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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:21 PM Feb 2014

Chickenpox Nostalgia Is Real—And Really Dangerous

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/the_kids/2013/11/chickenpox_vaccine_is_it_really_necessary.html

"A few weeks ago, I stumbled across the Facebook group “Chicken Pox Parties—New York Metro Area.” It has 143 members, all of whom, I’m guessing, are parents who have chosen not to vaccinate their kids against chickenpox and instead hope to build their kids’ immunity the old-fashioned way, by directly exposing them to the germs of a pox-infected child. They are not alone: Facebook has 14 other chickenpox party groups organized by geographical region, and if you can’t get to one in person, you can always ask to be sent a lollipop with an infected child’s spit on it.

Perhaps these parents go this route because they’re distrustful of the vaccine or they think that inoculating against chickenpox is dumb. For those of us who endured chickenpox as kids and emerged relatively unscathed, the varicella vaccine, as it’s called, does at first seem kind of dumb—another unnecessary medical intervention being thrust upon us and another box to check off on the never-ending paperwork that is raising a child. So should we say no to our pediatricians and bring a pox on all our houses instead?

After evaluating the medical evidence, my answer is an emphatic no. The shot is by far the better way to go. That’s because although we might recall chickenpox as a small but annoying blip on our childhood radar it can be dangerous. True, before the vaccine was licensed in 1995, only about 100 to 150 American kids died of chickenpox every year, and most of these children had underlying immune system issues. But every year, chickenpox landed about 11,000 kids in the hospital. It’s not that they couldn’t handle all the itching; one study from Europe (where many countries do not vaccinate against chickenpox) has found that one-fifth of all otherwise healthy kids who are hospitalized for chickenpox suffer neurological problems such as strokes, meningitis, convulsions, and encephalitis. Chickenpox can also cause septic shock, pneumonia, necrotizing fasciitis (that’s flesh-eating bacteria), and other bacterial infections.

...

I know that it’s tempting to think, That’s silly; I didn’t have the vaccine, so my kid shouldn’t need it either. But you might as well be saying that your kid has no right to a healthier, safer world than the one you grew up in—and that sounds far sillier."



It's a nutty, nutty world. Ugh.

