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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 05:53 PM Mar 2014

As Ratings Plunge NBC Considers Dumping David Gregory From Meet The Press

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/13/ratings-plunge-nbc-considers-dumping-david-gregory-meet-press.html

As Ratings Plunge NBC Considers Dumping David Gregory From Meet The Press
By: Jason Easley
Thursday, March, 13th, 2014, 3:04 pm



NBC’s Meet The Press is cratering under David Gregory, which is why the head of NBC News is meeting with him to discuss “format changes” to the show. If Meet The Press continues to struggle, Gregory will be gone.

Politico reported:

NBC News President Deborah Turness is in Washington, D.C., this week and will meet with “Meet the Press” host David Gregory and executive producer Rob Yarin to discuss changes to the format of the show, network sources said Monday.

The meeting, which will take place on Thursday, is part of Turness’s ongoing effort to improve “Meet the Press,” which has suffered in recent years and came in third place behind ABC’s “This Week” and CBS’s “Face the Nation” last quarter.


Sources said that improvements to “Meet the Press” will be one of Turness’s chief concerns on her two-day visit. The show’s fourth-quarter ratings marked the lowest total viewers “Meet” has had in a fourth quarter since 1991. Its ratings in the coveted 25-to-54 demo were the lowest in the show’s history.


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The tinkering with the format of a struggling show is always the first step before major changes are made. NBC will try to make some changes to guests and/or style of the show, but if ratings don’t pick up, it will be Gregory’s head on the chopping block. David Gregory was always an odd choice to host Meet The Press. He is a bland personality who appears to be more interested in pushing the Beltway Republican agenda than challenging newsmakers.

Under Gregory, Meet The Press is just another dull Sunday show that is overloaded with Republican guests. In December 2013, it was reported that NBC was considering ditching David Gregory, and replacing him with the Morning Joe crew from MSNBC.

