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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 08:07 PM Feb 2014

Homeowner Who Shot Unarmed Elderly Man With Alzheimer’s Wandering His Property Won’t Be Charged

Homeowner Who Shot Unarmed Elderly Man With Alzheimer’s Wandering His Property Won’t Be Charged
BY NICOLE FLATOW ON FEBRUARY 28, 2014 AT 3:28 PM

The Walker County, Ga., District Attorney said Friday he will not press charges against the homeowner who shot and killed an elderly man wandering on his property. 72-year-old Ronald Westbrook, who has Alzheimer’s disease, had been walking around the Chickamauga area, a rural neighborhood in north Georgia, when he walked onto Joe Hendrix’s property at around 2:30 a.m. Hendrix’s fiancée called 911 and a deputy was dispatched. But before he arrived, Hendrix took matters into his own hands, walking out the front door and firing three or four shots at Westbrook, one of which hit him in the chest.

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In an email to ThinkProgress, Franklin explained his decision not to charge Hendrix: “In interviews immediately after the shooting, Hendrix claimed he acted in self-defense. In Georgia, the prosecution bears the burden of disproving a self defense claim beyond a reasonable doubt. After looking at the facts from Hendrix’ perspective, it would be impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hendrix did not reasonably act in self defense.”

He later confirmed that he was referring to particularly robust protections for homeowners known as the “Castle Doctrine,” which allows deadly force without a duty to retreat to protect the home.

Georgia is one of many states with aggressive provisions that permit deadly force in self-defense, both inside and outside the home. Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson told the Times Free Press in Chattanooga, Tenn., that he expected the district attorney to consider Georgia’s Stand Your Ground law in deciding whether to press charges. “In my personal opinion, I believe that [Hendrix] should have stayed inside the house,” Wilson said. “Did he violate any laws by exiting the house? No.”


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/02/28/3347801/district-attorney-wont-charge-resident-shot-dead-elderly-man-alzheimers-property/

It seems that the NRA and their supporters have crafted laws which put the right to shoot someone above all other rights, shooting victims no longer have any rights because a gun toting killer can take every last one of their rights away in an instant and call it "self defense". No matter how absurd that claim of self defense is, their right to kill has been given priority over our right to life.
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Homeowner Who Shot Unarmed Elderly Man With Alzheimer’s Wandering His Property Won’t Be Charged (Original Post) Bjorn Against Feb 2014 OP
Because I'm sure that an addled, 72-year-old SoCalNative Feb 2014 #1
gun humpers are cowards Skittles Feb 2014 #10
How sad Politicalboi Feb 2014 #2
fucking chickenshit coward frylock Feb 2014 #3
I'm guessing this guy will walk as well: Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #4
He Might Not Walk erpowers Mar 2014 #21
I don't agree with this. chrisa Feb 2014 #5
In a real home invasion pipoman Mar 2014 #16
What I meant by that was, if the intruder is outside, don't run out and attack them. chrisa Mar 2014 #23
agreed pipoman Mar 2014 #24
Some areas of this country are going insane. I would be afraid to travel there. n/t Peregrine Took Feb 2014 #6
So where was the "cylindrical object "? ThoughtCriminal Feb 2014 #7
cowards with guns Skittles Feb 2014 #8
Already had a Pro-RKBA friend try to justify this killing. Jake Stern Feb 2014 #9
RKBA? erpowers Mar 2014 #12
RKBA is "Right to Keep and Bear Arms". Blue_Adept Mar 2014 #17
Thank You erpowers Mar 2014 #22
He went outside d_r Mar 2014 #11
He walked outside aimed the gun sorefeet Mar 2014 #13
Cold blooded murder. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #14
sad story for sure. . pipoman Mar 2014 #15
Human life is that cheap in Walker County. lpbk2713 Mar 2014 #18
This "stand your ground" shit has given carte blanche to these assholes bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #19
Not surprising. Bettie Mar 2014 #20
As a gun owner and CCW license holder this is pure BS.... Logical Mar 2014 #25
Well, you know how the courts hate interfering in people's business rock Mar 2014 #26
Another case of imaginary gun "rights" elevated above all our genuine rights. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #27
In Texas, you can kill someone to protect property Gothmog Mar 2014 #28

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
21. He Might Not Walk
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014

The guy in that case might actually go to jail. How can he claim they were a threat? They were just sitting in a car. After he discharged the first shot they tried to turn the car around. There seems to have been no reason for him to continue shooting.

