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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Bernie Runs at all, he'll run as a dem. Here's Why
It couldn't be clearer that Bernie wants to address the rightward drift in the democratic party and that he sees Hillary as the representation of that. If he runs, it's to force that debate. If Hillary is running and Bernie runs as an independent, she can safely ignore him and then the MSM ignores him. Funny how that works.
I don't think he'll run if Hillary doesn't.
One more thing: Bernie is not Nader. they're very different, and Bernie won't do anything that could enable a repub to gain the WH.
Autumn
(45,072 posts)that is the problem and I hope that is where Bernie is focusing. If Biden runs there's not much difference between him and Hillary.
Gothmog
(145,195 posts)Nader is an idiot who is responsible for Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act
polichick
(37,152 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Tammy Faye Harris and Jeb Bush thank you for your service.
polichick
(37,152 posts)no matter what she says while campaigning.
I'd rather see Bernie and progressives go for broke.
(Plus, millennials aren't going to turn out for another faux revolution.)
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)He's just pulling a "Kucinich". DK had a following here back in 08 but as the primaries got going it was evident that he wasn't going to matter. I suspect that IF Sanders decides to run and IF (big if) he decided to run as a democrat, he'd suffer a "Kucinich" and disappear into oblivion. If he runs as an Indy, he'll only siphon votes away from the eventual Democratic nominee.
cali
(114,904 posts)And he's hardly going to disappear. Vermonters support him. He won't lose his seat in the Senate.
FSogol
(45,484 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)the same are living with a stunningly myopic worldview. The simple reality is Sen. Sanders communicates such meat and potato language that practically everybody who listens to him discovers that they largely agree with him. I'm not predicting that he will win. But he will at the very least have a viable campaign that wins or comes close in a number of primaries - And his campaign will bring progressivism back into the mainstream of American politics for the first time in more than a generation. I can also safely predict that we will see Hillary moving toward the center and adopting a lot of populist language.
Damansarajaya
(625 posts)Sanders knows that a third party can only suck votes from the Democratic candidate, like Nader the spoiler in 2000.
idendoit
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Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)do everything they can to freeze him out and starve his campaign. The Party Bosses already crowned "our" candidate -- one who is pliable and extremely corporate friendly, just the way they like them.