This is what the Republican Party did not want to happen...

[kpete]

Bad news for Republicans: Obamacare is helping their voters too

Not all Republicans agree; one is Irene Jacusis of New Port Richey, who was uninsured until now. “I did not vote for Obama," she said. "But I am so in love with this plan, with this health care plan, what can I do?"

She knows that her party wants to repeal it. "But I don’t think they’re going to," she said. "There are too many people out there who need this and require it.” She says her husband Ronald died last year from a rare sarcoma because he waited too long to see a doctor after he felt a lump.

.......................

Another Republican who wants to keep the Affordable Care Act is Mary Fallon of St. Petersburg. She was a teacher for many years, but because she was paid from grant funds she didn’t qualify for health insurance. She had to buy her own policy, but then she got sick. Hello, pre-existing condition.

More:
http://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/some-republicans-love-obamacare
VIA:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/14/1277651/-Bad-news-for-Republicans-Obamacare-is-helping-their-voters-too

[drm604]

1. This is why they've been pushing their propaganda so hard.

The problem for them is that that propaganda doesn't work so well when it flies in the face of actual personal experience.

The big risk for them now is that if they continue the propaganda people will finally see it for what it is. At that point people will realize that they've been believing information that's coming from sources that don't have their best interests at heart, and they'll start questioning the things they're told by sources such as Fox News.

If people finally catch on and right-wing propaganda becomes a lot less effective then Republicans are screwed.

[Cha]

3. Yeah, like frenzied rabid

cornered rats.

[nxylas]

38. They've been saying this would happen

Article after article, not just in the RW echo chamber, but in the "mainstream" media as well, saying "Once you get our voters sucking on the government teat, we'll never wean them off it. I fucking hate voters". They didn't put it quite like that, of course, but that was the gist of it.

[Autumn]

2. Their worst nightmare came true.

rofl: :

[Andy823]

5. It their nightmare will only get worse

Over the next year more and more people will find out that the ACA is actually good for them, and as the program gets tweaked, and the bugs get weeded out, republicans will find that they will never be able to get rid of the ACA, and it's a base for a real universal health care plan in the future. It will drive republicans insane, or more insane I guess!

[CTyankee]

34. this is EXACTLY why they fought so hard against it!

It dawned on them that it would go the way of Social Security and Medicare...and be HUGELY successful. Progressives and even center Dems predicted this all along and voila! it has come to pass, exactly as predicted!

Ain't that funny?

[dickthegrouch]

4. and the empty "we have plans" must be challenged too

I can't tell you the number of times I've heard repugs say "We have a plan" without enumerating it. I'm so sick of them blowing smoke and never being challenged to detail the plan. I have yet to hear what they'll replace the ACA with at the time that they are repealing the ACA. If they don't replace it with anything they won't last until the next mid-terms. Far too many people will lose out and then we'll know who those "death panels" are really staffed by.

The MSM has given them a pass for 14 years. It's time for us to ask, loudly, rudely, publicly what those plans are, and how they are being prepared for now, rather than waiting until 2 years after some putative election 'victory' by the repugs.

[CTyankee]

35. their response is generally "homina homina..."

it's getting seriously STUPID...

[shenmue]

6. Yep

Once people figure out that it's working for a lot of average Americans, they'll see that they've been lied to, and they won't like that.

It will be reflected at the voting booth.

[homegirl]

9. Just this week

I have had conversations with two friends who are finally able to have necessary procedures thanks to the PPACA. Both are self employed and are delighted to have access to the California health insurance plan.

[calimary]

53. Welcome to DU, homegirl!

Glad you're here! Don't underestimate the Stupid. Because so many of these Pox Noise devotees and their families and friends have been so seriously inculcated with this poison that it's going to be a hard habit to break. Denial runs WAY deeper than we give it credit for. It's awfully hard to force yourself to let go of feelings and beliefs you've embraced and clung to for years, and had reinforced for so many years of this brainwashing. And that's what it's been. A relentless, calculated brainwashing. We have A LOT of work to do to reverse that trend - that's been at least 30 years in the making. The bad guys have a huge head start. But at least we're waking up and starting to recognize the need to confront this evil and defeat it.

