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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMap of Hate Groups in US
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-mapI guess I was living in oblivion when I lived though out California. They lead the country with the most hate groups, disgusting.
blm
(113,101 posts).
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)36 in Ohio with ~11.5 million people
53 in Georgia with ~9.7 million people
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)These vile f*ckers scare the hell out me
Diamonique
(1,655 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)California has 38 million people. That's 12% of the US population. For comparison? Georgia has around 10 million people. Mississippi? Around 3 million. Relative to population the majority are where you'd expect. (And it's also useful to note that they include black separatist groups like the Nation of Islam and radical groups like the Jewish Defense League, and not just KKK/skinhead/white nationalist "hate groups" .
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)governor's offices and even branches of our government. I've heard people refer to them as the GOP or something like that. It's crazy. I know.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Why isn't the GOP and NRA on that map?
Lasher
(27,640 posts)http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/the-geography-of-hate/238708/
I have always considered this map a good resource. But as Comrade Grumpy said below, I'm skeptical about the way some hate groups are defined.
William769
(55,148 posts)Think about it.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)We'll just add that to the list.
sarisataka
(18,788 posts)Is accepted and cheered by some calling themselves' progressive' . It is sad that they can overlook the hateful bigot in the mirror.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Not specific ones of course - but the sort of thing a DU bigot might say.
Bryant
sarisataka
(18,788 posts)That lumps all members of an identifiable group together then judges all of the group by stereotypes or the actions of a minority.
The southern redneck is a recurring example.
Hate speech i see here regularly can be regional, sexist, religious, even political.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Seriously, search some threads about the Zimmerman trial, it's rather grotesque. You will often see DU'ers exploring every possible option to explain a racist incident except for racism - unless of course the victim is white, then we get smug "told ya so's!" The new one is the claim that the Michael Dunn trial jury was too progressive to convict him on Murder 1 because they didn't like the death penalty - it couldn't be because someone on the jury simply didn't think it was worth a murder charge...
Also a lot of hate delivered towards muslims. Islamophobia for DAYS on DU. Plus just general hatred and bloodlust towards the non-Israel middle east as a whole; We have people who think that a bloody military Junta in Egypt, massacring civilians, treating Journalism as terrorism, is a great thing, becuase the alternative might be a democratically-elected government passing a law against alcohol sales or something. To say nothing of the bloodthirsty ranting of people who wanted to massacre Syrians in airstrikes so that we could "send a message" to iran - or just as often simply because the president thought it would be a good move.
While lurking on DU I saw people defending antiziganism (hatred at Roma and other traveler / gypsy groups) by claiming - of course - that those people are all thieves and kidnappers. it was recently reprised on DU3 when there was a story about a Roma couple who apparently DID kidnap a child, their crime was thrown onto the entire ethnic group by DU.
And of course there's the transphobia - I never thought I would see a trans woman referred to as "it" on a place like DU, but that was a frequent expression with regard to chelsea Manning, as wll as the usual "He was born a man i'm going ot keep calling him a man!" shit.
I could make mention of the biases against women here, but there are other posters who could give you what's probably a clearer account.
Basically DU is only fully welcoming to white cis-males. others are "tolerated" or treated like fashion accessories. I know I'm not the only white cis-male who's bothered by this of course, it's not exactly a club we have... but it's the way any unmoderated place on the internet will go - along with the brainless right-wingerism that seems to have taken root here in general. A lot of worm-eaten driftwood has piled up on the shores of DU.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)I understand of "cissexuality," that too, and I don't feel enthused to discuss much of anything beyond hobbies, creative economy, and some political policy questions. The stuff that spreads through GD like the clapp might have import within a few enclaves of serious discussion; otherwise, its a place to dig tiger traps for other DUers, and breast-beat about one's own overwhelming morality at the expense of some vast Other. Sometimes, it's worth a few double-meanings & one-liners.
So many touch-screen allegiances, so many trick questions.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Especially when brick 'n' mortar is going the way of vacuum tubes.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)that was popular about 25-30 yrs ago. As folks branch out with ever-newer animosities, we'll have to create new expressions to describe social types and practitioners! I always liked "hateration."
Behind the Aegis
(53,998 posts)No need to go looking for a group IRL, just search the web!
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)For example, one state I am familiar with is South Dakota. SPLC lists six hate groups operating there, but only actually shows two (as far as I can tell).
One is a ranch owned by polygamist FLDS church, which is pretty retrograde, but I don't know how it's a hate group.
The other is a defunct on-line newspaper from Rapid City that has folded into another rag. I can't bring myself to delve too deeply into it, but it appears to be basically a Tea Party-type publication.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)has grown in America. One look at the list of Domestic terrorist events list should tell us of a growing problem.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)really nasty stuff going on in the US. Often I'm glad some are doing surveillance.
DrewFlorida
(1,096 posts)but also see a need for it.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Barenaked Islam and Chick Publications for instance
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)We're a loving state. I've never met any racist like the have down South or out West...lucky Vermonters.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)Two here, as well.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)but, yes, there are a lot of guns here. A lot of people hunt, and a lot of people have them for protection in the wild ... and some people are just macho assholes, like everywhere else.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)entire US. I sometimes travel a lot on the road and I have to admit I've been a bit spooked sometimes when I stop for gas or a bite to eat at a mini-mart and see whom I've been driving along with. And I see it across a lot of states/regions. Not all, but enough.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)SCUBANOW
(92 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)I am in CA. I will stay. Rather be here than Florida or GA. Smile. If I could afford the winter heating bills, I would like to be in VT. For now, I am happy where I find myself. And I am careful!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)but actually living here I can tell you that's probably because the neck tattooed meth cooks in the rural northern parts of the state don't have their shit together enough to set up websites and newsletters.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Well, that's nice that they don't discriminate.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)They have a least one "Get Off My Lawn" chapter in every state.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)KKK in NH? Neo Nazis in Maine? And so on.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)so it doesn't surprise me. And just in case anyone decides that they're "all in the red part of the state," you might want to look again. Most of them are in Southern California.
The thing about our hate groups? They don't elect Senators like in other states that will not be named here. They're considered fringe and aren't taken seriously. In other parts of the country, they make up religious congregations and elect Representatives to reflect their viewpoint.
That's the difference.