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Chickenpox Nostalgia Is Real—And Really Dangerous (Original Post) HuckleB Feb 2014 OP
I remember being really sick DiverDave Feb 2014 #1
I missed seeing my littel sister for a week Scootaloo Feb 2014 #4
I guess these people don't remember what an ugly disease it was Warpy Feb 2014 #2
I still have a scar on my forehead from my bout Skidmore Feb 2014 #5
I do too. Smack dab in the middle of my forehead. Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #13
I consider that scar to be my third eye. Skidmore Feb 2014 #18
Some children have extremely mild cases. I heard a theory that older children often have the pnwmom Feb 2014 #22
It was opposite with my kids laundry_queen Feb 2014 #29
That's funny because I heard the opposite theory -- that oldest kids have been exposed the most, pnwmom Feb 2014 #33
I mentioned downthread laundry_queen Feb 2014 #35
I was about 6 or 7, and my case was pretty mild. A lot of itching and not much else. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #40
I know I had chicken pox as a kid. Luckily, I don't remember it. HuckleB Feb 2014 #24
Same here. I had it when I was 17 and it was BAD. I got mononucleosis at the same time. stevenleser Feb 2014 #20
Ouch! HuckleB Feb 2014 #23
Totally, so do I. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #38
No mittens, but... pipi_k Feb 2014 #15
A grammar school friend of mine lost three months to encephalitis MineralMan Feb 2014 #3
I too got encephalitis. Messed up my sense of broiles Feb 2014 #62
You're just a shill for the vaccine industry Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #6
+1 HuckleB Feb 2014 #7
Huh CFLDem Feb 2014 #8
I had it, but we can get it again. KitSileya Feb 2014 #9
I remember that when I had chicken pox, Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #28
I think a big part of those 'parties' laundry_queen Feb 2014 #32
Three cheers for your daughter's immune system! Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #65
Then there's the shingles! longship Feb 2014 #10
Recovering from Shingles as we speak. FLyellowdog Feb 2014 #12
Awww.... pipi_k Feb 2014 #16
You and Keith Olbermann davidpdx Feb 2014 #69
Poor man. Thanks. FLyellowdog Feb 2014 #74
I doubt their children will thank them for the adult onset of shingles. 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #11
If you get the vaccine are you at risk for shingles later in life? Downwinder Feb 2014 #14
Not any more than otherwise. HuckleB Feb 2014 #17
No. But if the vaccine also precludes shingles it makes Downwinder Feb 2014 #19
It doesn't alas. Older people should get the shingles vaccine no matter whether they had chicken pox pnwmom Feb 2014 #21
I'm on infection #3 JesterCS Feb 2014 #42
I don't know why that isn't covered by the ACA, like the other vaccines. pnwmom Feb 2014 #44
I'm alright JesterCS Feb 2014 #46
It might be. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #52
Here's the list of covered vaccines. It's not on it. pnwmom Feb 2014 #56
Varicella is the last one listed under ones for adults. Yeah...you can get it. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #57
That not the shingles vaccine. The shingles vaccine is called Zostavax or the Zoster vaccine. pnwmom Feb 2014 #59
Oh..shingles..I thought chickenpox! Shingles is covered under part D...and the msanthrope Feb 2014 #60
The recommended age is 50 and up. pnwmom Feb 2014 #61
Ah...well, I hope that's something that can be added to the ACA to cover people who msanthrope Feb 2014 #63
I got chicken pox when I was about 8 and was out of school for a week... madinmaryland Feb 2014 #25
My family was like that except I missed most of the second half of kindergarten. pnwmom Feb 2014 #45
I wish all these parents would get shingles so they can know what they have potentially Drew Richards Feb 2014 #26
People who receive the chicken pox vaccine may still be susceptible to getting shingles. pnwmom Feb 2014 #36
Chicken pox damn near cost me my leg...... Historic NY Feb 2014 #27
How old were you when that happened? davidpdx Feb 2014 #70
I was about 10 or 11 at the time a scabbed area developed an Historic NY Feb 2014 #75
I nearly died from the chickenpox... this is a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad idea JCMach1 Feb 2014 #30
My six kids had it before the vaccine came along - hedgehog Feb 2014 #31
In the 1970s, it was considered a good thing to actually come down with it, bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #34
Makes me glad that I was born after the vaccination became available davidpdx Feb 2014 #71
And the virus can go dormant and re-emerge later as shingles, tblue37 Feb 2014 #37
Keith Olbermann is recovering from shingles right now davidpdx Feb 2014 #72
Can one request the vaccine as an adult? BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #39
The Mayo Clinic says: Heidi Feb 2014 #43
Thanks for the info! BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #47
I was at ER Yesterday JesterCS Feb 2014 #41
Ouch. HuckleB Feb 2014 #48
thanks JesterCS Feb 2014 #67
Varicella zoster is what you're really protecting against mainer Feb 2014 #49
I wish I had never had chicken pox MissMillie Feb 2014 #50
Got it when I was 23. Frank Cannon Feb 2014 #53
OUCH!!!! MissMillie Feb 2014 #54
I was the last kid with chicken pox in my family. bravenak Feb 2014 #51
24 years ago daughters doctor said let them catch chicken pox HockeyMom Feb 2014 #55
I had it when I was about 12, RebelOne Feb 2014 #58
Chickenpox fucked me up, I still have scars. In my mouth, on my face, everywhere. hunter Feb 2014 #64
I had the chicken pox in 1975. Aristus Feb 2014 #66
du rec. xchrom Feb 2014 #68
Thanks! HuckleB Feb 2014 #78
you bet! xchrom Feb 2014 #79
I have two words to describe that davidpdx Feb 2014 #73
Several years ago my favorite uncle died of chickenpox encephalitis kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #76
How many ways can this country go backwards at the same time? Paladin Feb 2014 #77
got chicken pox in my mid to late 30's dembotoz Feb 2014 #80

