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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDick Cheney rips Obama for defense cuts: “He would much rather spend the money on food stamps"
Absolutely dangerous, Cheney told Fox News host Sean Hannity. I, obviously, have not been a strong supporter of Barack Obama but this really is over the top. It does enormous long-term damage to our military.
Theyre basically making the decision, the Obama administration, that they no longer want to be dominant on the seas and the skies and in space, the former vice president added. This notion that we no longer want to have a force thats capable of any sustained occupation of a foreign territory, thats a basic fundamental decision that drives supposedly justifies this. But lots of times, you dont get to make that choice. Circumstances will make that choice for you.
Cheney said that his old friends in the Middle East had told him that they no longer trusted the United States to use military power when it was necessary.
I think the whole thing is not driven by any change in world circumstances, its driven by budget considerations, he insisted. He would much rather spend the money on food stamps than he would on a strong military or support for our troops.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/25/dick-cheney-rips-obama-for-defense-cuts-spend-on-military-not-food-stamps/
get the red out
(13,462 posts)than build bombs. It is disgusting that accusing the President of that is considered an insult.
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)the proposed cuts are good start but need to go much deeper.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Wanna hear a bad thing?
Cheney said that his old friends in the Middle East....
Cheney still thinks he's in power?
Marr
(20,317 posts)I'm still scratching my head over that one. Seriously, who considers themselves the enemy of people who try to 'do good'?
He seems to be a sort of real-life Snidely Whiplash.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)...would rather spend taxpayer dollars on caring for American citizens less fortunate than most instead of spending taxpayer dollars to wreak havoc, destruction, and death around the world on the whim of corporations of Haliburton.
Yep...that's our tyrant.
sawdust
(199 posts)POS warmonger
My Good Babushka
(2,710 posts)how would we have a strong, nourished military force without them?
JHB
(37,159 posts)...that deficits don't matter" and actually paid for your wars rather than putting them all on the national credit card, maybe "budget considerations" would not be such a big thing.
You're a warped, frustrated old man, Dick, and responsible for the deaths of thousands. Shut the fuck up.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Led by the "Department of Defense".
durablend
(7,460 posts)Why hasn't that damn dictator in the WH invaded a few more countries already?
Feed the useless eaters in this country? PFFT!
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,834 posts)riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)cinnabonbon
(860 posts)FOODSTAMPS. How terrible.
It just goes to show that Cheney is still a heartless old bastard. Now if he could only be convinced of war crimes, life would be swell.
jsr
(7,712 posts)Evil fuck.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)to knock over some of our buildings, and we totally forgave them and pretended they never did it. That was really nice of you, Dickster.
Jasana
(490 posts)The military budget is ridiculously high. Mine is not. When my food stamps were cut by $60.00, my doctor put me on a medication with a $250.00 co-pay. How are people on fixed incomes supposed to deal with things like that? I don't think Cheney even knows he's stepping on me down here.
sinkingfeeling
(51,454 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)"When the Cold War ended 20 years ago, when I was Chairman [of the Joint Chiefs] and Mr. [Richard] Cheney was Secretary of Defense, we cut the defense budget by 25 percent, and we reduced the force by 500,000 active duty soldiers."
--Retired Gen. Colin L. Powell, January 23, 2011
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2011/01/cutting_the_defense_budget.html
CHENEY GIVES PLAN TO REDUCE FORCES BY 25% IN 5 YEARS
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/20/us/cheney-gives-plan-to-reduce-forces-by-25-in-5-years.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/21/us/cheney-s-cuts-called-inadequate-because-of-programs-he-d-spare.html
http://history.defense.gov/cheney.shtml
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/107932/CHENEY-OUTLINES-5-YEAR-PLAN-TO-REDUCE-FORCES-BY-25-PERCENT.html?pg=all
scrutineer
(1,156 posts)As SecDef Cheney proposed defense cuts because of budget concerns. Then, after many of those proposed cuts were made during the Clinton administration, VP candidate Cheney criticized reduced military expenditures.
Huh.
Knowing what a stickler for accuracy Sean Hannity is, I wonder why he didn't point that out.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)his cuts went into effect over a series of years into Clinton's first term.....WhoTF do they think they are snowballing.
KG
(28,751 posts)sure is a bloodthirsty bastard for such a craven draft-dodger
spanone
(135,830 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)whenever I see Cheney...
Mine eyes have seen the orgy of the launching of the Sword;
He is searching out the hoardings where the stranger's wealth is stored;
He hath loosed his fateful lightnings, and with woe and death has scored;
His lust is marching on.
I have seen him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps;
They have builded him an altar in the Eastern dews and damps;
I have read his doomful mission by the dim and flaring lamps
His night is marching on.
I have read his bandit gospel writ in burnished rows of steel:
"As ye deal with my pretensions, so with you my wrath shall deal;
Let the faithless son of Freedom crush the patriot with his heel;
Lo, Greed is marching on!"
We have legalized the strumpet and are guarding her retreat;*
Greed is seeking out commercial souls before his judgement seat;
O, be swift, ye clods, to answer him! be jubilant my feet!
Our god is marching on!
