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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:27 AM Mar 2014

If Bernie Runs at all, he'll run as a dem. Here's Why

It couldn't be clearer that Bernie wants to address the rightward drift in the democratic party and that he sees Hillary as the representation of that. If he runs, it's to force that debate. If Hillary is running and Bernie runs as an independent, she can safely ignore him and then the MSM ignores him. Funny how that works.

I don't think he'll run if Hillary doesn't.

One more thing: Bernie is not Nader. they're very different, and Bernie won't do anything that could enable a repub to gain the WH.

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If Bernie Runs at all, he'll run as a dem. Here's Why (Original Post) cali Mar 2014 OP
I hope it's not just aimed at Hillary. I think it's the Democratic Party as a whole Autumn Mar 2014 #1
+1 daleanime Mar 2014 #3
Nader gave Bush the election Gothmog Mar 2014 #2
You can just as easily say Third Way Dems gave Bush the election. polichick Mar 2014 #5
Bingo. I can spell "Lieberman". Scuba Mar 2014 #7
The corrupt Supreme Court, Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #17
Forcing a debate isn't enough. It HRC gets in she'll be a corporate servant... polichick Mar 2014 #4
Bernie is not a seriously electable candidate NightWatcher Mar 2014 #6
Bernie is very different from Dennis. cali Mar 2014 #8
+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #9
Sen. Sanders is NOT Dennis Kucinich. Those who think it's evitable that his campaign will turn out Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #14
I agree. Damansarajaya Mar 2014 #10
Wow, you can read Bernie's mind. idendoit Mar 2014 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #12
I agree and I hope he does. Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #13
knr Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #15
Then watch the Establishment Dem Party Bosses Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #16

Autumn

(45,072 posts)
1. I hope it's not just aimed at Hillary. I think it's the Democratic Party as a whole
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 11:34 AM
Mar 2014

that is the problem and I hope that is where Bernie is focusing. If Biden runs there's not much difference between him and Hillary.

Gothmog

(145,195 posts)
2. Nader gave Bush the election
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:27 PM
Mar 2014

Nader is an idiot who is responsible for Citizens United and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act

polichick

(37,152 posts)
4. Forcing a debate isn't enough. It HRC gets in she'll be a corporate servant...
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:32 PM
Mar 2014

no matter what she says while campaigning.

I'd rather see Bernie and progressives go for broke.

(Plus, millennials aren't going to turn out for another faux revolution.)

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. Bernie is not a seriously electable candidate
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014

He's just pulling a "Kucinich". DK had a following here back in 08 but as the primaries got going it was evident that he wasn't going to matter. I suspect that IF Sanders decides to run and IF (big if) he decided to run as a democrat, he'd suffer a "Kucinich" and disappear into oblivion. If he runs as an Indy, he'll only siphon votes away from the eventual Democratic nominee.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. Bernie is very different from Dennis.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 03:32 PM
Mar 2014

And he's hardly going to disappear. Vermonters support him. He won't lose his seat in the Senate.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
14. Sen. Sanders is NOT Dennis Kucinich. Those who think it's evitable that his campaign will turn out
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

the same are living with a stunningly myopic worldview. The simple reality is Sen. Sanders communicates such meat and potato language that practically everybody who listens to him discovers that they largely agree with him. I'm not predicting that he will win. But he will at the very least have a viable campaign that wins or comes close in a number of primaries - And his campaign will bring progressivism back into the mainstream of American politics for the first time in more than a generation. I can also safely predict that we will see Hillary moving toward the center and adopting a lot of populist language.

 

Damansarajaya

(625 posts)
10. I agree.
Mon Mar 10, 2014, 06:48 PM
Mar 2014

Sanders knows that a third party can only suck votes from the Democratic candidate, like Nader the spoiler in 2000.

Response to cali (Original post)

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
16. Then watch the Establishment Dem Party Bosses
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:12 AM
Mar 2014

do everything they can to freeze him out and starve his campaign. The Party Bosses already crowned "our" candidate -- one who is pliable and extremely corporate friendly, just the way they like them.

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