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CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:09 PM Feb 2014

Al Franken Drops the Hammer on the Comcast Time-Warner Deal

Senator Franken does it again. The Democratic Minnesota Senator has created a track record of being one of few lonely voices for the people in DC. Today Senator Franken dropped the hammer on the Comcast Time-Warner merger, saying that the deal needs careful scrutiny. Franken wants federal regulators to protect consumers and act quickly on Comcast’s $40 billion dollar purchase of Time-Warner.

In a letter to the Department of Justice, the Federal Trade Commission, and the Federal Communications Commission, Franken said the move could be bad for consumers by driving up cable rates, “I have serious reservations about this proposed transaction, which would consolidate the largest and second largest cable providers in America. I urge you to act quickly and decisively to ensure that consumers are not exposed to increased cable prices and decreased quality of service as a result of this transaction.”

Franken observed that customers are already paying high bills for unsatisfactory service, “Unfortunately, a handful of cable providers dominate the market, leaving consumers with little choice but to pay high bills for often unsatisfactory service.”

Citing rising cable rates, Franken reminded the DOJ, FTC and FCC that Comcast recently acquired NBC Universal, and any further merger would give Comcast too much control over television content.

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/13/al-franken-drops-hammer-comcast-time-warner-deal.html

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Al Franken Drops the Hammer on the Comcast Time-Warner Deal (Original Post) CatWoman Feb 2014 OP
you go Al! k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #1
Cut the Cable Berlum Feb 2014 #2
We did that a few months ago and feel GREAT about it. Whisp Feb 2014 #15
+++! 3 years and don't miss it 1 bit. Much beer and travel money saved. adirondacker Feb 2014 #28
Yes, we feel Great about it, too -- and do not miss it Berlum Feb 2014 #37
What do you use for internet service? Samantha Feb 2014 #66
I have my comp for the internet and a Roku box for the tv Whisp Feb 2014 #67
I'm thinking about going cable-less. Got a Roku question, tho... Beartracks Feb 2014 #71
Roku streams other content flying rabbit Feb 2014 #72
A Hulu sub? Beartracks Feb 2014 #73
Actually its a hulu plus subscription flying rabbit Feb 2014 #74
Oh, sub = subscription! <facepalm> ... Beartracks Feb 2014 #76
Damn! heaven05 Feb 2014 #23
I thought so too, until I realized that is a tail ;) adirondacker Feb 2014 #30
I wish I could. the present Time Warner Cable is the only telecom company here. mwooldri Feb 2014 #41
That just got harder to do derby378 Feb 2014 #52
They can't deny you access to a satellite dish erronis Feb 2014 #92
Doesn't help when it's your only choice of internet providers other than DSL. alarimer Feb 2014 #57
I disagree. Timez Squarez Feb 2014 #65
I agree. My Comcast performance has been all over the map lately BlueStreak Feb 2014 #101
We've been off of cable defacto7 Feb 2014 #77
Same here, Cable became obsolete in our house Heather MC Feb 2014 #89
great talent for painting mixed with great talent for biting critique navarth Feb 2014 #88
where did you get that baby picture of Rush Lumpbaugh? mdbl Feb 2014 #98
Driving up rates AND controlling access to content. Why is Al so alone? Scuba Feb 2014 #3
Public apathy and insider corruption -- a deadly combination Armstead Feb 2014 #9
...and 95 other bought-off Senators, along w/ DOJ anti-trust,... lastlib Feb 2014 #75
NYT also reports that Obama and Cohen (from Comcast) are golfing partners eilen Feb 2014 #86
Nice sentiment, but not much of a hammer. X_Digger Feb 2014 #4
that's a bad thing? CatWoman Feb 2014 #16
No, not a bad thing.. just not 'dropping the hammer'. X_Digger Feb 2014 #29
yeah, how could I interfere CatWoman Feb 2014 #35
Wha huh? X_Digger Feb 2014 #36
"It does nobody any good to be so hyperbolic." 2banon Feb 2014 #79
THANK YOU. I see nothing here that will stop this deal, woo me with science Feb 2014 #53
Yeah, I'm scratching my head here.. X_Digger Feb 2014 #56
"Ooh, reservations! Ouch! That'll leave a mark." 2banon Feb 2014 #81
THANK YOU! snot Feb 2014 #99
Yeah, the subject line is sort of inaccurate Doctor_J Feb 2014 #96
That does it! calimary Feb 2014 #5
Why should it affect rates? thesquanderer Feb 2014 #6
geographic exclusivity is the problem questionseverything Feb 2014 #10
+1 a whole bunch. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #32
