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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 01:03 AM Mar 2014

Uh Oh, NJ Bar Association grabs Christie by lapels over flag pin!



It seemed like a brilliant marketing ploy when the Republican State Committee rolled it out in February: For a $25 monthly donation to the party, Gov. Chris Christie loyalists could buy the iconic lapel pin their favorite governor wears.

But there's one problem.

The pin — the shape of New Jersey emblazoned with the American flag — was designed and copyrighted by the New Jersey State Bar Association more than 10 years ago.

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Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
4. I think that pin also violates U.S. Flag etiquette.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 01:19 AM
Mar 2014

I hate, hate, hate when I see people wearing clothing that is an obvious design using the U.S. Flag. Even worse are paper plates and napkins that use a flag design.


http://www.usa-flag-site.org/etiquette.shtml

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
8. I think regular flag pins are ok.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 02:26 AM
Mar 2014

Flag patches like those on LEO uniforms are ok. Flying flags on flag poles are ok, as long as they are weather resistant and lit at night. I think raising and lowering a U.S. Flag is the most respectful thing to do. I hate plastic flags waving from the rain rails on cars.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
10. Me too. The flag is a symbol of our country, not anyone's individual patriotism. One of the things
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 02:34 AM
Mar 2014

the Russian troops did that was an "oh no you didn't" was raising the flag of Russia on the Crimea. You just don't friggin' do that. Ever. Evvveerrr. If there is a legitimate referendum or whatever on down the road, they can have a ceremony and change flags, but moving in and switching the flags? Oh, hell noooo.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
11. I have many cousins in Ukraine.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 02:48 AM
Mar 2014

I am in regular contact with only one cousin who is fluent in English. She spent 6 months in the U.S. living with my parents while she was an intern in the U.S. She now is in the international banking department of a large bank in Lviv.

She is in favor of the new elections, as is most of western Ukraine.

I worry about the future of Ukraine and what jt means to European political strategy.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
13. I worry about the Russian response if Ukraine joins the EU.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 02:54 AM
Mar 2014

The economy in Ukraine is for shit no matter what they do. The Russian natural gas is a big part of it.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
14. Oh yes, I'm familiar with the gas situation. I think getting out from under Russia's gas monopoly
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 03:03 AM
Mar 2014

is what will turn things around for them. They can't ever get ahead if they're paying too much for gas, and then using four or five times what they should because the elected leaders won't help them become energy efficient (because of Russia's influence). The first thing they need to do is change the law that says domestic gas can only be sold for one sixth what import gas is sold for. Clearly that wasn't in the best interest of Ukrainians.
Their deficit was about six billion per year, but that would be erased if they stopped the gas subsidies for business and the wealthy, developed their own gas, and had a competitive process for the gas they import. Also, Russia needs to sign the energy compact so Ukraine can start shipping other countries gas through their pipes.

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