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
1. I remember being really sick
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

and standing at the window watching the other kids play.
I couldn't go out as I was quarantined.
Crazy people should be jailed and their kids taken to someone sane.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. I missed seeing my littel sister for a week
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:30 PM
Feb 2014

My mom went into labor the same day my teacher noticed a bump on my lip and sent me home.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
2. I guess these people don't remember what an ugly disease it was
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:27 PM
Feb 2014

Once you broke out and the blisters started to dry, the itching was intense. That's when your mother would put you to bed at night with mittens on so you wouldn't scratch in your sleep and turn the scabs into scars, something that happened to us if we scratched.

Adults who catch it scar from it, period. I've known a few people who caught it from their kids because they'd never had it when they were kids and it was nasty.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
5. I still have a scar on my forehead from my bout
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:37 PM
Feb 2014

with the chickenpox. Two of my brothers and my sister had it at the same time. We were all miserable. We had measles too. Children should be vaccinated.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
13. I do too. Smack dab in the middle of my forehead.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:02 PM
Feb 2014

We also have shingles to perhaps look forward to, later in life.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
18. I consider that scar to be my third eye.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 08:19 PM
Feb 2014


My husband had shingles last year and it was extremely uncomfortable for him. He did not recall having chicken pox as a child. I told him I could not imagine how he could forget such an event. Must have had a pretty mild case.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
22. Some children have extremely mild cases. I heard a theory that older children often have the
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:10 PM
Feb 2014

worst cases, and that was true among my children. My third was just a toddler, and he only had a few lesions, so he got the vaccine when it came around.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
29. It was opposite with my kids
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:06 PM
Feb 2014

My oldest had 1 pox above and beyond the amount you need for immunity (I can't remember the amount...25? 50?) so barely any, and most were on her back. Only one on her face. My middle child had hundreds and my youngest (at the time) had so many I stopped counting. She had 100 on her face, easily. And she was still breastfeeding at the time!

Oddly enough, even though she, by far, had the mildest case my oldest was the one who constantly complained about the itching, while my other 2 acted like they weren't even sick. They hardly scratched at all and played together all day like nothing was wrong.

All 3 did scar though, which is strange since I had a really bad case at age 3 and didn't scar at all. You can't notice it though unless they get a bit of a tan, then you can see faint white spots on their back.

My 4th child was born after the vaccine became available and she did get the vaccine. Honestly, though, I was lucky - I didn't find chicken pox that bad at all, except for the scarring (but I'm not one of those people who is like "zomg! You have a MARK on your face, hideous!" like my mother is - you should've heard her after my daughter needed stitches on her forehead...she wanted to call in a plastic surgeon) I also remember when I had chicken pox, and I do remember scratching, but it was during the summer and I was at my grandparent's farm so my mom wasn't sure I was scratching from the pox or the sandfly bites, LOL. She also said I didn't act sick at all.

Another weird thing that may have contributed to my oldest having a mild case - she was exposed numerous times and didn't catch it. I mean sharing sippy cups with her toddler friend exposed...then I babysat 2 kids who had active cases during the most virulent time (right before and during the rash)...then she had a kid sneeze on her who came down sick the next day...my daughter never caught it. I wonder if she had a small subclinical infection that gave her some immunity which made her full blown case more mild later on. I dunno.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
33. That's funny because I heard the opposite theory -- that oldest kids have been exposed the most,
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:23 PM
Feb 2014

so when they finally get it they get the worst cases. I was hoping the vaccine would be available before my kids got infected -- no such luck. But when my oldest finally got it, she got hundreds just on her face -- and equal amounts on her back, chest, and arms. And some got infected. She was just miserable. Her younger brother had a lot fewer, and the youngest hardly any.

My nephew had some in his eyes, and that was horrible, too.