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and David Gregory could soon be out as the host of Meet The Press.
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As Ratings Plunge NBC Considers Dumping David Gregory From Meet The Press (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2014 OP
"Meet the Stooge" is in trouble, eh? villager Mar 2014 #1
Yea, they'll replace vankuria Mar 2014 #39
"Meet the Press" originally meant exactly that Zorro Mar 2014 #62
Yes. My mom was a great MTP fan when I was growing up in the fifties and sixties. maddiemom Mar 2014 #74
Yep, I think Spivak was doing it then. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #80
Well, apparently, Republicans don't like that and won't show WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #104
Fuck 'em. cui bono Mar 2014 #109
Well if Republicans don't show and Democrats do LiberalFighter Mar 2014 #139
You'd think! But apparently NBC doesn't WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #150
And when the GOP... AnneD Mar 2014 #168
My dad was one of those journalists on occasion DFW Mar 2014 #122
That is really fascinating about your father Heather MC Mar 2014 #129
Exactly. nt nyquil_man Mar 2014 #136
Can't be done. jmowreader Mar 2014 #166
Professional? Is that a necessity? erronis Mar 2014 #169
I know the two left/progressive people I want jmowreader Mar 2014 #188
worthwhile krkaufman Mar 2014 #191
my thoughts exactly Ghost of Tom Joad Mar 2014 #153
He is not his father.. abakan Mar 2014 #165
Nope, Ted Nugent. Bigger draw. Scuba Mar 2014 #167
couldn't happen to a better fellow NMDemDist2 Mar 2014 #2
Flush already, NBC. nt City Lights Mar 2014 #3
DUMP HIM!!! billhicks76 Mar 2014 #94
Well, I certainly haven't contributed to this plunge in ratings . . . Journeyman Mar 2014 #4
Oooh, same here Warpy Mar 2014 #11
My life has actually been made much better... elzenmahn Mar 2014 #103
Grouch Marx: "I find television very educational. Every time somebody turn on the set . . . Journeyman Mar 2014 #117
+1000 pangaia Mar 2014 #131
I do... AnneD Mar 2014 #171
I love TV. I spent most of my earlier years without it, for the most part, when I lived overseas. MADem Mar 2014 #145
Rachel Maddow should sit in that chair. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #5
You're right. She's got the chops for that job. nt 7962 Mar 2014 #41
Rachel Would Be My Choice! mckara Mar 2014 #55
Her show Rebl Mar 2014 #59
And her ratings aren't that great either, from what I understand nxylas Mar 2014 #133
Given the right wing echo chamber the program is the likely replacement will be kairos12 Mar 2014 #58
Oh no! I don't ever watch and even I don't want that idiot on there. QuestForSense Mar 2014 #91
I'd watch Press the Meat again if that happened. calimary Mar 2014 #79
It's a bit disconcerting, but this may be the 1st time I've ever agreed with you about ANYTHING. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #157
AMEN!!! uponit7771 Mar 2014 #173
Word. KeepItReal Mar 2014 #178
I fear Gregory will be replaced by Todd who is even more of a right wing tool. LonePirate Mar 2014 #6
I agree elfin Mar 2014 #15
Chuck Todd is too weak Gothmog Mar 2014 #17
lol Cha Mar 2014 #44
I had the same thought. madaboutharry Mar 2014 #20
Chuck 'It's not the newsmedia's job to correct the GOPs lies' Todd. blm Mar 2014 #27
That's my Rebl Mar 2014 #56
I don't understand minivan2 Mar 2014 #82
They aren't journalists. They OldHippieChick Mar 2014 #102
Proof please. minivan2 Mar 2014 #177
Do you ever watch either one of them? OldHippieChick Mar 2014 #180
Just read this article on huffington post minivan2 Mar 2014 #183
Chuck Todd Started. . . ProfessorGAC Mar 2014 #128
Very interesting. Didn't know there was a Todd-Atwater connection ... 66 dmhlt Mar 2014 #146
Don't forget the "...it's not our job..." comment.... that still today blows me away uponit7771 Mar 2014 #174
Todd is a moron who thinks he's a journalist mdbl Mar 2014 #193
Todd's a total tool. He looks like the chubby,bullied baby brother of Mephistopheles! MADem Mar 2014 #147
I got an idea edhopper Mar 2014 #7
He's a tough get. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2014 #22
Genius! RoverSuswade Mar 2014 #34
lol Cha Mar 2014 #45
That's a great suggestion! I imagine McCain's already scheduled. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #120
The can't get rid of "Dances with COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #8
Dances with Roves! BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #51
Omg! Definite DUZY!! tex-wyo-dem Mar 2014 #93