And we MUST do so, if our country is going to survive.

[SummerSnow]

7. I always thought it was funny...

when rethugs would swear they would never sign up for the ACA or Obamacare as they call it. But they forgot one thing, your ass is going to get sick one day. Also, the never demanded their party to come up with a health plan.


http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/1HYzGrzTRfDPP9idC0hF8A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http:/media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/theticket/AP120326046410.jpg



Bunch of liars.

[BlueJac]

8. I live in Florida

I used to pay $350/mo for just myself from Florida Blue. Now my wife and I are covered for $200/mo. Unreal the difference. All the crazies are dead wrong! Facts never did get in the way of any Republican! I still know national health would blow this plan out of the water. Quit paying for a middle man it that makes zero sense. One step at a time. Unfortunately we are at least 60 years late on national care that we mandated to Germany and Japan after WWII. Thanks Republicans!

[napkinz]

10. ACA Signup Success Stories

1. https://www.facebook.com/acasuccessstories

2. https://www.facebook.com/acasignupsuccessstories

3. https://www.facebook.com/ilikeobamacare

4. https://twitter.com/ACASuccessStory

5. http://acasignups.net

[napkinz]

11. meanwhile ...

17,000 People Will Die Uninsured in Red States Because GOP Leaders Refused Medicaid Expansion

Simone Sanner
February 6, 2014

Dr. Steffie Woolhandler is co-author of the new study Opting Out Of Medicaid Expansion: the Health And Financial Impacts. The new study just released has found up to 17,000 people will die as a result of the refusal of red state governors to participate in expanded Medicaid programs.

There are 8 million people who will not receive coverage under the new law that are eligible for it. Of that 8 million, as many as 17,000 people will die having not gotten the medical care those in blue states have access to. Another 750,000 will suffer from untreated depression, diabetics will not have access to medication, and women will not have access to pap smears and mammograms.

Woolhandler attributes this to a political move on the part of red state governors, as the program is 100% completely funded by the federal government for the first three years. After those three years have passed, 90% of the costs will be funded by the federal government.

States making the investment in their people will see an approximate 50% reduction in the number of people without any health insurance whatsoever.

read more: http://aattp.org/17000-people-will-die-uninsured-in-red-states-because-gop-leaders-refused-medicaid-expansion/

[They_Live]

17. Some are already dying. n/t

[nikto]

32. be happy for them...

They are going to heaven to be with Allah.




If character is destiny, then voting is destiny because it is an expression of character.
Boom!

[riqster]

54. Not all Red Staters vote Repub. Check the returns.

And not all non-Repubs can afford to move to another state. Reaganomics saw to that.

A bit of empathy for the dead who did not vote for the GOP, please.

[They_Live]

61. uh yeaahh,

I'll be sure to smile as they beg me for help that I cannot give to them. These are people I know. They didn't vote for it. Not sure I understand where you're comin' from. dig?

[Ilsa]

40. It's simple: Republicans Want them to die. nt

[Stellar]

46. Alan Grayson said that was their plan...

that if they got sick..."die quickly".

[jsr]

43. +1

[obxhead]

12. I love Obamacare, but

I'll still vote Republican because I don't THINK they will actually repeal it.

[SDjack]

14. Obamacare cannot cure extreme stupidity. nt

[obxhead]

30. "what can I do?"

duh, vote for the party that fought to bring (insert positive change here) to you.

I can read between the lines on that statement though. They'll still vote republican and keep hoping the republicans won't screw them.

They KNOW it's against their best interests, yet they will do so in spite of themselves.

[freshwest]

37. They really do rely on bleeding heart liberals to take care of them... The same way that Tom Delay

said he was shocked that the liberal jury convicted him. He really said that, he thought they'd be lenient with him. Not that he believed in that for his own actions.