I would never expose a kid to this "mild" disease on purpose.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
35. I mentioned downthread
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:30 PM
Feb 2014

before the vaccine, exposing your young child made sense because they were less likely to have complications if they got it when they were very young. So, the options were: expose my toddler NOW and they will likely get a mild case, or don't expose and wait, and then when they are teens and catch it then, they will have a really horrible case. Or worse, what happened to my friend...never catch it at all until you are an adult and pregnant (let's just say she was extremely ill and had to be monitored very closely and everyone was very, very freaked out). Back in the day, those were the options, so I can see why people exposed their kids. I did it with my oldest (the kids I babysat, I knew they were sick...daycare wouldn't take them so I did thinking, "why not?&quot I wanted her to get it young and not deal with what my pregnant friend had to deal with.

Thankfully now, you can avoid all that.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
40. I was about 6 or 7, and my case was pretty mild. A lot of itching and not much else.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:13 AM
Feb 2014

But obviously I'm a sample of one...

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
24. I know I had chicken pox as a kid. Luckily, I don't remember it.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:10 PM
Feb 2014

Family history is good to write down.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. Same here. I had it when I was 17 and it was BAD. I got mononucleosis at the same time.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:07 PM
Feb 2014

My fever reached 104 if I am not mistaken.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. Totally, so do I.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 04:25 AM
Feb 2014

I mean, it's up in the hairline, you'd never see it if you didn't go looking. I suppose if I go bald one day I've have a little crater up there, though.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
15. No mittens, but...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:31 PM
Feb 2014

I do remember being virtually coated with calamine lotion, which worked until it dried.

Then we were covered with itchy scabs again, and dried up flaky calamine lotion.


IMO, any parent who would knowingly expose his/her kid to that is guilty of abuse.

Not to mention, as someone else said, the risk for shingles later in life.

One of my cousins, in her 40s, had a nasty case of them last year. I guess they are pretty common on the side of the family we both come from.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
3. A grammar school friend of mine lost three months to encephalitis
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:30 PM
Feb 2014

from the chickenpox. She recovered OK, but what a bad deal. I lived pre vaccine, and we all caught it. I remember my mom making mittens for us kids from fake rabbit fur, so we wouldn't scratch ourselves raw. No fun at all.

broiles

(1,367 posts)
62. I too got encephalitis. Messed up my sense of
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:26 PM
Feb 2014

balance which caused all sorts of other problems (falls). I can't get the shingles vaccine because it's a live virus, but I take Valtrex daily to keep it from coming back.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
6. You're just a shill for the vaccine industry
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 05:39 PM
Feb 2014

J/K.

My post title is in light of recent events.

But I agree. People are weird.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
9. I had it, but we can get it again.
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 06:01 PM
Feb 2014

It made sense to have these 'parties' before the vaccine, but these days? Especially considering that adults who weren't vaccinated, but had a mild case can get it again? A colleague of mine got chickenpox for a second time when she was in her late 50s. That was no party, according to her.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
28. I remember that when I had chicken pox,
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:33 PM
Feb 2014

my cousins were brought to the house so that they would "get it over with". It wasn't really a "party", which sounds insane to me now that there is a vaccine, but it really was the way people dealt with it in the 1950's.

I didn't know that anyone could get them again though.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
32. I think a big part of those 'parties'
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:22 PM
Feb 2014

was that people knew the older you were when you caught it, the more likely it would be more severe. It made sense to get little kids together so they would get chicken pox when they were more likely to have a mild case with fewer complications.

I kind of did that with my oldest daughter - she was around 18 months old and a friend called me needing a babysitter because one of her 2 kids came down with chicken pox and the daycare wouldn't take either of them until the rash cleared up (for those who don't know, that can take weeks). So I took her kids in, thinking it would be a good opportunity to get my daughter exposed. Even though it was at a very virulent time (the little boy broke out during the 3 weeks I had them) and they were sticking the same toys in their mouths, sharing sippy cups and everything, my daughter never got sick. So much for that, LOL. She was exposed 2 other times, directly, and never got sick. Then she caught them from god knows where at age 8 and had a super mild case. She's a weird one.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
65. Three cheers for your daughter's immune system!
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 07:34 PM
Feb 2014

I have a feeling that this was common practice before vaccines. I would be grateful as a parent today to have all the vaccines available. We had so few, but the ones we had were significant. Putting a stop to polio was huge. I only remember the polio vaccine, since I had to have it twice (the first one "didn't take", and it was a wicked one.)

