For the Putin-arse-kissers among us:

[riqster]

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http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/for-the-putin-arse-kissers-among-us/

"He is a despicable mass murderer, warmongering, profiteering, homophobic serial invader of sovereign nations, and by all rights should be doing time in a UN prison. Without possibility of parole.

Putin can aid and abet a wanker who fancied himself a tech wiz and become a darling of libertarians on the left and right, and that may charm them into thinking he is a good guy, but the reality is quite different. One calculated act of maskirova does not outweigh the brutal repression , invasions, and perversions of justice for his own benefit. And that isn’t even including the crimes against humanity committed during his KGB days.

A question to any and all Putinistas, Putin apologists , Putin fans, and suchlike: how in the f***ing f*** can you do it? In the face of these atrocities, how can you give aid and comfort to such a monster?

And what does your support for a demon make you? Just a gullible idiot? Or a monster yourself? "

Source material at the link.

On update: this is a repost of a blog that is posted outside of DU and is not directly pointed at DUers. So the "DU never does this" line is misplaced, because I never said DU did.

Here is the link to one pro-Putin post: http://my.firedoglake.com/seaton/2013/12/22/2013-vladimir-putins-year/

And another describing the phenomenon on the Right: http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/02/11/the_conservative_man_crush_on_putin.html

There is a world outside of DU, ya know.

[aristocles]

1. If you're against U.S. military adventurism does that make you a Putin-arse-kisser?

Please don't invoke Godwin's law when you reply.

[AnalystInParadise]

6. This ^

Also having Fascists, living breathing fascists in the new Ukrainian government makes them not exactly the good guys. No desire to support or defend Putin, but cmon the Ukrainians are not exactly cuddly in this mess.........

[sabrina 1]

12. Well, it's the equivalent of Bushbots claiming that Lieberals were 'Saddam Lovers' who were Blame

America First unpatriotic traitors' when we opposed the War in Iraq. Same old same old nonsense which generally means all Democrats are 'commie traitors'. Get used to it, we'll see plenty of it until the President chooses not to start WW111 then we will be accused of something else, Democrats I mean.

[jsr]

26. Deja vu, ain't it?

[Scootaloo]

27. Just like you were a terrorist-love for opposing the Iraq invasion

And how those of us who opposed launching missiles at Syria were apparently anti-Obama islamists who lived killing little brown kids.

[L0oniX]

56. Notice ...the op doesn't have the guts to respond. Hit and run.

[Union Scribe]

2. Sloppy writing. Sloppy thinking. nt

[Autumn]

3. I am against any military involvement. I don't care if it's Putin or Prince Harry doing this.

The good ole US gives plenty of aid and comfort to such monsters so fuck that line of bullshit .

[riqster]

84. I'm against a military solution, too. Vehemently.

Calling Putin a motherfucker does not equal wanting a "military solution".

[Luminous Animal]

4. Thanks for pointing out an imaginary problem.

[TroglodyteScholar]

88. Winner

Only a...well, certain kind of person...could believe that anyone here is a "Putinista." Garbage.

[TransitJohn]

5. This is a fucking disgusting, bullshit blog entry you've linked to

Link me one post with sycophantic behavior towards Putin here? Get out of here with this wedge-driving shit.

[cali]

11. typical pile of stinking pig shit from the vile blogger known as Mr. B&C

[L0oniX]

24. Uhm that would be "riqster".

[sabrina 1]

14. They won't, I've been asking. I've even had one of them dig up one of my old OWS threads to try

to 'demonstrate' how pro-commie we Liberals are. Naturally I have invited everyone to click that link and decide for themselves. It is disgusting to see this here.

[dixiegrrrrl]

48. Commies? The Commie label is being resurrected? We can be Commies now?????

Oh goodie whoppers.

Lemme go find my red shirt......

[sabrina 1]

51. Yes, still stuck way back in history, one of them even claimed we were supporters of the

the commie invasion of Hungary. That would have been hard for those not born yet, but logic is never a feature of anti-Liberal talking points, and there is no point to being anti-Liberal if you don't raise the old McCarthy 'commie' thing. Get that red shirt out so they don't waste all those good old talking points for nothing! Lol!

[JHB]

15. Not just linked, he's the author

About riqster
I am a Radical Centrist and election integrity activist of long standing. I am the author of the \\\"BluntandCranky\\\" blog at Wordpress: http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/. I also write songs under the nom de plume Rumbleman: http://www.rumbleman.com/Music_Page.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=169827

[rdharma]

44. Thanks for pointing that out.

This thread is a "strawman" meant to cause discord.

[L0oniX]

50. "Radical Centrist" LMFAO

[rdharma]

53. Radical Centrist = Libertarian? nt

[L0oniX]

55. Libertarian = A Ron Paul ass kisser? nt

[JHB]

58. I have no idea what he means by that, and he doesn't say on his "about" page...

...which makes it meaningless. He doesn't seem to like Libertarians, though.