In a sordid slime harmonious Greed was born in yonder ditch,
With a longing in his bosomand for others' goods an itch.
As Christ died to make men holy, let men die to make us rich
Our god is marching on.
* NOTE: In Manila the Government has placed a certain industry under the protection of our flag. (M.T.)
I wonder why?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)It's all or nothing with that guy.
Reducing the standing force doesn't preclude maintaining a force capable of addressing immediate threats or the future expansion via mobilization in the face of a new threat.
Cheney has clear biases that parallel his conflict of interests with private military contractors who get rich handling logistical support of those armies occupying foreign lands.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Makes me proud of my votes for Obama.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Of course the serial killer wants people to starve to death here while killing as many as he can in his oil wars. What's your death count up to now you heartless evil cretin?
Aristus
(66,328 posts)serve in a war he supported".
Just one more snivelling coward in a party absolutely bursting at the seams with them...
3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...sign to this warhawk who never served but is just fine with sending everyone else's sons and daughters into combat. STFU, Cheney. And your evil spawn, too.
Glitterati
(3,182 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)I would much rather the heart that is beating in your chest had gone to someone WORTHY...not you.
You, who bought your way to the top of the list with blood money.
Rot in hell...you evil, fucking maggot.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)And if Cheney is against it, it must be the right thing to do.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)louis-t
(23,292 posts)Food stamps return more money to the economy than they cost.
Dear Dumbass Dick,
Neocons should shut the fuck up about "budget considerations", since you drove this country into a depression, doubled the national debt, doubled the deficit, started 2 wars with no intention of paying for any of it, then shoved a bunch of money in your pocket. Your excuse that "stuff happens" was bought by no one.
Dear Dumbass Dick,
The next time you think we should start a war with someone for business reasons, maybe you can offer to be first in line. You know, show up with your shotgun and shoot somebody in the face.
Dumbass.
Botany
(70,501 posts)BTW nice job supporting the troops w/your unneeded war in Iraq, Dick.
4,000 + dead, 30,000 to 50,0000 wounded or PTSD or long term
illnesses, and God only knows how many dead and wounded Iraqis.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)according to one of the shows last night. Hope someone finds this and brings it to the forefront. I will look but I am marginally successful at this stuff, smile.
TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)budget. The Pentagon is shedding some personnel from its peak of two simultaneous invasions and occupations, losing some older planes, cutting back on some new questionable ships and an old spy plane that is replaced by drones. It's being made out (by the usual nutz) to be complete disarmament when it's actually very moderate in cuts.
Lasher
(27,579 posts)That was back when he was Secretary of Defense under Poppy Bush.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Go fuck yourself.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Because I'm pretty sure there's no shortage of people around the world that would like nothing better than more than to piss on his headstone when he's finally taken the permanent dirt nap.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)as long as they aren't in the womb, they could not care less. It's all about controlling women, who are interested in feeding children.
bpj62
(999 posts)I have to say that I am completely puzzled by this man. Is he so insulated from the rest of the world that he has no clue of his own defense cuts after the cold war was over. I have come to the conclusion that people like him truly live in an alternate reality and he will go to the grave never realizing that there is another view of the world that he has no clue exists. This man has made so much money off the suffering and death of others. I do believe that he is truly evil and that he has no soul or compassion at all. This is a man who accidentally shot a friend and made his friend apologize. He is also a man who destroyed a life long friendship with Mike Enzi simply because his daughter chose to run for the Senate. If there is a hell Dick Cheney certainly has a seat in the penthouse suite reserved
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)who even cares what that war criminal thinks!
indepat
(20,899 posts)Sincerely
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)wonder if Darth ever heard of this guy?
"...Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed..."
D.D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953, Washington D.C.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Most people go from the starting point that 'those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed,' is a bad thing for mankind to do. It's pretty clear Darth thinks that is an excellent outcome.
frylock
(34,825 posts)let them fight their own fucking wars.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)than killing people.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)People having food... bad!
People getting medical treatment... bad!
People getting the shit blown out of them... Great!
KansDem
(28,498 posts)So just shut up and enjoy what the rest of us can only dream about.
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)Dick and Sean want the US to invade Iran. Downsizing the US Army would interfere with their plan.
mike_c
(36,281 posts)Unfortunately, I don't agree with Cheney that that's Obama's position, but it is certainly mine. I completely support feeding the hungry and creating economic justice in place of maintaining America's bloated military. Completely.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Darth never grasped this either:
Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.
The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)Truman would have thrown away the key.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)dcsix
(1 post)This story reminds me of the film "Ali", where Joe Frazier has Ali on the ropes, and Ali is saying to him "C'mon Joe, is that all you got?" "Is that the best you can do?" "C'mon Joe"
C'mon Dick, is that all you got? Is that really the best you can do?
And I love how he says "...Circumstances will make that choice for you. Don't you mean circumstances and war criminals, Dick?
gopiscrap
(23,758 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Do tell.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Food stamps for poor families instead of money for things like the Joint Strike Fighter?
Fiend!
davekriss
(4,616 posts)I thought he would have left the earth by now, descended into some fiery hellish hole somewhere already...