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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:41 PM Feb 2014

Polluting Appalachia’s Streams With Mountaintop Removal Mining Just Got Harder

Polluting Appalachia’s Streams With Mountaintop Removal Mining Just Got Harder

By Ryan Koronowski

This week the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia tossed out a late-2008 Bush Administration decision to scrap a decades-old rule protecting streams from the spoils of mountaintop removal mining. It said the rule violated the Endangered Species Act.

Use of the word “spoil” is not rhetoric here, it is the technical term for the broken rock that coal mining operators create after drilling, blasting, or bulldozing the tops of mountains to get access to the coal underneath. Since the spoil takes up more room when broken up, the companies cannot put it back where it came from, so they dump it elsewhere — often in the tops of valleys, burying streams.

The rule in question, issued in 1983, established a buffer zone around streams to keep toxic coal mining spoil from entering sensitive waterways. In December 2008, the outgoing Bush Administration issued its own “Stream Buffer Zone Rule” that essentially removed those protections. The National Parks Conservation Association challenged the rule, and lawyers from the Southern Environmental Law Center argued the case. The Interior Department and the Environmental Protection Agency are defendants in the case, though they asked the Court to rule against them in a September hearing. The National Mining Association protested the government’s position as an intervening defendant, arguing that the government erred in partially conceding the case.

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Last year, the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that EPA had the authority under the Clean Water Act to veto so-called “dredge and fill” permits that allowed mining companies dispose of waste in streams. The decision confirmed EPA’s rejection of a permit for what would have been one of the largest mountaintop removal mines in West Virginia history.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/02/22/3320911/mountaintop-removal-mining-stream-buffer-rule/


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Polluting Appalachia’s Streams With Mountaintop Removal Mining Just Got Harder (Original Post) ProSense Feb 2014 OP
Please let this be true Curmudgeoness Feb 2014 #1
Two videos: ProSense Feb 2014 #5
+1 El_Johns Feb 2014 #12
Hope it stands. K&R /nt think Feb 2014 #2
Thank You For Posting This.... Laxman Feb 2014 #3
and maybe a sign of much more to come.. it's time, with all these spills Voice for Peace Feb 2014 #8
We need to push hard... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #4
Yes, ProSense Feb 2014 #14
Thanks very much for casting one ray of sunshine... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #6
Kick! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #7
Honestly, I'm a bit ambivalent about mountaintop removal. X_Digger Feb 2014 #9
Good....Good....Good bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #10
Good. The rule should have never been scrapped. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #11
bush-cheney coup came in and Cha Feb 2014 #13
The assualt continues: Conservatives Look To Curb EPA Power To Limit Carbon Emissions In Court ProSense Feb 2014 #15
Enemies of the Planet.. I imagine Cha Feb 2014 #21
Here are a few links for folks theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #16
Thanks. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #19
Good, but Obama's TPP will allow multinational corporations woo me with science Feb 2014 #17
LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #20
Good! Mountain top removal is horrible! NutmegYankee Feb 2014 #18
KnR Hekate Feb 2014 #22
Looking at mountains that have had the tops blown off boston bean Feb 2014 #23

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
1. Please let this be true
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:47 PM
Feb 2014

and please let it work to stop the decimation of coal country----some of the most beautiful scenery we have before it is destroyed.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
3. Thank You For Posting This....
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:21 PM
Feb 2014

I'll have to read through this decision. I was just preparing my lecture on the Clean Water Act (how sad it that for a Saturday night?) for next week and mountain top mining and fracking always figure prominently in the lesson. Very timely. The last few years, this has been a depressing/anger inducing lecture. Perhaps I can be a bit more optimistic this semester. I knew the SELC had the suit pending but I wasn't aware it had been decided. This has the potential to be an extremely positive development.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
8. and maybe a sign of much more to come.. it's time, with all these spills
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 12:40 AM
Feb 2014

getting so much attention.

thanks to the internet, Facebook.. little can be hidden
any more and when everybody starts seeing, really looking
at what's been going on with toxifying our planet, the law
is getting involved.