Scrolling back through the titles of other recent posts there, most of them don't come off as wild-hair-up-'iz-'arse material (again, that's without reading the full posts).

However, for anything related to Putin he launches into full fangs-and-foam mode.

[L0oniX]

61. IMO there's nothing "radical" about being a centrist unless you are in a crowd of repukes.

[JHB]

68. Precisely. I understand fishing around for a term (hell, see my sig), but...

...but if you don't bother to explain what you mean by it, then all people have to go on are the conventional meanings, and by conventional definitions the most polite term for "radical centrist" is "non sequitur".

[riqster]

89. Here you go:

http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/05/02/but-when-you-talk-about-destruction-dont-you-know-that-you-can-count-me-out-centrism-defended/

Not a complete definition, but enough to be going on with.

[laundry_queen]

73. The first time I saw that

I thought that was the dumbest shit I have ever seen on anything political on the web.

[sibelian]

78. WHUT?

[Autumn]

82. Radical Centrist

Middle of the road.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. So, go and arrest him, hotshot. And, on the way, grab some of our many war criminals too.

[cali]

9. A stinking pile of pig shit from Mr. Asswipe Fuckwad Dingleberry Blogger

I have no use for Putin, but boy do I hate lying manipulative crank heads like that blogging piece of filth that you constantly post admiringly.

Putin isn't the darling of anyone on the left.



Fuck that blogger with rusty farm implements.

[Autumn]

13. I find the hostility you feel to the author of this piece to be extremely

heart warming and up lifting. There are times cali you have such a way with words

[cali]

20. lol. the thing that's so despicable about this guy

constantly trying to gin up hate. he's a war monger.

[L0oniX]

23. You do know that is the ops blog link doncha?

[L0oniX]

33. "heart warming and up lifting" indeed.

[sabrina 1]

16. I was about to offer my opinion of the OP but this comment says everything I wanted to say, only

much more politely so I will simply agree with it.

[JHB]

17. He posts B&C admiringly because it's his own blog

See post 15 above, which is from riqster's own DU profile

[scarletwoman]

31. You are being far too polite.

[OnyxCollie]

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[quinnox]

10. yawn, need at least one Hitler reference to make it interesting

[AnalystInParadise]

18. HITLER :)

n/t

[whatchamacallit]

19. Yes, if we don't reflexively support war with the bad guy d'jour, we are monsters

What kind of idiot writes this shit?

[L0oniX]

22. Uhm ...that link is the ops blog.

[whatchamacallit]

28. Oh...

Question answered.

[L0oniX]

21. OFFS ...FAIL! IBTH

[Comrade Grumpy]

25. A load of vitriolic, baiting crap. Serves no useful purpose. Go away.

[sadoldgirl]

34. Hey Comrade

you have to understand that rigster mistook the address, he actually thought he was blogging on Rush Limburger's site.

[jsr]

29. FAIL. Blatant warmongering bullshit.

[arcane1]

30. I keep seeing all these references to Putin-love on DU, but I have yet to see the actual love.

Are you sure it even exists?

[sabrina 1]

35. Think, if you opposed the War in Iraq, you were a Saddam Lover, remember that?

Same thing, 'Dems are unpatriotic' and 'isolationists' and would hug and sing Kumbaya with Saddam/Putin/The Taliban rather than do the patriotic thing, bomb, bomb, bomb their countries into the dinosaur age.

[arcane1]

40. Ah, I get it. There is no *actual* Putin-love, this OP is simply using that to slander us.

It's deja-vu all over again.

[Rex]

43. If you look closely, 5 or 6 fellow "DUers" spend all day

berating the rest of us and commenting on how much they hate the place now. Strange, but it is easy to see once you know.

[sabrina 1]

46. Well, look at the bright side. It's conservative to reuse old stuff rather than pay for new stuff if

you can. Reusing old Right Wing anti-Liberal talking points shows they actually can be conservationists when they want to be.

[jsr]

36. Yeah, people couldn't wait to shower him with praise every time a Putin portrait was posted on here

[L0oniX]

38. I hear they are even starting up a DU Putin group.

[sabrina 1]

47. What would that be called? Where is it, I can't wait!

[Douglas Carpenter]

71. can we ask Skinner to add some Putin avatars?

[L0oniX]

39. To see it you have to use LSD ...or try some of what McCain is using.

[Champion Jack]

74. Use some of what Mccain is using…?

… Senility and bile?

[L0oniX]

77. Bad beer.

[Number23]

52. It got so bad that EarlG even made one of his graphics of the day about it a few months ago

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People here were spinning the war in Syria that didn't happen as Putin's victory.

