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How did Rachel Maddow do on Bill Maher's show? nt (Original Post) warrior1 Feb 2014 OP
She was great Gothmog Feb 2014 #1
+1, She does her homework and comes loaded with facts and prefaced GOP counter positions uponit7771 Feb 2014 #2
thanks warrior1 Feb 2014 #3
Actually... Maher did give her grief... CherokeeDem Feb 2014 #6
Mahar translated: "Staying on a story is soooo booooring! What's new and shiny?" JHB Feb 2014 #27
Agree... CherokeeDem Feb 2014 #29
Imo, msnbc is going after Chris Christie all the time because there's Cha Feb 2014 #34
I found a video warrior1 Feb 2014 #4
I hate to say it but Brainstormy Feb 2014 #5
I'm the opposite warrior1 Feb 2014 #7
I agree. Dude wants to President. He needs to be exposed BEFORE he gets into office. Atman Feb 2014 #8
I don't get this "lay off Christie" sentiment against Rachel. Paladin Feb 2014 #11
Too much of just rehashing the same information. n-t Logical Feb 2014 #10
It's not all re-hashing. Even more info this morning on UP. Atman Feb 2014 #14
Well, I do agree that keeping it in the forefront is a good thing. n-t Logical Feb 2014 #18
Your statement is 100% inaccurate and DURHAM D Feb 2014 #19
LOL, you mad bro?? n-t Logical Feb 2014 #20
No, I have no reason to be mad but DURHAM D Feb 2014 #21
You Rachel's cousin or something? Somebody needs a nap! Nappy time! :-) Logical Feb 2014 #22
Typical of righties. When you have lost the argument you resort to personal attacks. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #23
Ahhhh.....Your claim is that I cannot find Rachel covering the exact same Christy..... Logical Feb 2014 #26
That's the whole point, they aren't the same issues. New events continue to unfold. If she were okaawhatever Feb 2014 #33
why are you even posting on this thread.... chillfactor Feb 2014 #30
Lol, I think Rachel is repeating herself and that makes me a far right winger even.... Logical Feb 2014 #38
More information comes out every day Motown_Johnny Feb 2014 #35
I agree someone needs to keep the momentum going to get to the truth. The whole truth. nt Snotcicles Feb 2014 #12
+1,000 malaise Feb 2014 #37
This is my opinion on that.. Cha Feb 2014 #36
Did the subject of the COmcast-Time Warner merger come up? hlthe2b Feb 2014 #9
She giggled... procon Feb 2014 #13
I didn't get that from this video warrior1 Feb 2014 #15
OMG she giggled demwing Feb 2014 #17
Wow, the way you interpret her behavior is completely opposite of what I see. SalviaBlue Feb 2014 #25
I watched the video. You'd be wrong about the nevvous giggling part. LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #40
She was great. oldandhappy Feb 2014 #16
Had the press done its job..... dawnie51 Feb 2014 #24
She was outstanding. H2O Man Feb 2014 #28
I got a kick Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #31
She did great. She is so much more relaxed than the first time she was on his show. Dollface Feb 2014 #32
Bill Maher is a trendoid. Archae Feb 2014 #39

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
3. thanks
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:10 AM
Feb 2014

I was wondering if he was going to give her grief over covering the Christie multiple scandals.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
6. Actually... Maher did give her grief...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:25 AM
Feb 2014

And so did the British guy on the panel (sorry forgot his name). Maher said MSNBC was going over the top with coverage about Christie when there were other important stories. Rachel took the criticism head on and stood her ground. Even made Maher acknowledge she had led her show the night before with a non-Christie story. Not even Bill Maher, who I consider quite intelligent, can get anything over Rachel.

She, as always, came prepared and never afraid to engage in debate.

Love this woman....

JHB

(37,160 posts)
27. Mahar translated: "Staying on a story is soooo booooring! What's new and shiny?"
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:47 PM
Feb 2014

In national terms, the notable thing about the Christie story was his status as Centrist Johnny Bravo: he fit the suit -- a Republican with Democratic support, courted the Tea Party but stayed out of the 2012 primary clown show, "pro-business", etc. Everything MSM pundits love (and the rest they were happy to ignore).



CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
29. Agree...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:53 PM
Feb 2014

I think Maher's comment about MSNBC going after Christie because he was a threat to a Democratic challenger was both correct and not so correct. Even with the political bent of MSNBC's evening shows, I still think a lot of the emphasis has to do with the fact Christie was the golden boy for the Republican party. Without him... who? Paul???

Of course being from Kentucky, I kept telling everyone months before Paul was elected Senator... no way he'll win. I was wrong and he scares me. The man is the consummate snake-oil salesman. Smart, slick, and conniving...

I am going on faith that whoever the Democratic nominee is we will rally behind that person with a vengeance against whoever the Repubs put up.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
34. Imo, msnbc is going after Chris Christie all the time because there's
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:40 PM
Feb 2014

so damn much to go after. If Maher, Christie, etc doesn't want a news outlet to go after him so much then Christie and his goons shouldn't have been so corrupt in New Jersey.

Who has suffered the most from Christie and his bidders? The People of New Jersey.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
5. I hate to say it but
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:24 AM
Feb 2014

I really have to agree with Bill on this one. I've skipped Rachel most of this week because of the Christie fixation.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
8. I agree. Dude wants to President. He needs to be exposed BEFORE he gets into office.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:28 AM
Feb 2014

He is a hateful, mean-spirited bully who has no business being the leader of the free world. The time to expose his true self is NOW, not after he's in office as was the case with W.

Paladin

(28,256 posts)
11. I don't get this "lay off Christie" sentiment against Rachel.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:00 PM
Feb 2014

She, her staff, her sources and her guests are engaged in meticulously destroying the one Republican who had any chance of defeating Hillary Clinton in 2016. As a life-long Democrat, Rachel's show has become must-see viewing over the last few weeks. It's one thing for Maher to be griping about the Christie reporting---he's a cranky libertarian, at best. But for the whining to extend into a Democratic site is genuinely unfortunate. And by the way: those of you who have written off Rachel for her supposed 24/7 Christie coverage have missed her masterful detailing of that river pollution by Duke Energy in North Carolina (where the governor worked for Duke for decades). Yet another important story where Rachel is miles ahead of the mainstream media.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
14. It's not all re-hashing. Even more info this morning on UP.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:04 PM
Feb 2014

This is actually big. This man (Christie) is as corrupt as they come, and each day new stuff comes out. Today on UP there were reporters and government officials who had even more dirt on him, as recently as phone calls made last night. Christie is a shit show, and must not be allowed to make it to Washington in any capacity. I welcome Rachel and Kornacki exposing him. No complaints at all. Keep that stink in New Jersey (sorry to my New Jersey friends...too bad the state can't shake it's reputation!).

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
19. Your statement is 100% inaccurate and
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:15 PM
Feb 2014

proof that you don't watch her show. Why do you have an opinion on something you know nothing about?

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
26. Ahhhh.....Your claim is that I cannot find Rachel covering the exact same Christy.....
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:45 PM
Feb 2014

Issues from one show to the next and even to next week.

Is that your claim?

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
33. That's the whole point, they aren't the same issues. New events continue to unfold. If she were
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:36 PM
Feb 2014

repeating the same story about the bridge and the two staffers it would be repetitive. We've gotten into land deals, police appointments and possible police collusion with the story the bridge closing was the fault of the Mayor. Job contracts for the police union in exchange for endorsement. The law fir of Wolff Samson and their involvement in so many different deals. The coaching for four days of the Christie staffer who testified before the state legislature. The fact that that coaching was done by an attorney on staff for the port authority (his testimony is in question so there's another layer there). Christie's handling of the Sandy money and how different projects received preferential treatment. And on and on. Not the same Christie issues at all......

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
30. why are you even posting on this thread....
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 01:26 PM
Feb 2014

outside of making a fool of yourself....it is obvious you have never watched Rachel's in-depth story coverage including Duke energy among others...she is one of the best journalists we have today....you have definitely nailed yourself as a far right-winger...and your childish posts emphasis that point...you do know there are blogs where children post...you would be better off on those blogs....