Dances with Roves. LMAO. kairos12 Mar 2014 #98
Yes, please. Warpy Mar 2014 #9
Shit's getting real, Dave BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #10
He is a real slob and should be dumped for that reason alone. AlinPA Mar 2014 #12
Here is an original idea...why not go back to real investigative journalism Rex Mar 2014 #13
Amen. 840high Mar 2014 #57
Yeah, gee what a concept, eh? tex-wyo-dem Mar 2014 #96
"You can't handle the truth"... freebrew Mar 2014 #140
Gregory is too weak to fill Russert's shoes Gothmog Mar 2014 #14
Tim Russert was amazing ?????????? Submariner Mar 2014 #66
+1 Marr Mar 2014 #78
Gregory said the same thing. cui bono Mar 2014 #110
+1000 kairos12 Mar 2014 #90
The Bush administration considered Russert and MTP as their mouthpiece. OnyxCollie Mar 2014 #107
Tim Russert - so overrated- the "journalistic" equivalent of Krispy Kreme or New Coke hatrack Mar 2014 #130
lol Love it. ctsnowman Mar 2014 #132
Tim Russert was a pathetic joke of a "journalist". Frank Cannon Mar 2014 #192
Give it to Luke Russert... Please Fumesucker Mar 2014 #16
That would kill it so they could replace it with this Ilsa Mar 2014 #18
I disagree Rebl Mar 2014 #65
Welcome to DU, Rebl! calimary Mar 2014 #185
Yeah, he could repeat his "Nanny nanny boo boo, you're OLD" performance vis a vis Leader Pelosi! MADem Mar 2014 #142
More John McCain pscot Mar 2014 #19
Needs more Lindsay. nt SDjack Mar 2014 #89
The only improvement they can make is to get rid of Gregory!! mfcorey1 Mar 2014 #21
Guess the Right Wing Sycophant format didn't work after all. kysrsoze Mar 2014 #23
John McCain and Graham every Sunday is getting OLD! B Calm Mar 2014 #24
Do either Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #26
What do you mean? That IS church for them, and they attend religiously. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #151
If they dump him, may I get to determine from how high? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #25
Put Rachel Maddow in the chair & watch the ratings go UP SoCalDem Mar 2014 #28
How awesome would that be? Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #108
Its more about the jamzrockz Mar 2014 #29
However may we help? rurallib Mar 2014 #30
Me too... marew Mar 2014 #127
Dump Gregory & Hire Joe? SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #31
Yes hire Joe... butterfly77 Mar 2014 #43
I hope the door hits him in the ass on his way out. Fuddnik Mar 2014 #32
put Maddow in charge of it and it will suddenly become worth watching 0rganism Mar 2014 #33
NBC was considering ditching David Gregory, and replacing him with the Morning Joe, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2014 #35
wasn't Joe Scarborough described as stunningly superficial? irisblue Mar 2014 #81
Good god no! I hate that loud mouth hog all the conversation Joe. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #86
Joe Scarbourough reminds me of a Log Cabin Republican Frat Boy ... and the way he> YOHABLO Mar 2014 #105
I had no idea anyone thought that. He has an X wife and 2 sons. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #155
It won't help, but I'm betting this is what will happen. Chiyo-chichi Mar 2014 #172
Maybe MC Rove Can Take Over Bigredhunk Mar 2014 #36
"Maybe MC Rove Can Take Over" yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2014 #38
No sympathy for dull, David Gregory, but even an interesting, intelligent moderator would fail Dustlawyer Mar 2014 #37
It isn't only Gregory, it's who books mostly repub cry baby Mar 2014 #40
NBC wants ratings to get up out of the basement, do they? Get Cha Mar 2014 #42
You Rebl Mar 2014 #60
Kick Cha Mar 2014 #68
If Rachel gets the show, will McCain and his friend flee? IggleDoer Mar 2014 #46
He Will Always Be Karl Rove's Dance Partner Stainless Mar 2014 #47
Never refer to them as NBC, MSNBC, etc. al_liberal Mar 2014 #48
Comcrapstic! davidpdx Mar 2014 #119
Meet the Press... ReRe Mar 2014 #49
That will Rebl Mar 2014 #67
Well, they could atone for their blatant support of the GWB junta... ReRe Mar 2014 #70
I don't have access to NBC Mnpaul Mar 2014 #50
need a host that can ask tough questions WITH follow up questions. politicman Mar 2014 #52
Man was a Shill for the GOP fascisthunter Mar 2014 #53
Be really great to see Rachel replacing Gregory BUT... DonViejo Mar 2014 #54
Dear NBC: Two words ...Ann Curry OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #61
NBC's brain trust is just now figuring this out? Brother Buzz Mar 2014 #63
Joe and Mika wheniwasincongress Mar 2014 #64