It has the potential to affect rates because NBC/TimeWarner will get preference in programming. haele Feb 2014 #11
Telecommunications Act of 1996 Whisp Feb 2014 #17
And another reason to be opposed to a Hillary presidency. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #34
That's when i really lost faith in the Clinton Democrat Wing Armstead Feb 2014 #43
Yep. Have said for years that Clinton was the best Republican President of my lifetime. SomeGuyInEagan Feb 2014 #93
Thank you Whisp! Left Coast2020 Feb 2014 #69
Whether one company should have that much power over ALL electronic communication is the problem Armstead Feb 2014 #12
Instead of merging cable companies they should be breaking them up. I have had it with Comcast doc03 Feb 2014 #7
Cut the cable or take down that ugly satellite dish. totodeinhere Feb 2014 #8
Rabbit ears don't pick up the Internet Armstead Feb 2014 #14
Exactly durablend Feb 2014 #26
I have to pay for Internet but that's ONLY $45 underthematrix Feb 2014 #31
And they jack up the Internet prices if you don't bundle it with cable. subterranean Feb 2014 #33
exactly! shanti Feb 2014 #100
True, but depending on your location you might be able to get Internet totodeinhere Feb 2014 #62
not here. it's a choice between time warner, satellite internet or dial up. ejpoeta Feb 2014 #85
Satellite is better than dialup but it has very restrictive bandwidth caps and latency issues totodeinhere Feb 2014 #97
Sounds good. Unfortunatly I don't understand! Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #49
Huge mistake if that goes through. Baitball Blogger Feb 2014 #13
It's about MUCH MORE than rates... It's about the strangling of democracy by the overlords. Faryn Balyncd Feb 2014 #18
+1 El_Johns Feb 2014 #21
+1000000000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #68
And it ties directly with the net neutrality business BlueStreak Feb 2014 #102
Thank you Sen. Franken. We got what we wanted when we voted for you. jwirr Feb 2014 #19
It is way past time for these companies to become just a transporter and not a provider. A Simple Game Feb 2014 #20
But, but, but the free market is supposed to improve service and reduce costs. tclambert Feb 2014 #22
According to our overlords it is a free market durablend Feb 2014 #27
Thank you Senator Franken. K&R n/t myrna minx Feb 2014 #24
Yay for Al!! Love that guy. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #25
Time Warner? The guys who kill my internet late night and on weekends? aquart Feb 2014 #38
I hope this can be stopped. These mergers are ridiculous! tofuandbeer Feb 2014 #39
Mega buyouts: A buys B for $C. The cost of the buyout is paid by: SDjack Feb 2014 #40
Our masters fully intend for Comcast to have too much control over television content. loudsue Feb 2014 #42
I don't need cable illachick Feb 2014 #44
I hear you. november3rd Feb 2014 #47
Some people think "TV" will somehow exist on their computers when no-one watches cable anymore. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #45
Shit, it is even more goofy to think it will be permitted at all. The monopoly will just start TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #70
They won't touch Hulu durablend Feb 2014 #82
Absolutely. We have seen in every other realm that the avarice of the 1% is without bounds. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #84
A Modest Proposal november3rd Feb 2014 #46
That makes too much sense Armstead Feb 2014 #50
da plane da plane--welcome to fantasy island if you are looking at the telcos as a good alternative dembotoz Feb 2014 #48
"We Don't Care. We Don't Have To." Armstead Feb 2014 #51
That's Comcast's motto durablend Feb 2014 #54
here at least we have AT&T Broadband as an alternative CatWoman Feb 2014 #55
I'm so happy to have him as my Senator! Owl Feb 2014 #58
K & R !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #59
thank you mr Franken spanone Feb 2014 #60
NONSENSE. I see no hammer whatsoever. In fact, I see complicity and acquiescence. woo me with science Feb 2014 #61
+1 leftstreet Feb 2014 #64
^^^THIS^^^^^ 2banon Feb 2014 #80
We moved but we used to have Time Warner Politicalboi Feb 2014 #63
Franken's gone astray recently, but good to hear that he's not TOTALLY asleep at the switch today. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #78
Just donated to his campaign! Duppers Feb 2014 #83
Strongly-worded letter Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #87
hear, hear! Stellar Feb 2014 #90
singularity father founding Feb 2014 #91
If you thought TW was bad, wait till Comcast starts running things dogday Feb 2014 #94
We purchesed a ROKU babsbunny Feb 2014 #95
Comcast is vile siligut Feb 2014 #103
Economies of bullshit father founding Feb 2014 #104

