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Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:10 PM Feb 2014

Hey Tea Party Arseholes...here's what a real Patriot looks like:

Well done, Sir.



Florida man shocked to learn of Medal of Honor

"Melvin Morris was commanding a strike force on a mission near Chi Lang, South Vietnam, when his Special Forces group came under attack and a fellow commander was killed near an enemy bunker.

Despite massive enemy fire directed at him and his men, hitting him three times, the 72-year-old Morris told The Associated Press on Friday that he was able to get to his fallen comrade and recover the body. He also retrieved a map that included strategic information that would have been trouble if it fell into enemy hands.

More than four decades later, as a way to try to correct potential acts of bias spanning three wars, President Barack Obama will bestow the Medal of Honor on the Florida man and 23 other veterans. They come after a decade-long congressionally mandated review of minorities who may have been passed over for the U.S. military's highest honor because of long-held prejudices.

Morris became one of the first soldiers to don a "green beret" in 1961 and volunteered twice for deployments to Vietnam during the war. After his Sept 17, 1969, ordeal, the then-Staff Sgt. Morris received a Distinguished Service Cross in 1970. He said he never realized that being black might have kept the higher honor from him..."

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/u-s-world/florida-man-shocked-to-learn-of-medal-of-honor

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Hey Tea Party Arseholes...here's what a real Patriot looks like: (Original Post) Contrary1 Feb 2014 OP
A brave man, for sure. Worthy of the honor. 1000words Feb 2014 #1
According to Merriam-Webster. dballance Feb 2014 #2
To be applicable ... 1000words Feb 2014 #3
That's not a very good argument against an individual. dballance Feb 2014 #5
Fair enough 1000words Feb 2014 #6
They too were, are patriots rustydog Feb 2014 #8
I absolutely agree with you about the protesters and people like occupy. dballance Feb 2014 #17
My pleasure ... and thank you. 1000words Feb 2014 #19
Yep, Illegal war, fought buy War Enablers. bahrbearian Feb 2014 #18
Wow. I'm glad I'm not you. cliffordu Feb 2014 #10
Thanks for sharing 1000words Feb 2014 #11
Amen.. He is a Patriot. Narraback Feb 2014 #4
Then all DUers (xcept trolls) are patriots. AAO Feb 2014 #12
The Tea Partiers will have to see his birth certificate Faygo Kid Feb 2014 #7
Damn,...beat me to it. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #13
I love that man. cliffordu Feb 2014 #9
Fox TV Station will be calling it "Reverse Discrimination Heroism". Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #14
What say you, Ted? stagmeyer Feb 2014 #15
Here's a pic of Melvin Morris back in his Military Days.. Cha Feb 2014 #16
Thank you Staff Sgt Morris! Scuba Feb 2014 #20
 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
2. According to Merriam-Webster.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:54 PM
Feb 2014
pa·tri·otnoun \ˈpā-trē-ət, -ˌät, chiefly British ˈpa-trē-ət\
: a person who loves and strongly supports or fights for his or her country

By the above definition he sure seems like a patriot to me.
 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
3. To be applicable ...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:00 PM
Feb 2014

One would have to view the Vietnam War as a legal and just cause. While it in no way diminishes his heroic actions, it can easily be argued it was not in the country's best interests.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
5. That's not a very good argument against an individual.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:20 PM
Feb 2014

He performed an act or acts of individual heroism in service to his country. Presumably believing all the while that his nation was engaged in a legal and morally defensible war. So, to me, his actions are patriotic. We should not be arm-chair generals over four or five decades after the fact and try to judge the "shoulda" and "coulda" by the individuals in these instances of heroism.

By your logic, every person awarded any citation in the Iraq war should not have been awarded anything because, now, we know it was all a big lie.

Just because our despicable "leaders" led us into unjust conflicts it does not negate the individual acts of heroism performed by our service members in those conflicts who fully believed their commanders sent them into just and legal conflicts.

You may argue the overall conflicts were not in the best interests of our country and I'd agree with you. I fail to see how you can argue that individual acts of heroism (e.g. saving another service member under fire) are not in the best interests of our country.

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
6. Fair enough
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:27 PM
Feb 2014

I happen to think those who protested the wars are patriots. Heroes, even. Some paid with their lives, or freedom.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
8. They too were, are patriots
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:03 PM
Feb 2014

it is when you are willing to stand up and be heard regardless of the outcome (arrest, jail) because you believe what you are doing is right. you are heroic and patriotic.

Sadly, Mitt Romney's protests supporting drafting brave young men to fight and die because he didn't want to join the military makes my statement a tad weak.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
17. I absolutely agree with you about the protesters and people like occupy.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 09:07 PM
Feb 2014

I feel the people who protested the war are definitely patriots. Their patriotism was especially difficult to display in a different way from the soldiers. Especially since the media and politicians were hyping things as such a just war, speaking of Iraq.



by the way, thanks for a sane discussion without name-calling or hair on fire kind of stuff.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
7. The Tea Partiers will have to see his birth certificate
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 06:42 PM
Feb 2014

before they acknowledge he's not Kenyan. And even then, they will say it's forged.

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