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. Then there's the shingles!
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 06:44 PM
Feb 2014

Every one of those stupid, ignorant parents ought to read this:
Shingles -- Mayo Clinic

Then, maybe they would make sure their kids get the jab.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
16. Awww....
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 07:33 PM
Feb 2014


that's what a cousin of mine who had them said.

Absolutely miserable.

I hope you're feeling better soon.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
69. You and Keith Olbermann
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 09:14 AM
Feb 2014

I read today that he's doing the same. I wish both of you a speedy recovery.

#goodnightandgoodluck

Downwinder

(12,869 posts)
19. No. But if the vaccine also precludes shingles it makes
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:02 PM
Feb 2014

another reason to get vaccinated. And another argument against this party idea.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
21. It doesn't alas. Older people should get the shingles vaccine no matter whether they had chicken pox
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 09:08 PM
Feb 2014

or the vaccine.

Also, you can get shingles twice. So someone who had shingles in the past is still advised to get the vaccine.

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
42. I'm on infection #3
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:38 AM
Feb 2014

twice in past 6 months. Vaccine costs $250. Which is way out of my affordable range.

Got me on Acyclovir and Pain meds. Not fun though

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
44. I don't know why that isn't covered by the ACA, like the other vaccines.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:30 AM
Feb 2014

Sorry you're suffering with that. My sister had shingles and I know it's not fun.

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
46. I'm alright
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:48 AM
Feb 2014

it's more annoying than anything. If i keep myself busy I tend to not even notice it. This time is on my left leg on the backside just above the ankle.

And yeah.. I asked about insurance coverage, and supposedly, at least at CVS, Walgreens, insurance does not cover it at all.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
59. That not the shingles vaccine. The shingles vaccine is called Zostavax or the Zoster vaccine.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:02 PM
Feb 2014

The chicken pox vaccine is called the varicella vaccine. They are two separate vaccines, and researchers don't know yet whether an earlier vaccine for chicken pox will protect against shingles later on.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
60. Oh..shingles..I thought chickenpox! Shingles is covered under part D...and the
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:11 PM
Feb 2014

shingles vaccine is for people 60 and older, riight?

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
61. The recommended age is 50 and up.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:19 PM
Feb 2014

Originally they were limiting it to 60 and over because of a limited supply. But it actually seems to confer greater immunity if given in the 50's.

Unfortunately, they're not sure yet whether the immunity is permanent, or whether boosters will eventually be necessary.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
63. Ah...well, I hope that's something that can be added to the ACA to cover people who
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:26 PM
Feb 2014

are a bit younger.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
25. I got chicken pox when I was about 8 and was out of school for a week...
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:20 PM
Feb 2014

then my sister (two years younger than me) got it and was out for the next week..

then I got the mumps and was out for the following week..

and then my sister got the mumps and was out for the next week.

If my mom could have given us a vaccine for those illnesses, she would have. It was the month from HELL in her life.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
45. My family was like that except I missed most of the second half of kindergarten.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:32 AM
Feb 2014

We even got exposed to Scarlet Fever at one point. And every time I got something, my mother had three other younger kids to deal with, too.

Drew Richards

(1,558 posts)
26. I wish all these parents would get shingles so they can know what they have potentially
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:31 PM
Feb 2014

Sentenced their children to possibly experience as adults.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
36. People who receive the chicken pox vaccine may still be susceptible to getting shingles.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:16 AM
Feb 2014

The chicken pox vaccine might cause shingles years later, just as an infection does. The jury is still out on that. So no one should assume they'll never need the shingles vaccine, on the basis that they had the chicken pox vaccine.

http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Will-chicken-pox-vaccine-stop-shingles-4254236.php

