Ukraine: One ‘Regime Change’ Too Many?

[adavid]

"Exclusive: Russia’s parliament has approved President Putin’s request for the use of force inside neighboring Ukraine, as the latest neocon-approved “regime change” spins out of control and threatens to inflict grave damage on international relations, ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern explains."


http://consortiumnews.com/2014/03/01/ukraine-one-regime-change-too-many/

[Laelth]

1. Excellent article. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[BelgianMadCow]

2. for the truth, no matter how inconvenient. n/t

[truth2power]

3. McGovern is saying the same thing I've been reading on other sites ever since the whole Ukraine

unrest started.

I didn't see any point in posting links to those articles here because I'd be accused of being in love with Putin, or some crap like that. The US was fomenting unrest in Ukraine just like they did in Libya, Syria, Iran in the 50's and so forth. Why let a good plan go to waste? The people will never catch on.

[adavid]

4. yes

It goes back to the 1980's with Ray-Gun doing it in Latin America.

[geek tragedy]

5. yeah, everything is the US's fault and the US is always the bad guy nt

[starroute]

6. You've got that right

Well ... there are other bad guys in the world. The majority of governments are either corrupt or repressive. But the US is globally perceived as the primary source of the world's problems, and there's a lot of truth to that.

[geek tragedy]

7. "the us is globally perceived as the primary source of the world's problems"

actually, not even close to being true:

http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/55/

http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/1/

it's a myth sold on the anti-american left that the entire world agrees with them, turns out the rest of the world is a little more nuanced than circa 1973 Izvestia.

the need for a villain is a literary theme, not a useful tool for geopolitical analysis

[truth2power]

10. In this case, yes. How about readng the article and getting back to me. n/t

[geek tragedy]

11. it's all speculation and claims, very few verified facts nt

[truth2power]

12. Tell me more.Which is speculation? Thanks. n/t

[geek tragedy]

13. pretty much the whole damned thing. nt

[truth2power]

14. Facile.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

8. this guy makes no sense. he says the US analysts HAD to have known

that an overthrow of Yanakovich would lead to Russia's military and aggressive response. And yet this guy warns the U.S. and E.U. off of engaging with Putin.

Ok, if State Department and CIA analysts KNEW this would be the response, then they have clearly planned a strategy behind that expected action.

So maybe this guy who's been out of the CIA game doesn't know a dam thing about what the administration knows or is planning.

And I love how anti-Obama types assume this was regime change instigated by the U.S. and have offered piles of proof--ahem, I mean....innuendo.

[starroute]

9. And why -- why? -- are Dick Cheney holdovers like Victoria Nuland still around

I found this article from 2006 in my saved files, and it's well worth reading. It suggests that what's happening now is a direct continuation of Cheney's agenda of eight years ago -- combining attempts to reignite the Cold War with destabilization efforts against countries like Venezuela.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/HF10Dj01.html

Jun 10, 2006

The quest for energy control has informed Washington's support for high-risk "color revolutions" in Georgia, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Belarus and Kyrgyzstan in recent months. It lies behind US activity in West Africa, as well as in Sudan, source of 7% of China's oil imports. It lies behind US policy vis-a-vis President Hugo Chavez' Venezuela and President Evo Morales' Bolivia. . . .

Some in Washington are beginning to realize that important figures might have been too clumsy in recent public statements about both China and Russia, two nations whose cooperation in some form is essential to the success of the global US energy project.

Contrary to advice from older China hands, including former secretary of state Henry Kissinger, architect of president Richard Nixon's 1972 opening to China, the White House denied visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao the honor of a full state dinner when he visited in April. . . . A few weeks later, Vice President Dick Cheney slapped Russian President Vladimir Putin with the most open attack on Russia's internal human-rights policy as well as its energy policy in a speech in the Baltic state of Lithuania. There, Cheney declared of Russia, "The government has unfairly and improperly restricted the rights of her people." . . .

It's little wonder that some Washington hawks are getting alarmed. Suddenly, the world of potential "enemies" is no longer restricted to the Islam-centered "war on terror". Leading neo-conservative ideologue Robert Kagan wrote a prominent opinion article recently in the Washington Post. Kagan is privy to pretty high-level thinking in Washington, presumably. His wife, Victoria Nuland, worked as Vice President Richard Cheney's deputy national security adviser until being named US ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.