So they might replace a bland Republican with .... Morning Joe karynnj Mar 2014 #69
They'll find another puppet and the show will go on. nt delrem Mar 2014 #71
He'll be free to dance with Rove malaise Mar 2014 #72
Meet the press isn't about ratings... none of talking head shows are... pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #73
NBC's loss would be the viewing public's gain indepat Mar 2014 #75
I think we should go back to the original format--a panel of "the press." MADem Mar 2014 #76
Someone up thread mentioned that as well davidpdx Mar 2014 #118
They used to book the "newsmaker of the week." MADem Mar 2014 #141
The format is dead. ZX86 Mar 2014 #77
Pushing the neo-con agenda is a dead end for any media. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #83
The Sunday morning talk shows are mostly internal DC now underpants Mar 2014 #84
Probably won't get Scarborough or Rachel GreatCaesarsGhost Mar 2014 #85
Please Berlum Mar 2014 #87
Does Gregory acquire the guests? MsPithy Mar 2014 #88
Format changes? EC Mar 2014 #92
scarborough is a former republican congressman....he's worse than leaving gregory there spanone Mar 2014 #159
I can only hope..... Jake2413 Mar 2014 #95
Dumb tool replaced with more dumb tools..that makes sense to the producers..figures. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #97
Lawrence O'Donnell or Steve Kornacki would be good. Tx4obama Mar 2014 #99
he's too biased. send him to the unemployment line Liberal_in_LA Mar 2014 #100
Tee hee and take that other guy on MSNBC Chuckie Toad, and may as well throw in that morning lady, lonestarnot Mar 2014 #101
Hows about someone this time not part of the Military/Industrial/Beltway/Political Media Complex? nt silvershadow Mar 2014 #106
Maybe they need a complete remake. oldandhappy Mar 2014 #111
What Are The 25-54 Ratings For Morning Joe? DallasNE Mar 2014 #112
"lack of quality questions." yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2014 #115
Savannah Guthrie should be the one to sit in that chair... Firebrand Gary Mar 2014 #113
Gregory does suck ass but few would raise the quality of "Meet the Republicans" enough to make it TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #114
My 83 year old mother and I....... mrmpa Mar 2014 #116
"replacing him with the Morning Joe crew from MSNBC." Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #121
The format died with Lawrence Spivak. AngryOldDem Mar 2014 #123
cut to the chase and replace him with a batting tee. NuttyFluffers Mar 2014 #124
PoliticusUsa is there to make us look dumb Enrique Mar 2014 #125
Gregory (R) has been a feckless brown-nosing RepubliSymp Berlum Mar 2014 #126
MTP needs a real journalist The Wizard Mar 2014 #134
Why not bring back a panel, nyquil_man Mar 2014 #135
NBC is run by COMCAST watoos Mar 2014 #137
Please let this happen! Dump him! n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #138
They should give it to Rachel Maddow Renew Deal Mar 2014 #143
No doubt to be replaced by someone even more republican Doctor_J Mar 2014 #144
^^^THIS! Atman Mar 2014 #152
As more and more people discover Al Jazeera randr Mar 2014 #148
Fuck it ...put Jon Stewart reruns on in its place. L0oniX Mar 2014 #149
Wow, prayers do work!! SummerSnow Mar 2014 #154
Christie guyfromla Mar 2014 #156
Happy to say, I haven't watched a single episode since Gregory became the host. n/t Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #158
This message was self-deleted by its author geretogo Mar 2014 #160
I vote for Bill Mahr! Dollface Mar 2014 #161
If he is fired, he has a Job waiting dem in texas Mar 2014 #162
Thomas Roberts might be good. After all, Reince Pubis hates him. Dollface Mar 2014 #163
There is nothing wrong with the format.... abakan Mar 2014 #164
They should just drop the charade and make McCain the host. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #170
Since Tweety's own Sunday show was pulled, I bet BumRushDaShow Mar 2014 #175
Tweety is a wind sock - gets all puffed up with whatever prevailing wind is blowing Doctor_J Mar 2014 #176
Bring back Keith! Glaisne Mar 2014 #179
How awesome would that be?! Dollface Mar 2014 #184
The Bum Doctor Loveless Mar 2014 #181
I got one word for NBC: Rachel n/t librechik Mar 2014 #182
My fear... Joe Bacon Mar 2014 #186
Roves dancing partner. The guy is an embarrassment to real journalism. AAO Mar 2014 #187
ZOMBIE TIM RUSSERT!!! AnnieBW Mar 2014 #189
I used to love Meet the Press and Face the Nation when I was a kid. Haven't watched them in years. DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #190
 