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
2. Cut the Cable
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:20 PM
Feb 2014

Starve the Beast (R).
Save Money.
Set your mind free from corporate propaganda.

STARVE THE BEAST, INC. (R)


 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
15. We did that a few months ago and feel GREAT about it.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:48 PM
Feb 2014

It took us too long to realize we were paying way too much for GARBAGE TRASH RUBBISH.

Don't miss it one bit.

Highly recommend getting rid of that worthless expensive sink hole.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
37. Yes, we feel Great about it, too -- and do not miss it
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:34 PM
Feb 2014

There is a universe of content and untainted information. And the $$$$$ savings are great.

No withdrawal symptoms at all -- just pure, free joy.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
66. What do you use for internet service?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:59 PM
Feb 2014

The reason I ask is that I want to drop mine because I can't see paying the outrageous monthly bills for such poor television content. I had Comcast for 15 years (they had a monopoly in this area) and their customer service was atrocious. I couldn't wait to dump them. Verizon is better in that area, but for other reasons, I would like to find a new provider.

Sam

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
67. I have my comp for the internet and a Roku box for the tv
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:42 PM
Feb 2014

that lets me hook up with Netflix.

I used to have Netflix on the xBox but Microsoft wants a monthly payment for internet access through the box and that ticked me off big time (no other console, like Playstation ask for that extra fee, so I was told) so I went the Roku way - one time payment of about $70 for the box, really easy to set up, and now get access to quite a few free channels and ability to subscribe to Netflix just for what the fee they ask for and nothing more.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
71. I'm thinking about going cable-less. Got a Roku question, tho...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:29 PM
Feb 2014

Does Roku have it's own content, or is it just a device to allow streaming of others' content?

I have a Roku device, like a dongle that connects to the back of the TV. Haven't used it for anything except to test it a couple years ago to make sure it works.

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flying rabbit

(4,632 posts)
72. Roku streams other content
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:46 PM
Feb 2014

I don't have cable, and I have a Hulu sub on the Roku. More stuff to watch than I will ever have time for (plus its on demand). Its also hella cheaper than cable.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
73. A Hulu sub?
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:01 AM
Feb 2014

I currently have a Wii which is streaming the Netflix from my internet. I sort of assumed I could just set up a Hulu account and stream it over the Wii also. OR, I could stream both over the Roku dongle...

But what's a Hulu sub?

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flying rabbit

(4,632 posts)
74. Actually its a hulu plus subscription
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:05 AM
Feb 2014

you can't stream regular hulu over the roku. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
76. Oh, sub = subscription! <facepalm> ...
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:29 AM
Feb 2014

... Sorry. lol And Hulu Plus is what I'd probably do, so glad to hear that works.

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mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
41. I wish I could. the present Time Warner Cable is the only telecom company here.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:24 PM
Feb 2014

Well, I lie but AT&T want a fair chunk of money to get some copper wire to me. TWC have the cable in place. I have the best residential Internet access they have to offer, plus my employers contract with them for business Internet access (& phone) for work.