I am hopeful.. good on you for teaching about clean water
sanity.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
4. We need to push hard...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:29 PM
Feb 2014

for more solar and wind power. What they are doing to the once beautiful Appalachians (yes, even the part that goes through WV ) is horrible.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Yes,
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:08 AM
Feb 2014

"We need to push hard for more solar and wind power."

...a huge push is needed.

U.S. Approves Two Huge Solar Projects On Public Lands In California
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10024547836

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
6. Thanks very much for casting one ray of sunshine...
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:53 PM
Feb 2014

... onto what has been a dismal time for the mountains and for those who love them.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
9. Honestly, I'm a bit ambivalent about mountaintop removal.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:09 AM
Feb 2014

I grew up in Southwest Virginia, coal country. The only flat land available was flood plain down next to creeks and rivers.

If you lived on flat land, chances are you would be flooded once every 40-50 years. 1957, 1976, 1983, 1991- all saw a large portion of the town flooded.

There was little land for farming, no land for manufacturing or any kind of industry. Just coal.

A bit of flat land could mean a lot of economic opportunity to towns like that.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=grundy,+va&hl=en&ll=37.27699,-82.090788&spn=0.024211,0.044632&sll=31.168934,-100.076842&sspn=13.309797,22.851563&t=h&hnear=Grundy,+Buchanan+County,+Virginia&z=15&iwloc=A


Cha

(297,196 posts)
13. bush-cheney coup came in and
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 06:52 AM
Feb 2014

marauded everything.. blood and treasure. McCain-palin would have finished us off.

thanks ProSense~

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
15. The assualt continues: Conservatives Look To Curb EPA Power To Limit Carbon Emissions In Court
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:12 AM
Feb 2014
Conservatives Look To Curb EPA Power To Limit Carbon Emissions In Court

WASHINGTON (AP) — Industry groups and Republican-led states are heading an attack at the Supreme Court against the Obama administration's sole means of trying to limit power-plant and factory emissions of gases blamed for global warming.

As President Barack Obama pledges to act on environmental and other matters when Congress doesn't, or won't, opponents of regulating carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases cast the rule as a power grab of historic proportions.

The court is hearing arguments Monday about a small but important piece of the Environmental Protection Agency's plans to cut the emissions — a requirement that companies expanding industrial facilities or building new ones that would increase overall pollution must also evaluate ways to reduce the carbon they release.

Environmental groups and even some of their opponents say that whatever the court decides, EPA still will be able to move forward with broader plans to set emission standards for greenhouse gases for new and existing power plants.

- more -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/conservative-epa-supreme-court

Cha

(297,196 posts)
21. Enemies of the Planet.. I imagine
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 03:49 PM
Feb 2014

caring smart people in other countries are looking at this in horror.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
17. Good, but Obama's TPP will allow multinational corporations
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014

to overrule, sue over, and ultimately destroy national environmental regulations.

Once again, the Third Way tries to celebrate offering us a band-aid with the left hand, while using the right to punch us out, foul the planet, and steal millions.

You cannot claim to care about the environment and simultaneously push the mammoth, predatory TPP. They are just as violently mutually exclusive as claiming to care about income inequality and pushing the TPP.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. LOL!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:23 PM
Feb 2014

"Good, but Obama's TPP will allow multinational corporations"

Translation: Good, but Obama sucks.

Obama EPA Revokes Largest Mountaintop Removal Permit in US History
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x591504

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
18. Good! Mountain top removal is horrible!
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 11:39 AM
Feb 2014

It's a complete destruction of the beauty and majesty of Appalachia.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
23. Looking at mountains that have had the tops blown off
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 04:54 PM
Feb 2014

make me want to cry. I can't stand to see it.

That this is allowed to happen just shows you how far greed and purchase of politicians to allow this has gone..

It is a crime to do this to our environment. Just looking at it you can see the pure evil associated with it.

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