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
5. I don't agree with this.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 09:12 PM
Feb 2014

Had the man tried to break into his house, it would be iffy. Going outside and shooting? No.

Rule one is - stay inside. Seriously - even in a real home invasion: Don't go outside!

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
16. In a real home invasion
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:08 AM
Mar 2014

Not going outside means either stay and fight or give in to the intruder. I'm not sure always staying in the house is a hard and fast rule that should be followed..

chrisa

(4,524 posts)
23. What I meant by that was, if the intruder is outside, don't run out and attack them.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:36 AM
Mar 2014

There's a chance they might not be able to get in, or will be scared off. Running out and attacking an intruder is just dumb. Of course, if they get in you probably want to run outside (the other way), but running outside to confront someone on your property is giving up a place of advantage and safety (your house).

If you can't get out and are armed, your house is much safer than outside in the dark facing an unknown number of attackers. You know your house and it's choke points. Running into the darkness is stupid and can get you ambushed/killed.

I don't understand the people that run out and confront someone that's outside. Just stay in your house as long as you can!

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
9. Already had a Pro-RKBA friend try to justify this killing.
Fri Feb 28, 2014, 10:23 PM
Feb 2014

Claimed that if they had charged the guy then millions of women and disabled people would be afraid to defend themselves.

So now the way to support shoot-at-will gun laws is to hide behind women and the disabled?

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
13. He walked outside aimed the gun
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:48 AM
Mar 2014

and shot 3 or 4 times, killing an old man who didn't have a clue. Kind of like a stray dog. Another state off my travel list. Some of these states scare the fuck out of me.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
14. Cold blooded murder.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 09:55 AM
Mar 2014

I live in an urban area. Transients walk through my yard quite often. I have even found broken pipes and needles before. Also, old ladies looking for their cats tend to be drawn to my garage. Sometimes it is a little freaky and I do not quite like it, but I would not walk outside and shoot anyone for walking through or looking for their cat.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
15. sad story for sure. .
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:01 AM
Mar 2014

The alternative to the prosecution's burden of proving it wasn't self defense is the homeowner having to prove it was, an equally difficult task with a whole series of problems associated with it too.

From the description of the incident in the story it seems plausible that the prosecution could prove a reasonable person wouldn't be in fear of being killed or seriously injured. Not sure what circumstances would be that would keep them from trying.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
18. Human life is that cheap in Walker County.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:16 AM
Mar 2014



Apparently you can snuff out a life at will even though you know the police are enroute.


bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
19. This "stand your ground" shit has given carte blanche to these assholes
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:30 AM
Mar 2014

that previously only got to get their rocks off by blowing away stray cats and dogs that wander into their yards. Now they get to do it to stray humans.

Bettie

(16,107 posts)
20. Not surprising.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:30 AM
Mar 2014

Did anyone really think he'd be charged?

We're a right to kill nation now*.

*Right to kill is limited to white males, anyone else will be prosecuted and likely convicted.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
25. As a gun owner and CCW license holder this is pure BS....
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 10:48 AM
Mar 2014

This idiot home owner was not threatened at all. If this man kicked in his front door I would understand, but wandering around his yard is not a threat.
Call the damn police and wait in your house.

Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
28. In Texas, you can kill someone to protect property
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 12:46 PM
Mar 2014

Texas has expanded the castle doctrine to include personal property. You can kill someone who is trying to steal your property in Texas

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