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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 04:02 PM Feb 2014

DJ Respond To a Rapper Who Threatens To Rape a Woman...TRIGGER WARNING/LANGUAGE WARNING

On Monday, a young and rowdy crowd gathered at The Jump Off in London for an old-fashioned rap battle. Everyone was hoping for a good time, an evening free of any publicly declared threats of back-alley rape of women.

The man you see intervening (at the 31-second mark) is Nihal Arthanayake. He is a 42-year-old BBC Radio presenter, DJ, and family man. His artistic and professional influences include Mos Def, Bill Withers, Jon Stewart, and Mark Ronson. He hosts shows devoted to discussing and debating the issues facing British Asians. He interviews a wide variety of guests, including Fatima Khan, mother of a British doctor who died while being held in custody in Syria. Nihal has also occasionally stepped in controversy.

He can also rap—and on Monday, he put that skill to particularly good use. During the rap battle, MC Lighte The Boom Box said to his female opponent MC D'Klastro that, "bitch, after this, in the alley, you gonna get raped." This did not seem to go over well with the audience, and seconds later, Nihal (who was a judge at the event) interrupted the battle, got on-stage, and grabbed a mic. Here's part of what he said:

What the fuck, you fat idiot?

Didn't you have a mum? Didn't you have a sister? Why you so dumb?

Misogynistic prick. Talking, you think you're sick.

*snip*





http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2014/02/nihal-arthanayake-dj-bbc-radio-rap-battle-mc-threaten-rape-interview?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=mjfb


I enjoy good battles. That being said, KUDOS to the guy that took that piece of crap down!



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DJ Respond To a Rapper Who Threatens To Rape a Woman...TRIGGER WARNING/LANGUAGE WARNING (Original Post) one_voice Feb 2014 OP
typical of the genre, why the sudden outrage? that horse was out of the barn 20 yrs ago nt msongs Feb 2014 #1
Does that mean we can't try to change it now? Fawke Em Feb 2014 #2
What "genre"? Poetry? Poetry set to beats and bass? You sit back and the people who care RadiationTherapy Feb 2014 #3
not always. why the outrage over the outrage? it's healthy to push back. the crowd did not like bettyellen Feb 2014 #4
your indifference to rape threats is duly noted nt geek tragedy Feb 2014 #5
maybe people finally got a clue that this sh*t's not cool?? nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2014 #12
.|.. Aldo Leopold Feb 2014 #17
Slightly more than 20... LadyHawkAZ Feb 2014 #22
Of course that poem does not promote rape and is in fact a telling of events from Ovid Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #29
I HAVE been outraged for 20 years and I'm glad about the audience smackdown.. whathehell Feb 2014 #23
I hope a lot has changed in the UK dickthegrouch Feb 2014 #6
It was so cool! cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #7
In a rap battle there's no rules! kalisto2010 Feb 2014 #8
hey, it's rap, so it's all good... NOT. nt TheFrenchRazor Feb 2014 #11
I agree about there being no... one_voice Feb 2014 #14
That's why music is subjective kalisto2010 Feb 2014 #16
Well, you proved your point about music being subjective Lordquinton Feb 2014 #19
It seems the only people there are "no rules" for, especially in a pc environment, are WOMEN whathehell Feb 2014 #25
rap rules do not preempt the rest of society. anyone who talks up raping geek tragedy Feb 2014 #18
Thank you.....n/t whathehell Feb 2014 #26
Two people agreeing to no rules isn't really much of a defense. JoeyT Feb 2014 #20
So the only way to get the jump on a female is to threaten her with RAPE? BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #9
but... but... it's ART!!! rap is like "comedy;" you can say anything you want and TheFrenchRazor Feb 2014 #10
That's the Republican Defense: "It was just a joke!" n/t Beartracks Feb 2014 #21
You get it...Thanks. whathehell Feb 2014 #27
That was kind of weak, Here's a REAL rap battle! snooper2 Feb 2014 #13
Lol Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #15
LOL! Epic... one_voice Feb 2014 #24
This is the kind of rap I prefer. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #28

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
3. What "genre"? Poetry? Poetry set to beats and bass? You sit back and the people who care
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 04:28 PM
Feb 2014

can care enough to challenge these moments with or without your interest in the matter.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
4. not always. why the outrage over the outrage? it's healthy to push back. the crowd did not like
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 04:29 PM
Feb 2014

the rape comment, and they loved it when the other mc set him straight.
that was awesome.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
22. Slightly more than 20...
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 06:30 PM
Feb 2014

"And now this lustful lord leap'd from his bed,
Throwing his mantle rudely o'er his arm;
Is madly toss'd between desire and dread;
Th' one sweetly flatters, th' other feareth harm;
But honest fear, bewitch'd with lust's foul charm,
Doth too too oft betake him to retire,
Beaten away by brain-sick rude desire.