But his rat bastid pals made sure that he didn't do time.

Really, that's what I think it boils down to with these types who call Democrats weak and effiminate. That when push comes to shove, we'll take care of them in spite of the abuse because we do believe in equal treatment under law.

And they are right, we do it for all, even though they hate us while we do it for them, too. Kind of galling, but what can you do with selfish brats?

[obxhead]

39. I honestly don't know what the core driving principle is for these people.

Plain bigotry?

Religious influence?

Years and decades of indoctrination?

I really don't know if there is a central ideology we can combat, I just know it's gonna take dozens of monumental actions like the PPACA to change their actual positions in the voting booth.

Until then, they will cheer every D policy that helps them while they yank hard on that R lever every 2 years.

[DhhD]

41. A core driving principle for Republicans is the criminal mind.

The criminal mind is believing that you can get away with your crimes, lawlessness, wrong thinking.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/inside-the-criminal-mind

[ConservativeDemocrat]

52. Loyalty...

They are loyal to their party, their culture, their history.

It takes a long time for people to switch over something they've been doing their whole lives. Especially based on one issue.


When you meet people like this, the best way to get them to change their actual vote is to tell them to "Send a Message" to their own party by voting for the other side. And once they finally "get" the message, then go back.

Of course, given that Republican candidates refuse to get messages, that will become a habit over time.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

[pangaia]

44. My one employess is a great guy.

He's 28, just had a baby daughter, is bright, a great employee,creative, energetic, good friend. He calls himself a redneck, partially in jest, I refer to him as an educated redneck, I guess. He will buy me out next year when I 'retire' and I will work part time for him. He's kind of middle of the road.

BUT, he still thinks McCain was a war hero, voted for him and the dumb nitwit in 2008. Voted for Romney in 2012. Is pro- choice, pro gay marriage, against the US having military all over the world..

But he still votes for fucking republicans..!!
I don't get it. The guy is smart enough to see what's going on but---

[obxhead]

51. I know people of the same stripes.

On nearly every serious issue they think like flaming liberals, yet they will still vote republican.

My guess is that it's mostly a matter of family history, religion, and "I'll be filthy rich one day" syndrome.

[trublu992]

16. I think this is going to be a wide spread thought

[maddiemom]

31. Hope you're joking. You'll continue to vote Republican because they'll be

ineffectual in their attempts to do damage to your best interests? LOL! Good one ; an irony classic.

[obxhead]

33. See post 30 (me) nt

[maddiemom]

48. Oh, thanks. I was just skimming through without paying attention to the names

of the posters unless something caught my eye.

[hue]

13. Exactly!! K&R!

[Diclotican]

15. kpete

kpete

Then just imagine how they would explode their little heads - if or when the US got universal Health Care.... ACA is a step in the right direction - even though it is a small step in the right direction compared to a full blown Universal Health Care for everyone...

Diclotican

[napkinz]

18. re even though it's a small step in the right direction compared to a full blown Universal Health

[Diclotican]

21. napkinz

napkinz

It must be horrible to live with the fear of not being able to pay your medical bills.. I have no clue how it is but I think it must be horrible...

Thankfully I do live in a country - who have universal health care - and the last year or so - I have ended up needing it dearly 3 times because of a condition I have with my kidneys - they are not to well - a infections at the right time - and I get really sick and end up in a hospital bed for a week... Not to say the time I got really sick - pehnumia and kidney failure a the same time.... I was able to walk out the hospital 3 weeks later - after a lot of medical attention - and not with a large bill who I would never had the possibility to even pay back the interest off...

I hope one day - that US also can have universal Health care as the rest of the civilized world have - it is many ways to solve it - but it have been solved to most country when it come to the first world country's... For goods sake - even Romania have universal health care - and they are one of the poorest country's in Europe - and they have also a lot of decent doctors to boot

Diclotican

[NJCher]

23. our country is pitiful

because here, everything is about the dollar.

