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BrentWil

(2,384 posts)
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 01:00 AM Mar 2014

Putin's War in Crimea will Soon Spread to Eastern Ukraine And nobody can stop it

Gets it right. In the end, Russia will expand and nobody will stop them or can stop them.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/116810/putin-declares-war-ukraine-and-us-or-nato-wont-do-much

Neither America nor NATO can stop this. They've shown they won't in Georgia, because nobody wants to start a war with nuclear-armed Russia, and rightly so. So while Washington and Brussels huff and puff about lines and sovereignty and diplomacy, Russia will do what it needs to do and there's not a thing we can do about it.

Russia's next target is eastern Ukraine. Because pessimism conquers all, don't bet that Putin is going to stop once he wrests Crimea from Kiev's orbit. Eastern, Russian-speaking Ukraine—and all its heavy industry—is looking pretty good right now. And if you're thinking "Why would Putin take eastern Ukraine?," well, you haven't been reading very carefully.
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Putin's War in Crimea will Soon Spread to Eastern Ukraine And nobody can stop it (Original Post) BrentWil Mar 2014 OP
What would you suggest be done? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #1
I am just pointing out the reality in this thread... BrentWil Mar 2014 #2
Nuke 'em Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #7
"A fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with this stuff." amandabeech Mar 2014 #10
"Because pessimism conquers all" is not really a good analysis. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #3
That would be the conclusion.... BrentWil Mar 2014 #5
We could but that is not the question. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #4
I don't think Georgia is the best example Renew Deal Mar 2014 #6
Umm, there was no 'war' in the Crimea. They welcomed the Russians, no shots were fired. reformist2 Mar 2014 #8
exactly. newthinking Mar 2014 #12
With flowers? Recursion Mar 2014 #13
Historically there is a word for that. Anschluss. Doesn't make it not a war or invasion. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #17
You make it sound so ominous!!!1! reformist2 Mar 2014 #18
I guess that depends on whether you buy a strongman's arguments for invasion or not. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #19
I think the Crimea should have gone back to Russia back in 1991. reformist2 Mar 2014 #20
Nope, the New Republic will just have to groove on the war propaganda Warpy Mar 2014 #9
I'll wait for the first death from invasion before screaming "The end is fucking nigh" Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #11
This may be viewed as another step melm00se Mar 2014 #14
And unlike Ukraine, ethnic Russians are NOT a majority there. NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #15
You are right.. sendero Mar 2014 #16
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
10. "A fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with this stuff."
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 02:27 AM
Mar 2014

Me loves Maj. King Kong.

Let's hope that nobody does anything stupid in Ukraine or elsewhere to get those B-52s loaded with nukes.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. With flowers?
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:15 AM
Mar 2014

You've got military personnel barricaded in their bases and describing themselves as "hostages".

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
20. I think the Crimea should have gone back to Russia back in 1991.
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 08:35 AM
Mar 2014

It was never part of anyone's concept of a Ukrainian nation.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
9. Nope, the New Republic will just have to groove on the war propaganda
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 02:15 AM
Mar 2014

Poor babies, they so want a war over there. War is fun if nobody expects you to get off your ass and go fight it.

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
11. I'll wait for the first death from invasion before screaming "The end is fucking nigh"
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 04:32 AM
Mar 2014

For an invasion, it was remarkabely unbloody. I hope it stays this way. These games are not worth the life of even one citizen, Ukraine, Russia, Crimea or whatever.

melm00se

(4,992 posts)
14. This may be viewed as another step
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:35 AM
Mar 2014

to recreate the Russian/Soviet Empire.

In the last 100+ years the Russians/Soviets have gained, lost, regained and re-lost their empire.

This chapped their ass (off and on) during the 20th century.

Putin, being the ultra-nationalist he is, wants to regain this "glory". First in Georgia, now in the Ukraine.

There will be more to come. Not overnight, but during the next 10 years expect to see more moves like this as long as Putin and his ilk are in power.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
16. You are right..
Mon Mar 3, 2014, 07:53 AM
Mar 2014

.. "nobody can stop it" so as long as we all agree on that perhaps we can get on with OUR business.

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