His falchion on a flint he softly smiteth,
That from the cold stone sparks of fire do fly;
Whereat a waxen torch forthwith he lighteth,
Which must be lode-star to his lustful eye;
And to the flame thus speaks advisedly,
'As from this cold flint I enforced this fire,
So Lucrece must I force to my desire.'"

~William Shakespeare, a white guy not immersed in the rap genre.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
29. Of course that poem does not promote rape and is in fact a telling of events from Ovid
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 07:05 PM
Feb 2014

The reaction to the rape of Lucrece and her subsequent suicide lead to revolt against the rapist and his father the king, who were driven out of Rome. Thus began the Roman Republic. To compare it to some misogynistic pop lyric is fairly inaccurate. A very far cry from what is described in the OP.

dickthegrouch

(3,173 posts)
6. I hope a lot has changed in the UK
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 04:38 PM
Feb 2014

When I was in college and attempting to come out and discover who I was, I was asked many times by other youths whether I wanted to be raped. I was terrified the first time I was asked that - the answer was "yes, I wanted sex with him, but not to be raped". It seemed many in the UK were too immature to ask the real question and asked something they deemed more acceptable!

It seems to me that that immaturity has actually caused some of the problem since the use of "do you want to be raped" instead of "do you want to be fucked" has diminished the connotations.

I wonder if the same thing has happened in other cultures.

kalisto2010

(64 posts)
8. In a rap battle there's no rules!
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 04:55 PM
Feb 2014

I've heard WAY worse things than this in rap battles. Nothing is off limits in a rap battle, and both MC's know and agree to it prior to doing so. As a lifelong rap fan and former battle rapper myself, I have to confess that British rappers on the most part sound really lame. There's actually some really talented British rappers too, but their accents are just too proper and non threatening when they're accentuating their punchlines. The weird thing is while the hip hop culture is stagnating in America it's exploding over in Europe.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
14. I agree about there being no...
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

rules.

But recently rappers have had to apologize for things that might not have been a problem before.

Lil Wayne and the Emmett Till lyrics.

J. Cole and the autism lyrics. His apology was fantastic.

I think people are drawing lines...who knows how far or long it will go.

I personally think if you have to rap about raping someone you have zero talent.

kalisto2010

(64 posts)
16. That's why music is subjective
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:40 PM
Feb 2014

Some people find art in what other deem as trash. Eminem is the most talented rapper or all time, and raped about raping his own mother. Sick I know.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
25. It seems the only people there are "no rules" for, especially in a pc environment, are WOMEN
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 06:46 PM
Feb 2014

As Nation writer Katha Pollitt said "Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left",

But yes, if this incident is an indication, it seems lines ARE being drawn against degrading

half the human race and it's ABOUT fucking time!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. rap rules do not preempt the rest of society. anyone who talks up raping
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:56 PM
Feb 2014

another person is a piece of shit.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
20. Two people agreeing to no rules isn't really much of a defense.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014

If it were, we'd still have ritualized duels that ended at death, as long as both participants agreed. Instead we view people that suggest pistols at twenty paces as crazy throwbacks that are detrimental to a functional society.

It's high time we view people that threaten rape the same way, whatever medium they choose to do it in.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
9. So the only way to get the jump on a female is to threaten her with RAPE?
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 04:57 PM
Feb 2014

Goes right for the low blow. It's so easy. It's all over the internet in the comment sections too. It's how troglodytes shut down an argument. Even here, where it's supposed to be about wit and poetry.

Glad the crowd did not approve. (Too bad the only way to respond was with fat-shaming.) That shit ALWAYS needs to be shut down. That's why idiots who take offense saying men don't need to be told not to rape or that they are supporting rapists by refusing to speak out against it need to STFU. Because dumbasses will think it's ok, and no big deal, and then wield it like a club. Fuck. That. Shit.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
10. but... but... it's ART!!! rap is like "comedy;" you can say anything you want and
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:04 PM
Feb 2014

nobody is allowed to call you on it. NOT!!!!! frankly. i'm shocked and pleasantly surprised that anybody did call this MoFo out on his hateful spew. maybe it is the beginning of the end for hate-rap.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. That was kind of weak, Here's a REAL rap battle!
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 05:10 PM
Feb 2014

EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Adam

VS.

EVE!


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