Dr. Ann Arvin, professor of pediatrics and infectious diseases at Stanford, says doctors aren't yet sure whether this weakened virus will produce shingles immunity, too, or whether it is strong enough to cause shingles years later. In the meantime, she offers advice to adults over 50 who fear shingles' wrath: Get the shingles vaccine. Zostavax, which is also created from a weakened form of varicella, boosts adults' ability to fight the existing virus if it reactivates. The FDA approved the vaccine for people 50 and over in 2011, after a study of 22,000 people showed that people who had the vaccine were 70 percent less likely to get shingles within a year than people who received a placebo. The vaccine's protection lasts at least six years, and research is under way to determine if it lasts longer.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
27. Chicken pox damn near cost me my leg......
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 10:33 PM
Feb 2014

beside killing me. I spent a long time in the hospital in quarantine. I can't believe people want to live in the dark ages when its preventable.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
75. I was about 10 or 11 at the time a scabbed area developed an
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:59 AM
Feb 2014

infection,it became blood poisoning was spreading. The Dr. said he would have to amputate is they could'nt stop the spread. I then developed pneumonia, which they though was spinal meningitis. I was having very high fevers at the time they used alcohol ice baths to get it down.
I spent a couple of months in isolation in the hosptial with a private nurse. After all these years and I still remember her name. I find cold weather, standing on cold floors or pavement still tends to make my leg sensitive some 40+ yrs later.

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
30. I nearly died from the chickenpox... this is a REALLY REALLY REALLY bad idea
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:10 PM
Feb 2014

brought to you by rabid anti-vaccers

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
31. My six kids had it before the vaccine came along -
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:20 PM
Feb 2014

all at about age 2 to 6..

One kid was fine when I dropped him off at school, but covered with spots 20 minutes later when I was called to come get him! I was very lucky to be a stay at home Mom - imagine getting that call as you walk into work!

The youngest has a small scar on the side of her face from the chickenpox. The second youngest was recovering well and running around on the lawn when I went out for an hour; crashed on the couch with a fever and kidney infection when I got home. We spent an evening in the ER getting diagnosis and treatment.

I would have loved to vaccinate my kids, but it was reserved for special cases back then.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
34. In the 1970s, it was considered a good thing to actually come down with it,
Thu Feb 20, 2014, 11:26 PM
Feb 2014

and I'm almost willing to bet the logic I heard back then was that it's better to get it when you're young. Can't recall whether my brother or I got it first, but we both went through it simultaneously. It wasn't the worst thing I ever went through, but couldn't imagine put a kid through that today, now that a vaccine is actually available.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
37. And the virus can go dormant and re-emerge later as shingles,
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 12:36 AM
Feb 2014

an excruciatingly painful disease that directly attacks the nerves and that can keep recurring, even after you make it through the first bout.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
39. Can one request the vaccine as an adult?
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:06 AM
Feb 2014

I never had the chicken pox and growing up there was always a scare it would happen on prom, graduation, all big events. Even though I tried to expose myself to friends who had it because I was told it was better than getting it later in life. Now that I'm older, I worry about getting a bad case of it. I don't go to the doctor at all, so I need to pick one, but it might be a good idea.

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
43. The Mayo Clinic says:
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:39 AM
Feb 2014
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chickenpox/basics/prevention/con-20019025

The chickenpox vaccine (Varivax) is recommended for:

Young children.
In the United States, children receive two doses of the varicella vaccine — the first between ages 12 and 15 months and the second between ages 4 and 6 years — as part of the routine childhood immunization schedule. The vaccine can be combined with the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, but the combination may increase the risk of fever and seizure from the vaccine. Discuss the pros and cons of combining the vaccines with your child's doctor.
Unvaccinated older children. Children ages 7 to 12 years who haven't been vaccinated should receive two catch-up doses of the varicella vaccine, given at least three months apart. Children age 13 or older who haven't been vaccinated should also receive two catch-up doses of the vaccine, given at least four weeks apart.
Unvaccinated adults who've never had chickenpox but are at high risk of exposure. This includes health care workers, teachers, child care employees, international travelers, military personnel, adults who live with young children and all women of childbearing age. Adults who've never had chickenpox or been vaccinated usually receive two doses of the vaccine, four to eight weeks apart. If you don't remember whether you've had chickenpox or the vaccine, a blood test can determine your immunity.