On edit: Without the cable, I'll become a professional job seeker. Having a decent wired Internet connection is essential for my work. 4G LTE won't cut it, even if it was available here.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
52. That just got harder to do
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:43 PM
Feb 2014

My apartment complex will no longer allow satellite dishes - it's either cable or whatever you can pull off the digital rabbit ears.

Sounds just a little too convenient in hindsight. Has Comcast been lobbying apartment landlords or something?

erronis

(15,241 posts)
92. They can't deny you access to a satellite dish
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:13 PM
Feb 2014

I don't have the specific FCC ruling in front of me but there is a section that says any apartment can mount an antenna as long as it stays within the apartment's boundaries, including a patio. I worked with a friend and made a major large DC complex back down when presented with the ruling. Let me know if you need a citation.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
57. Doesn't help when it's your only choice of internet providers other than DSL.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:59 PM
Feb 2014

And DSL is MUCH slower than cable internet.

So it's ALREADY basically a monopoly.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
65. I disagree.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:53 PM
Feb 2014

DSL line is yours, and yours only.

Cable is shared among maybe 100 other people or more sharing the same pipe, which degrades the service.

I'm on DSL, and I'm happy with my service.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
101. I agree. My Comcast performance has been all over the map lately
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:39 PM
Feb 2014

Some days it is really quick -- almost instantaneous with very high bit rates. Other days it seems more like the 56 baud modem days.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
77. We've been off of cable
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:47 AM
Feb 2014

satellite, TV of any kind for years... I don't even know how many. Whatever we entertain ourselves with is by specific choice through Internet, by DVD... or we read. Mostly we read.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
88. great talent for painting mixed with great talent for biting critique
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 09:49 AM
Feb 2014

...that's an incredible combination.

Who's the painter? I'd love to see more.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
75. ...and 95 other bought-off Senators, along w/ DOJ anti-trust,...
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:12 AM
Feb 2014

FCC, FTC, some others (state agencies, etc....). Oh, and Congressmen........

. .

eilen

(4,950 posts)
86. NYT also reports that Obama and Cohen (from Comcast) are golfing partners
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 09:43 AM
Feb 2014

And if you look at the firms representing and advising both parties, they are like a Who's Who of donors to both parties in legislative and executive branches. They are all expecting their cut.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
29. No, not a bad thing.. just not 'dropping the hammer'.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:16 PM
Feb 2014

It does nobody any good to be so hyperbolic.

This makes it sound like Sen Franken's taking decisive action. He isn't.

If he were on whatever committee it is that oversees such mergers, or whatever committee could launch hearings about it, etc etc- that would be decisive action.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
36. Wha huh?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

Has the senator taken some decisive action that this article doesn't mention?

I'm scratching my head here.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
79. "It does nobody any good to be so hyperbolic."
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:41 AM
Feb 2014

Exactly so. In full agreement.

It's bad enough that "news" media uses these kinds of headers obviously as hooks to get you to click, but why repeat that here? Seems to me if the facts doesn't speak for itself, then why bother posting it here in the first place? Except on the (numerous) occasions when a piece needs to be totally ripped apart, and the publisher exposed for the charlatans they are..


woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
53. THANK YOU. I see nothing here that will stop this deal,
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:45 PM
Feb 2014

or that moves toward marshalling any serious *attempt* to stop it. This is corporate Democratic lip service for PR purposes, while enabling this takeover.

Remember that Sen. Franken defends the NSA's mass surveillance, and he also supported SOPA and PIPA.

Weak requests for "regulation" from Democrats while they are simultaneously permitting this massive corporate consolidation and takeover of our media *AND* signalling that they will not take a stand for net neutrality....

We are watching the seizure of the internet by corporate interests, through their bought and paid for politicians. This is deadly serious. The US has now plummeted to 46th in terms of press freedoms. This corporate administration and the previous one have been systematically dismantling every remaining avenue for Americans to fight back against the corporate takeover of this country: our right to assemble and protest, our free press, private communication, protections for journalists and whistleblowers...

