officials said.


Looking good! Thanks ProSense.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
4. But how many have actually paid?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:21 PM
Feb 2014

The highest reliable estimates I've seen is 80%, but no one really knows for sure. And there's a chance HHS is double counting those who failed to meet the mid-January deadline and are trying to apply again.

I'll wait until I see how many actually make their first premium payment. Kinda pregnant just never worked for me.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Wait
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:50 PM
Feb 2014

"But how many have actually paid? The highest reliable estimates I've seen is 80%, but no one really knows for sure....I'll wait until I see how many actually make their first premium payment. Kinda pregnant just never worked for me."

...you've seen "reliable estimates" of 80 percent?

That's friggin excellent.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
6. At best
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:10 PM
Feb 2014

So they've only reached 75% of where they hoped to be where, maybe at best, 80% have paid? Maybe. Less than impressive. 75% of target doesn't cut it at all.

And where's the 40 million that were just clawing at a chance to have healthcare coverage? Many told us they couldn't wait; they were going to fall over dead in the streets any day now without it. 40 million couldn't live without it anymore, and only 3.3 million have enrolled?

Excuses.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
7. Maybe
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:13 PM
Feb 2014

"And where's the 40 million that were just clawing at a chance to have healthcare coverage? Many told us they couldn't wait; they were going to fall over dead in the streets any day now without it. 40 million couldn't live without it anymore, and only 3.3 million have enrolled?"

...people really don't want health care. Maybe the Republicans are right. Are you snarking the fact that people die without health care?

"they were going to fall over dead in the streets any day now without it"

WTF?

BKH70041

(961 posts)
8. Just answer the question
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:20 PM
Feb 2014

Where's the 40 million that couldn't wait another day? Over 90% who couldn't wait haven't even showed up.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
9. Well,
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

"Just answer the question

Where's the 40 million that couldn't wait another day? Over 90% who couldn't wait haven't even showed up."

...they're signing up despite those who are still trying to destroy and disparage Obamacare.

Here's a fact: It took Medicare 20 years to reach 30 million.

If you find the RW callousness appealing, here:

PA Gov. Tom Corbett killed 4 people today
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/12/1277150/-PA-Gov-Tom-Corbett-killed-4-people-today

BKH70041

(961 posts)
10. Ah, so that's it.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:40 PM
Feb 2014

"Well, they're signing up"

For something that couldn't wait they sure are taking their sweet time about it.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
17. 17,000 People Will Die Uninsured in Red States Because GOP Leaders Refused Medicaid Expansion
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:05 PM
Feb 2014




Simone Sanner
February 6, 2014

Dr. Steffie Woolhandler is co-author of the new study Opting Out Of Medicaid Expansion: the Health And Financial Impacts. The new study just released has found up to 17,000 people will die as a result of the refusal of red state governors to participate in expanded Medicaid programs.

There are 8 million people who will not receive coverage under the new law that are eligible for it. Of that 8 million, as many as 17,000 people will die having not gotten the medical care those in blue states have access to. Another 750,000 will suffer from untreated depression, diabetics will not have access to medication, and women will not have access to pap smears and mammograms.

Woolhandler attributes this to a political move on the part of red state governors, as the program is 100% completely funded by the federal government for the first three years. After those three years have passed, 90% of the costs will be funded by the federal government.

States making the investment in their people will see an approximate 50% reduction in the number of people without any health insurance whatsoever.

read more: http://aattp.org/17000-people-will-die-uninsured-in-red-states-because-gop-leaders-refused-medicaid-expansion/



 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. you are not counting the people aged 18-25 who are
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:36 PM
Feb 2014

on their parent's plans.


That 3.3 million number is only people who have used the government exchanges in the past few months.


A more reasonable estimate for everyone who now has health care due to the ACA is more like 10 million.



If the Supreme Court had not changed the law, and if (R)s had not sacrificed their own constituents, that number would be much higher. Unfortunately, the red states not expanding Medicaid is keeping the number of uninsured much higher than it should be.


This will take several more years to shake out. Considering that some basic health care as a right was first proposed by Teddy Roosevelt roughly a hundred years ago, a few more years isn't that big a deal. It sure is better than not passing reform. That terrible Nixon/(R) system that we had been forced to live under was completely dysfunctional.


gulliver

(13,180 posts)
16. Can Republicans do a 180 by November?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:11 PM
Feb 2014

I doubt it. And no one is going to forget that Republicans shut down the government to try to stop the ACA anyway.

It's out there now, and if you aren't directly benefiting from it, you know someone you care about who is. It's as over as it can be. As we get closer to November, Obamacare is going to become a political Excalibur for the Dems.

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