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
41. I was at ER Yesterday
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 05:36 AM
Feb 2014

I have Shingles... for the third time. Had Pox as a kid, pre-vaccine. I'm 32 years old.


BTW, Shingles SUCKS bad. The itching and pain are annoying.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
49. Varicella zoster is what you're really protecting against
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 01:17 PM
Feb 2014

Those who've had chickenpox as children harbor the virus in their nervous system for the rest of their lives. As you get older, or if you become immune suppressed, that virus can reactivate and cause painful, sometimes even life-threatening cases of shingles. The vaccine, followed up by booster shots, protects you from both chickenpox as well as shingles.

MissMillie

(38,553 posts)
50. I wish I had never had chicken pox
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 01:30 PM
Feb 2014

I had them when I was 2. I don't remember the chicken pox very much at all, but when I was 13 I got shingles. Let me tell you--I remember that.

And I'm at a high risk of getting them again some day.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
53. Got it when I was 23.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 01:45 PM
Feb 2014

Somehow I evaded them for that long.

Knocked me on my ass for weeks. I was afraid I was going to die, and at the same time, I kind of hoped I would.

It was the...ahem...scrotal ones I will NEVER forget.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
51. I was the last kid with chicken pox in my family.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 01:35 PM
Feb 2014

I scratch so hard I got some pox marks on my face and forehead from it.
Chicken pox parties are stupid.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
55. 24 years ago daughters doctor said let them catch chicken pox
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:37 PM
Feb 2014

when my older daughter came down with it. She was 11 and her sister 6. My younger daughter didn't get for a few weeks after her sister was finished. Aveno Oatmeal baths and Benadryl.

Compromised immune system factor in shingles? How about stress too? My husband got shingles after having 4 surgeries in 5 years. I would bet both played a factor in his getting shingles.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
58. I had it when I was about 12,
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:54 PM
Feb 2014

and at the same time, my two younger sisters had measles. My poor mother had her hands full at that time with 3 sick kids.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
64. Chickenpox fucked me up, I still have scars. In my mouth, on my face, everywhere.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:30 PM
Feb 2014

My youngest siblings (there are a number of us) had milder cases. One sibling had two little scratchy eruptions, that's all. A couple of mosquito bites.

My mom had a pretty hideous case of shingles, not the kind that just hurts, but the kind doctors get seriously worried about.

When I was working in hospital lab a new mom DIED when her toddler brought home chickenpox from daycare. It got in her lungs. Two little kids lost their mother.

Chickenpox is nothing to mess with.

Oddly, two of my great grandparents survived smallpox pretty much unscathed, with scars little more than my chickenpox. But other people in their families died.

Not a game of dice any sane person would want to play.

My own kids got chicken pox before the vaccine. Only one got them bad.

I got mumps too. Not nice.

Vaccines work.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
66. I had the chicken pox in 1975.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 07:38 PM
Feb 2014

I still have a few scars left over from it. I would rather have had the vaccine...

Anti-vaxxers are just about the stupidest people on the planet...

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
76. Several years ago my favorite uncle died of chickenpox encephalitis
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:33 PM
Feb 2014

at the ripe old age of 72. He never got it as a kid because he grew in a tiny, remote town in NV. As an adult he still lived there. But somebody eventually brought it to town and HE paid for it with his life. It was a hideous way to die, too.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
77. How many ways can this country go backwards at the same time?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:36 PM
Feb 2014

I can't (and I don't particularly want) to keep track, any more......

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
80. got chicken pox in my mid to late 30's
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014

my mother told my wife she was sure i had gotten chicken pox "several times"

so much for my moms disease recognition skills....

anywho

my main memory of it was i answered the door to find my parents who were dropping off some teats and my father took one look at me and said "Holy Cripes" and then he just backed up.

guess i looked pretty damn bad

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