And now they are implementing corporate control of the internet. We lose our free and open internet...they succeed in establishing corporate control of our last free access to unfiltered information and communication...and we lose all hope of ever reclaiming this country.


Comcast, Time Warner execs have been big Obama/Dem supporters
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024494813

Obama administration signals it will not defend net neutrality.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024488178

Would Teddy Roosevelt have stood by while Comcast bought the internet?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024494701

110 years ago our president used the Sherman Act to DISMANTLE the trust that controlled RR lines...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4494306

Let's see.....Net neutrality is killed off. Then two largest cable/Intrnet companies merge
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024495645

US Plummets In Press Freedom Rankings
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024487392
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024488178







X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
56. Yeah, I'm scratching my head here..
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:57 PM
Feb 2014

All this 'rah rah rah' as though the Senator were leading a charge up San Juan Hill..

From the few quotes of the letter in the article, it's a mealy-mouthed sternly-worded letter, at that..

"“I have serious reservations about this proposed transaction,.."

Ooh, reservations! Ouch! That'll leave a mark.

snot

(10,524 posts)
99. THANK YOU!
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:11 PM
Feb 2014

Not to mention that Comcast has been caught censoring political speech.
And the more consolidated the ownership, the easier it is for them to do that and get away with it.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
96. Yeah, the subject line is sort of inaccurate
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 03:40 PM
Feb 2014

more like, "Franken dares to speak out against Big Media"

calimary

(81,252 posts)
5. That does it!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:33 PM
Feb 2014

I'm sending him a donation!

Doesn't anybody believe in trust-busting anymore? Hell, it was a hallmark of the then-Republican Party's standard-bearer, Teddy Roosevelt. Monopolies wind up being bad - for pretty much everybody. Even those who love, support, and protect them. Because eventually they get carried away and people like Al Franken start breathing down their necks and sending them to their Maalox bottles. Monopolies aren't good for ANYBODY.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
6. Why should it affect rates?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:34 PM
Feb 2014

The two companies don't compete with each other. AFAIK, there is nowhere where a consumer could choose between them. Their competitors are companies who deliver programming over phone lines (like Verizon FIOS), over satellite (like DirecTV)... a cable company merging with one of those would definitely be anti-competitive. But since cable TV has geographic exclusivity, whether there are 2 cable TV companies or 50 makes no difference.

Now, whether cable companies should have geographic exclusivity in the first place is a different question.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
10. geographic exclusivity is the problem
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:45 PM
Feb 2014

people like to attack capitalism but their is no free market in connection with the cable companies...if it was a free market, their would be competition

Comcast is obviously over charging or they could not be buying up everything in site

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
32. +1 a whole bunch.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

Besides, it would give Comcast too much control over content. We are already being subjected to wall to wall propaganda 24/7.

haele

(12,652 posts)
11. It has the potential to affect rates because NBC/TimeWarner will get preference in programming.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:45 PM
Feb 2014

And many competetitor channels may find themselves shuffled off to "specialty" programming where the customer has to pay more if they want to get that channel.
That already happens with Time Warner, which is why so many customers in Time Warner areas go to Dish or DirectTV (where there are still service issues) or pray that Verizon or AT&T won't continue to crap out every other month when they switch to phone service - because the phone lines haven't been updated and can't carry the bandwidth to support several devices at the same time (The AT&T and the Verizon service trucks are always in our neighborhood doing "repairs&quot .

As much as I hate cable companies, their price models, moronic bundling of services, and their geographic monopolies, thank goodness I have Cox and not Time Warner or Comcast...