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
38. Lol, I think Rachel is repeating herself and that makes me a far right winger even....
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:55 PM
Feb 2014

Though I he a been here 2 years and have over 10,000 posts? Are you drunk?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
35. More information comes out every day
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 03:41 PM
Feb 2014

If you are not keeping up, that is your fault.

Don't blame the rest of the world for wanting to keep current.


hlthe2b

(102,255 posts)
9. Did the subject of the COmcast-Time Warner merger come up?
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:58 AM
Feb 2014

I think silence on that will cost Rachel dearly--even though I understand how tied her hands must be...

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. She giggled...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:02 PM
Feb 2014

a lot. Loud, nervous giggling. It was distracting and it got worse the more Bill griped about the Christie coverage, and it made her look guilty as charged and culpable.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
15. I didn't get that from this video
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:06 PM
Feb 2014

She's right this is a big story. I've been watching every night and they do cover other stories.

SalviaBlue

(2,916 posts)
25. Wow, the way you interpret her behavior is completely opposite of what I see.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:43 PM
Feb 2014


She is sincere and self confident.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
16. She was great.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:09 PM
Feb 2014

I love her excellent preparation and ability to pull up facts and make sensible comments. And, yes, I have been known to mute the Christie stuff now and then. And there were days during Watergate when I did not read the paper. I have skipped coverage here and there over the years. And I am grateful grateful there are people out there with persistence to get these stories in the paper or on air or on the internet. We may get tired, and we need to know.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
24. Had the press done its job.....
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:39 PM
Feb 2014

Christie would have been exposed long ago and not be sitting with 4 more years as NJ governor to rape and pillage the state. The time to find out the truth is BEFORE the election, and this guy aspires to be president. Hell yes, we need to know every last detail, and if it's a little wonkish, or boring, or hard to comprehend, even more reason. I applaud Kornacki and Maddow and all who have been instrumental in getting this corrupt bastard exposed.

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
28. She was outstanding.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 12:49 PM
Feb 2014

In my opinion, it was one of her very best performances. I'd grade it as the highest mark possible. She has an outstanding sense of humor, that allowed her to put a couple of critics in check -- politely, at that.

The scandals destroying NJ Governor Chris Chrispie are hugely significant. Attempts to downplay them, or dismiss the high-quality reporting on MSNBC, are shallow, at best. Rachel ranks at the top of MSNBC per these scandals. There are, of course, talented and dedicated people behind the scenes at MSNBC, who are building the foundation that Rachel and others stand upon while reporting the stories. And everyone in the Democratic Party and Democratic Left should be thankful, and supportive. Indeed, high quality journalism -- especially investigative -- is a rare gem in the world of corporate media.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
31. I got a kick
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:00 PM
Feb 2014

out of her response to the guy from the National Review (forgot his name) when he was trying to say that supposedly all MSNBC covers now is Bridge-gate. She basically laughed in his face and told him that there are other stories that they've covered, as well, and that she is "unapologetic" about covering the story so much.
Rachel is not really my #1 cable news personality, but I agree that she was sharp last night.

Dollface

(1,590 posts)
32. She did great. She is so much more relaxed than the first time she was on his show.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 02:50 PM
Feb 2014

As for the Christie coverage, I am fascinated by it, but then I love the minutiae of complex political scandals. I can see, however, that it could get boring if its not a thing you're into.

Archae

(46,327 posts)
39. Bill Maher is a trendoid.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 04:04 PM
Feb 2014

He likes to jump from one thing to another, but those with actual interest and outrage about the corruption in New Jersey don't share Maher's ADD.

When Maher tried (and failed) to make MSNBC look funny when they cut away from an important issue to a Justin Bieber fluff story, it wasn't funny. It was just another example of going for "trendy" bullshit.

I think Maher is still mad at the networks when he was a kid running the Watergate hearings that cut into his watching re-runs of Scooby-Doo.

Rachel pointed out quite correctly, that we still in the case of the New Jersey scandals, know why.

Why the bridge was closed.
Why the big lie about a "traffic study" was even attempted.
Why Christie's cronies and sycophants got Sandy relief money while non-sycophants did not.
Why jobs were created JUST so as to give Christie cronies big-money non-jobs.

And so on.

Bill Maher is so typical of the average news viewer nowadays, wanting the next new shiny distraction.

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