Not health. Not well-being. Not truth, not intellect or day-to day-contentment or happiness--no, nothing like that.

The dollar.

Thanks for your post, diclotican. We, too, hope that someday we can join the civilized countries of the world.


Cher

[Diclotican]

24. NJCher

NJCher

It is sad state of affairs in the US this days - how horrible the mighty have fallen - it maybe have been that all the time - but now it is there for everyone who want to look at the misery - and maybe also do something about it...

I do hope US also will join the civilized country's of the world - with Universal Health Care at least - but I believe it will be a uphill battle - not easy won - as it was not when our parts of the world deiced it was a smart thing to have... It was many small steps before finally we got universal health care - where you can be given "free" treatments - regardless of who you are... Or if you are rich or poor...

Diclotican

[kpete]

19. Diclotican

you are SO right


peace,
kp

[Diclotican]

26. kpete

kpete



Diclotican

[Iwillnevergiveup]

22. Absolutely, Diclotican

Here's your (healthy) heart.

[Diclotican]

25. Iwillnevergiveup

Iwillnevergiveup

Thank you

Diclotican

[Auggie]

20. If they like the ACA, they'll love the Public Option ...

bring it on!

[arthritisR_US]

27. Oh iI like the way you think!

[L0oniX]

45. ^^^this^^^

[libodem]

28. .

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[stopwastingmymoney]

49. Damn, that is excellent

Stealing...

[libodem]

50. So glad you like it

Steal away.

[rhett o rick]

29. k&r thanks for posting. nm

[pacalo]

36. I know a Republican who was grateful that Obamacare allows his insurance to cover

his married 26-yr.-old son, & his daughter-in-law is covered by her parents' policy. It's gratifying to see when Republicans learn that they've been hoodwinked by Fox News' propaganda.

[pangaia]

42. I'm just waiting until repubs finally really do realize

that "Obamacare' actually WORKS and people like it. They already are backing away from that formerly 'derogatory' name and using ACA more and more.
Pretty soon they will tell us how it was really a republican idea to begin with-- which seems to be at least partially true..

[Iliyah]

47. 3 million denied Medicaid in Red States = Death Panel" and where is the media?

Yea right, covering Perkins stating outrageous but known ideals of what the 1-2%ers deem fair because of course they are "entitled".

Medicare and Medicaid (Medi-Cal) patients in "Red" states that still vote against their own interest "Keep Government out of Medicare" - LOL

GOPer constituent are misinformed and down right hurting themselves all the while blaming the wrong party. Look at "Unions" and TN VW voting against their own interest and when VW decides to move to Mexico I personally won't feel any pain for workers who voted against unionizing.

[napkinz]

55. let's see them try ...

[underthematrix]

56. What the woman in your example needs to understand,

the domestic terrorists GOP in the House and Senate are going to continue to try and repeal O-Care. They will not do infrastructure funding to put America back to work. They will not do immigration reform. They will try to defund EPA completely even though thousands of people in three states no longer have safe drinking water. This woman needs to understand she needs to either stay home or VOTE BLUE in 2014.

[gulliver]

57. Now that they can't repeal it, they will start trying to "reform" it to death.

The ACA will join Social Security and Medicare on the list of things Republicans pretend to love but secretly want dead.

[blkmusclmachine]

58. You think Republicans can put 2 and 2 together, remember facts, or are not bald-faced hypocrites???

ObamaCare = RomneyCare = BobDoleCare = GOPCare

[Berlum]

59. If the Republicons maintain their "We want America to FAIL" stance...

...then they will deserve all the hellacious krappy karma that fouls their gears.

[jehop61]

60. Just saw an ad on tv today

A doctor's office was advertising it's services and included the fact that they have staff who will help people sign up for health insurance when they come in. A great idea in poor Florida where they have been fighting it so much. Looks like even the republican docs here have finally seen the light.

[leftyohiolib]

62. too many prople need u.i. and they took it away dont think the wont do that to this

t to