Haele

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
17. Telecommunications Act of 1996
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:51 PM
Feb 2014

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Telecommunications Act of 1996[1] was the first significant overhaul of United States telecommunications law in more than sixty years, amending the Communications Act of 1934. The Act, signed by President Bill Clinton, represented a major change in American telecommunication law, since it was the first time that the Internet was included in broadcasting and spectrum allotment.[2] One of the most controversial titles was Title 3 ("Cable Services&quot , which allowed for media cross-ownership.[2] According to the FCC, the goal of the law was to "let anyone enter any communications business—to let any communications business compete in any market against any other".[3] The legislation's primary goal was deregulation of the converging broadcasting and telecommunications markets.[4]

--
thanks Bill, I'm sure your rich friends are still getting richer from this

SomeGuyInEagan

(1,515 posts)
93. Yep. Have said for years that Clinton was the best Republican President of my lifetime.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:33 PM
Feb 2014

But my lifetime includes Nixon, Ford, Reagan and the Bushes, so the bar for Republican Presidents was at a historic low (seriously, who - in 1973 - would have thought Nixon would not be the low point for Republican Presidents?).

Oh, to have an FDR or even an Eisenhower in the White House again, just for one term.

Left Coast2020

(2,397 posts)
69. Thank you Whisp!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:24 PM
Feb 2014

I have asked many times here, when, oh when are we going to push/have a shot at media reform?

I have even posted my petition (prior to my homeless situation) hoping there was a chance to get our airwaves back.

Thank gawd I can now (for the moment) listen to Big Ed or Thom Hartmann--which I haven't been able to do in several years. But hearing that L.A. lost KTLK, I worry our voices are being drowned out.

Can we at least try to get Bernie or Al to get the ball rolling?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
12. Whether one company should have that much power over ALL electronic communication is the problem
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:46 PM
Feb 2014

Lump together the amount of Content they own and their control over the pipes that bring it to people...

It ought to be a no-brainer to say NO to this

doc03

(35,332 posts)
7. Instead of merging cable companies they should be breaking them up. I have had it with Comcast
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:42 PM
Feb 2014

every few months they raise their rates, my last bill jumped to $191. I dropped their phone and I am considering going to
satellite or just over the air for TV. I get 14 channels with rabbit ears. It is bs raising their rates every year 3 times the inflation rate.
This morning I saw where they ranked seven TV providers for customer service and Time Warner and Comcast were rated 6 & 7.
.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
8. Cut the cable or take down that ugly satellite dish.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:43 PM
Feb 2014

Then put up an antenna and get as many as 30 or 40 free channels many in HD depending on your location. Even if you have to pay a contractor to put an antenna on your roof you will make that expense back in one or two months. And if you want more viewing choices if you have broadband you can get a streaming device such as a Roku or you might already have a smart TV or Bluray player that can do that. Again, you will get back the price of a Roku since you don't have a cable or satellite bill anymore.

durablend

(7,460 posts)
26. Exactly
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:13 PM
Feb 2014

You're still not getting away from them. Which is why I'm sick of people saying "Oh I'm cutting the cord and going with Netflix/Hulu/whatever".

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
31. I have to pay for Internet but that's ONLY $45
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:22 PM
Feb 2014

a month compared to $145 a month with Internet AND cable. When we move, we're going with rabbit ears because 99% my tv viewing is on the net. I'm getting rid of Huluplus because now you have to have a TV Internet Provider to watch new episodes of a TV show the next day. The reason I got Hulu+ was to be able to watch my TV favs the next day. Some tech savvy person told me there is a legitimate way to get free Internet access. Don't recall what he said to do but I think it involved purchasing a piece of equipment. If anyone knows what I speak of, please share.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
33. And they jack up the Internet prices if you don't bundle it with cable.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

I've heard that in some cases, it's actually cheaper to have Internet AND basic cable than Internet alone.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
100. exactly!
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:31 PM
Feb 2014

i currently pay $75 a month for internet from comcast. it sucks, but there's no other option here.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
62. True, but depending on your location you might be able to get Internet
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:34 PM
Feb 2014

from a small local ISP rather than one of the Comcast's of this world. I get mine from a small ISP called Digis Broadband. It's true that their upstream provider is probably one of the big boys but as a consumer you can only do so much.