Here is the image:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017144684

[freshwest]

32. Thanks, riqster: Blunt & Cranky always good for a different view.

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A rather pissed off one, but it does put some things in balance. If I knew what the KGB did outside of Russia, I'd be able to comment better on those charges.

It seems like such a long time ago, too Cold War era. I don't see any of these people through that lens.

One thing I do know, we are NOT going to WAR with Russia or anyone else! No more nuking!

to Segami:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4582939

[L0oniX]

37. LMFAO

[WorseBeforeBetter]

42. You know how a *certain* DU group is partial to...

?

Yeah, that.

[riqster]

86. Thanks, and agreed: no war over Ukraine!

Not sure how people read THAT into my post. Calling Putin a motherfucker is not even remotely equivalent to urging war.

Obama is doing a great job of NOT using war as a first resort (unlike Shrubya), and working with other nations to apply diplomatic and financial pressure on rogue actors. I support him and his measured approach 100%, the more so since it saves lives for all parties.

[Rex]

41. LOL! Who here kisses Pootie Poot's butt on DU!?

PLEASE, PLEASE; come sign in by checking yourself off by replying to my post!

I WILL WAIT...

[L0oniX]

49. +1 ...and welcome to DU

[djean111]

54. Dorothy called. She wants her straw man - er, scarecrow - back.

[fishwax]

57. lol -- he calls himself "a radical centrist"

[L0oniX]

64. I know ...post #61

[WorseBeforeBetter]

59. Duck and cover, Cold Warrior!

Until recently, could you even find Ukraine on a map? Such lashing out, just because Snowden bested Obama... you don't care about Putin.

Cheers!

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[Democracyinkind]

60. Serial invader of sovereign nations my ass. You're thinking of chimpy.

What's with the fixation on Putin? On the one hand we condemn Russian propaganda, on the other hand we have bought his propagandistic bullshit PR about him being the new tsar hook, line and sinker.

This crisis is more than just the whims of Vlad.

[ScreamingMeemie]

62. Do you have a link to this supposed "arse-kissing?"

I've yet to see it.

Thank you.

[L0oniX]

65. www.putinpayswellforasskissing.com

[Douglas Carpenter]

66. please provide a link to one pro-Putin post here on DU

[djean111]

81. Pro-Putin = Does not hate Snowden.

[Fumesucker]

67. The first paragraph is a pretty good description of Dubya

"He is a despicable mass murderer, warmongering, profiteering, homophobic serial invader of sovereign nations, and by all rights should be doing time in a UN prison. Without possibility of parole.

[riqster]

85. S'truth. Dubya and Putin have a lot in common.

Good point.

[Iggo]

69. Absolutists are cute.

[madinmaryland]

70. OFFS. I don't think anyone here believes that Putin is a "good guy". Whatever you want to call him

he does have 20,000 nuclear warheads that could obliterate the world in 20 minutes. Put in those terms, regardless of what you think of him, you have to at least respect the power that he wields.

[Katashi_itto]

72. As a vet, I say go sign up if you want to go fight the monster.

Otherwise who gives a fuck. I am against any more war unless they directly affect us.

[Warpy]

76. "How long ago did you stop beating your wife?"

This question, phrased this way, makes me wonder about the motives of the OP. I suppose we'll never know since it's a spit and run post.

[sibelian]

79. GOSH! What a radical position!

You know, you're very much your own man, aren't you?! Certainly the type to Make Up His Own Mind and no mistake there, no sirree! No going with the flow for the sake of ease and comfort in the realm of Mr Blunt & Cranky, is there?! Far Centrism! What a revelation! What a uniquely conceived and finely calibrated political position! So NUANCED!

I don't think there could possible be a single piece of propaganda spouted by ANY side of the political spectrum that would get past your exquisitely refined bullshit detectors! I'd say you must be one of the most renowned politically unblinkered non-sheep around, dare I say it a beacon of hope and reason among politically unblinkered non-sheep all over the Internet, and I put those phrases in bold for a reason, yes sir! Battling tenaciously against extremism in all its forms! Thank goodness your recognition of the Pooty Poot love has thwarted the delerious waves of lovely Putin-lovin' extremism threatening to overtake DU ENTIRELY over the past few days! I thought we were about to elect him president of the US!

In fact, so spectacular has your thwarting been of the I Love Putin movement that I think this site owes you a big vote of the thanks!

Here, have some exclamation marks! YOU'VE EARNED THEM!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Agschmid]

80. Don't think I've see one yet...?

[TheKentuckian]

83. Radical Centrist = hard core corporatist, anti left, pro imperialism, anti democracy

pro Chamber of Commerce, anti labor, free trader, commons plundering windbag.

[jsr]

87. Aka a 1% progressive.