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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:11 PM Feb 2014

Activists say San Francisco trying to wash away the homeless (street-cleaning program)

Activists say San Francisco trying to wash away the homeless

Pilot street-cleaning program downtown exacerbates wider Bay Area conflict over living space amid second tech boom

SAN FRANCISCO — The crack-cocaine users who sleep across the street from Victoria — or "bubble boys," as she has nicknamed them, after a slang term for drug use — screamed when Department of Public Works employees sprayed them with high-powered hoses a few weeks ago, she says.

It was about 4:30 a.m. in the Mid-Market area of downtown San Francisco, a few hours before the daily arrival of tech industry employees, whose firms recently moved into the neighborhood. DPW workers gave the sleeping young men four warnings and then started spraying, said Victoria, 52, who only offered her first name out of a mistrust of police common among San Francisco’s homeless people.

Victoria described herself as a "polite," obliging homeless woman who picks up and leaves when asked by the authorities. She said the young men were given fair warning by the cleanup crew. But the sight of them being hosed was disturbing. "They were screaming," she said.

Three years ago, San Francisco’s city government backed a program to bring Silicon Valley tech into the heart of the city around the Tenderloin, traditionally home to the city’s have-lesses. That triggered what San Franciscans call the "second tech boom," which attracted a stream of moneyed young professionals, whom many critics have blamed for driving up the cost of living in the city and for pushing many lower-income people out of their apartments.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/2/18/san-francisco-tensionbetweenhomelessandsecondtechboomers.html

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Activists say San Francisco trying to wash away the homeless (street-cleaning program) (Original Post) The Straight Story Feb 2014 OP
Unsightly reminders of their parasitism will not be tolerated in the billionaires playground. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #1
With California suffering from a severe drought, you have to ask- notadmblnd Feb 2014 #2
Good point! KamaAina Feb 2014 #3
It becomes a biohazard at some point. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #6
Perhaps porta johns in an alley for the homeless? notadmblnd Feb 2014 #7
Kind of been tried. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #8
Hosing people down is not a tactic usually associated with liberal SF KamaAina Feb 2014 #4
It is a very complicated issue. Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #5
Well there is lot wrong with this story..... Bennyboy Feb 2014 #9
Yeah, that part kind of stuck out for me -- Hell Hath No Fury Feb 2014 #10
yep they sure are... Bennyboy Feb 2014 #13
They probably needed the shower. woolldog Feb 2014 #11
for interested readers who suspect this is simply to deter and abuse the homeless, you are right reddread Feb 2014 #12
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
1. Unsightly reminders of their parasitism will not be tolerated in the billionaires playground.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:22 PM
Feb 2014

The ugly side of American "Liberalism" has always been this aspect. We want to help you, so long as you do what we tell you and never inconvenience us.

Any one of them could eliminate homelessness in the Bay Area, simply by have the will to do so. So why are these parasites allowed to walk around unmolested? Why are they not shamed every time they poke their heads out of their walled enclaves?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. With California suffering from a severe drought, you have to ask-
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:28 PM
Feb 2014

Is spraying down the sidewalk and homeless so the hoi poll-oi won't see or smell them, the best thing they could be doing with that water right now?

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
6. It becomes a biohazard at some point.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014

It's not just urine but also feces. Cleaning the sidewalks is a MUST -- with that said, how they treat the residents is unquestionably wrong.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
8. Kind of been tried.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:56 PM
Feb 2014

They tend to get vandalized, used for shooting up or for quick sex by prostitutes/johns, and for sleeping in. Most of the people who are homeless in this area do not solely lack a living space but are suffering from a primarily issue involving drug/booze addiction and/or mental illness.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
5. It is a very complicated issue.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 05:40 PM
Feb 2014

That area has long been a very unsanitary bit of Market -- full on urine & shit soaked sidewalks, mostly from the drunks/drug users and mentally ill -- sometimes homeless, sometimes living in nearby SROs -- that frequent that area. This type of cleaning has gone on in the past and needs to continue. Badly. Several of my co-workers tale care of landscaping along the Market Street area and they have to deal with folks passed out in the plant beds, human feces, used needles -- it is not pretty.

What may be new is the aggression with which it is done. Now that little Newsomville is up and running on Market, the Tuppies are pissed off and very vocally complaining about their new neighbors. They would just as soon have them all "disappeared" from the City -- typical little shits with no thought whatsoever about anyone but themselves.

There are many issues to deal with here, including affordable housing for those who need it, mental health services for those who need it, addiction services for those who need -- the City has worked at these for years, some efforts more successful than others. What we also have in that area is a subgroup of folks who do not wish to (or aren't in a position to) choose to engage in the programs offered by the City or advocacy groups. The City has never come up with a good working solution for this group of people -- and those people and the City suffer for it.

On edit: I wanted to expand a little on some of the folks I am talking about. There are folks whose life possessions are kept in grocery carts -- I don't know of a public or private shelter who will let someone in with a carts -- so those folks prefer to remain on the streets with their carts. There are others who do not like the rules about booze and drugs in the shelter systems. Others who are so mentally incapacitated -- but do not present a threat to themselves or others -- they are not thinking clearly enough to maintain a life off the streets. There are no answers for these folks.

 

Bennyboy

(10,440 posts)
9. Well there is lot wrong with this story.....
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:05 PM
Feb 2014

in the first place they have been hosing Market street down from Financial to the Civic Center and beyond every night for years and years. Sweeper machines, hoses, huge crews just take over the street.

So trying to make the tech people the boogie man isn't gonna work here.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
10. Yeah, that part kind of stuck out for me --
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:09 PM
Feb 2014

Heck, the street steamer crew are a big & fun part of every parade here in SF!

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
12. for interested readers who suspect this is simply to deter and abuse the homeless, you are right
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:11 PM
Feb 2014

I wont waste words or breath on people with class agendas working the hateful side of the street.
The fact is that the "Rescue Mission" in Fresno used hoses on sidewalks to remove sleeping people early in the morning.
Not for any other reason, no matter what people might say as an excuse.
The lack of sanitary options in SF, and elsewhere can NOT be excused by the fearful fantasy of porta potty sex or IV drug use.
Those activities are not curtailed by keeping toilets unavailable. What is curtailed is public health considerations.
Despicable how right wing anti-homeless rhetoric pervades places like this, where the poorest of the poor should find compassion and intelligent discussion, instead of lowbrow classism and economic bigotry.
Some of you may actually deserve the terrible turns of misfortune that put so many on the street.
Pity kharma doesnt play out like that.

The Homelessness marathon airs tonight I believe.
http://news.homelessnessmarathon.org/
feel free to get better info from the people suffering in this sick society.

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