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
85. not here. it's a choice between time warner, satellite internet or dial up.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 09:11 AM
Feb 2014

and from what I hear, satellite is a step above dial up. that's assuming you can even get it.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
97. Satellite is better than dialup but it has very restrictive bandwidth caps and latency issues
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:07 PM
Feb 2014

that cause it to be unsuitable for gaming and Internet telephony. It has gotten cheaper though and if you agree to a contract you can get a standard installation with no upfront costs.

But you might want to do a Net search and see if there is a fixed wireless ISP in your area. Sometimes people haven't even heard of them but they are getting more prolific all the time.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
49. Sounds good. Unfortunatly I don't understand!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:29 PM
Feb 2014

but you get an A for effort and I hope it help others save some money.

Baitball Blogger

(46,705 posts)
13. Huge mistake if that goes through.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:46 PM
Feb 2014

I'm already getting chills thinking that TWC already has too much power.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
102. And it ties directly with the net neutrality business
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 12:42 PM
Feb 2014

Comcast is setting itself to be the bridge troll. Basically they will either own the content themselves or else they will have enough leverage to force the other content owners to pay huge fees to be on the cable.

They were already in collusion with the other cable suppliers, but it is so much easier if you simply buy up the other cable operators. They one guy can make all the rules.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
20. It is way past time for these companies to become just a transporter and not a provider.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 04:57 PM
Feb 2014

Most of these companies provide much more than just TV they are becoming a vital link for not just individuals but for businesses as well.

With the recent decision on net neutrality these companies need to have that power taken away from them. All they should do is provide and maintain the cable and guarantee a minimum speed or be nationalized.

Most people don't want half of the channels they get in a package anyway, let us buy what we want from the original provider. If the price is too high then CBS or whoever will get fewer customers and either live with it or lower their prices.

Screw it, nationalize them now, their service is much too important to be allowed to stay the whim of any private company. I'm sure an argument for national security can be made.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
22. But, but, but the free market is supposed to improve service and reduce costs.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:03 PM
Feb 2014

So . . . let us be free from competition!

Wait, no, it's a competitive marketplace that leads to the benevolence of the invisible hand. A market free enough to allow monopolies and cartels leads to a few CEOs becoming "the Hand."

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
25. Yay for Al!! Love that guy.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

I haven't had cable in ages, so personally, I don't care---but I care a lot about how it will affect most people, and how it will further aid the cause of PROPAGANDISTS.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
38. Time Warner? The guys who kill my internet late night and on weekends?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:06 PM
Feb 2014

Yeah, I'd say the service was unsatisfactory.

tofuandbeer

(1,314 posts)
39. I hope this can be stopped. These mergers are ridiculous!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:12 PM
Feb 2014

As a long time Time-Warner internet/cable customer, I'm already looking for alternates.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
40. Mega buyouts: A buys B for $C. The cost of the buyout is paid by:
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:14 PM
Feb 2014

a) increasing prices, and b) reducing quality and amount of services. But, the fix is in, and it will happen.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
42. Our masters fully intend for Comcast to have too much control over television content.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:35 PM
Feb 2014

What in the hell does Franken think they're doing this for?

I appreciate his concern, but dollars-to-donuts this deal will go through, with or without Franken.

illachick

(28 posts)
44. I don't need cable
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:41 PM
Feb 2014

I made the decision quite some time ago that when I strike it out on my own(hopefully within the next 2 yrs) cable will definitely not be an expense I will incur. There is hardly anything on that I am remotely interested in and I spend increasingly more time on my computer on 8 dollar a month Netflix and Youtube, the major networks put their shows on their sites for free (for now) and I get my news from here and TYT both internet based, who needs mind-numbing cable, except for PBS that is good tv(I still watch some of the kids programming at 22 lol don't judge) but I don't think you need cable for that, I would miss NatGeo though.

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
47. I hear you.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:22 PM
Feb 2014

We dropped our cable last year.

We just couldn't stomach paying those pirates Time Warner for dogmeat service!

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
45. Some people think "TV" will somehow exist on their computers when no-one watches cable anymore.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:42 PM
Feb 2014

AS IF their "free" on-line television programs DON'T DEPEND TOTALLY ON CABLE CUSTOMERS AND BROADCAST COMMERCIALS.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
70. Shit, it is even more goofy to think it will be permitted at all. The monopoly will just start
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:26 PM
Feb 2014

blocking anything you don't have through them and charging more for Internet alone than for Internet and cable and/or just giving cable with the pipe or slowing Netflix and Hulu to a worthless crawl or capping so you don't have the bandwidth to watch shit or any number of things to force you to pay or go without.

There is no competition and they can do whatever they want with your bandwidth, they can't loose and nobody better peep about satellite, that is low cap, high dollar, just over dial up with absurd ping for folks that cannot get broadband not a competitor for broadband.

 

november3rd

(1,113 posts)
46. A Modest Proposal
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:20 PM
Feb 2014

Instead of merging the companies, make them both property of the workers who actually provide cable and internet service--and they will be unionized--along with the People who actually use cable and internet.

The gigantic and fraudulent scam of having Time Warner and Comcast OWN, COMPLETELY OWN, the cable and broadband infrastructure for the north Eastern United States is long overdue for an extreme makeover. Internet and cable are so essential to modern social and economic life that Americans have a right to free universal access. It's a necessity, OK? And they must have access to the highest quality technology and service possible.

Why don't We, the People have the highest quality service, and why do we pay exorbitant rates for it?

Because Time Warner and Comcast shareholders own everything, and we, the People own nothing in our cable and internet infrastructure and management organizations.

Let's go Franken. Step into the 21st century. Just like we need free universal kindergarten, health care, education, and guaranteed food and housing, we also require free universal cable and broadband.

The reason our stuff sucks is because our business model sucks. It's time for the Public to Take Over our country! We cannot be ruled by feudal oligarchs.



dembotoz

(16,803 posts)
48. da plane da plane--welcome to fantasy island if you are looking at the telcos as a good alternative
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:22 PM
Feb 2014

trusting the likes of the former bells is a stupid thing to do

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
55. here at least we have AT&T Broadband as an alternative
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:57 PM
Feb 2014

I have to get off my lazy rear and do something about a Comcast alternative

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
61. NONSENSE. I see no hammer whatsoever. In fact, I see complicity and acquiescence.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:09 PM
Feb 2014

The entire letter treats this ceding of our internet to corporate control as a done deal, merely begging a few assurances about "rates." This is NOT a hammer. This is PR lip service by corporate Democrats while colluding in the sale of our free and open internet.

THIS MUST BE STOPPED.




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Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
63. We moved but we used to have Time Warner
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:43 PM
Feb 2014

I had a bill of $200.00. My brother went down to turn the equipment back, and the lady said to him how much do you want to pay? He paid $73.00. Then I got an e-mail and a paper bill for the remainder of $130.00. But not too long after that, I got another bill for $0.00.

I was shocked to say the least. Now we have Comcast. So I am glad I don't have an outstanding bill with Time Warner anymore. I would love to do the antenna, but how do you avoid cable and the internet charge? As it is, my internet isn't that fast with Comcast. Reading 2 bars now.

babsbunny

(8,441 posts)
95. We purchesed a ROKU
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 02:49 PM
Feb 2014

I had to see if it was as awesome as everyone says, and it is. Now if I can convince Hubby.........

siligut

(12,272 posts)
103. Comcast is vile
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 01:02 PM
Feb 2014

Even their sales representatives will admit Comcast is evil, in confidence of course. Comcast will charge people different prices for the same thing if they can get away with it. There is always a long, long wait on the phone if you can't solve your problem online.

We have used them for years (no choice) and when we adjusted our service down they sent us a letter saying there was a problem with our credit (which is excellent) so our order couldn't be processed.

When I emailed them regarding their failure to allow access to HBOGO, I received back a form letter that was so maudlin and stupid it was not only insulting, I felt sorry for the person who had to send it.

 

father founding

(619 posts)
104. Economies of bullshit
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 02:05 PM
Feb 2014

Whenever you hear someone say economies of scale, put your hip boots on because they are slinging BS fast and furious.

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