villager

(26,001 posts)
1. "Meet the Stooge" is in trouble, eh?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 05:55 PM
Mar 2014

Wish I thought there were good odds of him being replaced with something other than... another stooge!

Zorro

(15,740 posts)
62. "Meet the Press" originally meant exactly that
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:42 PM
Mar 2014

Four professional journalists would take turns grilling a politician in the hot seat, with the moderator also occasionally throwing in a pointed question.

That's the format they should return to.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
74. Yes. My mom was a great MTP fan when I was growing up in the fifties and sixties.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:09 PM
Mar 2014

By the time I began watching it in later adult life, I didn't realize how much the
format had changed. Sorry, but I always thought Russert was harder on the Democrats, but much smoother at disguising it.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
104. Well, apparently, Republicans don't like that and won't show
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:51 PM
Mar 2014

and if they don't show, you don't have a "Meet the Press." So NBC has to play by their rules.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
109. Fuck 'em.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:40 AM
Mar 2014

The liberals will show up.

Bernie Sanders will show up. I would bet Warren will show up.

If Republicans don't want to be candid and called on their bs they can stay home. Fine with me. The shouldn't be given any air time at all if they're just going to lie.

LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
139. Well if Republicans don't show and Democrats do
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:05 AM
Mar 2014

that means Democrats will get their message out more.

Would love that.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
150. You'd think! But apparently NBC doesn't
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:18 AM
Mar 2014

booking Republicans is the life blood of MTP.

If It's Sunday, It's Still Conservative
Special Report: How the Right Continues to Dominate the Sunday Talk Shows


http://mediamatters.org/research/sundayshowreport/


Sunday Morning Talk Shows Featured Twice As Many Republicans As Dems Last Year

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/01/24/410742/sunday-morning-talk-shows-featured-twice-as-many-republicans-as-dems-last-year/#

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
168. And when the GOP...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:35 PM
Mar 2014

noticed the Dem's were getting air time, trust me, they would get off their padded asses and show up. But you would have to deal with grandstanding but it it were nipped in the bud it would work.

New shows are dieing because they no longer contain news, just meme.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
122. My dad was one of those journalists on occasion
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:17 AM
Mar 2014

They rotated the journalists, trying to choose ones that were from newspapers pertinent to the personality in question. As he reported for a paper on the St. Lawrence Seaway, they would have him on (among others) when they had someone like the Governor of New York or the Prime Minister of Canada. It was NEVER just one guy trying to hog the limelight for himself, and NEVER oriented toward one political party.

Gregory is a boring Republican stooge, and the show has suffered accordingly. A simple case of cause and effect. Republicans want to see exaggerated hate polemics and Democrats want to see engaging exchanges and/or insightful reporting. Anything in between, especially if it's boring, will not attract viewers.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
129. That is really fascinating about your father
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:48 AM
Mar 2014

Will you message me his real name. Maybe some of his MTP segments have found their way to youtube.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
169. Professional? Is that a necessity?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:35 PM
Mar 2014

I'd be in favor of some type of random drawing from the right/left/centrist/progressive blogosphere and other non-MSM outlets. Maybe pick up some gems from the sticks rather than the trained/payed-for lackeys of the establishment(s).

krkaufman

(13,435 posts)
191. worthwhile
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 08:13 PM
Mar 2014

That'd be a whole lot more worthwhile viewing than the current MTP, or any other show on Sunday AMs. Not sure where they'd suddenly find the courage to start grilling politicians, though, given they still crave access over objectivity.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
4. Well, I certainly haven't contributed to this plunge in ratings . . .
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 05:57 PM
Mar 2014

Haven't watched that slop in over 35 years.

And my life's better for it, too.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
11. Oooh, same here
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:02 PM
Mar 2014

About the time their formula was changed to 2 frothing wingnuts for every tepid liberal they obviously grudgingly invited on, I completely lost interest. They'd only been vaguely interesting when there was actual content as politicians talked past each other.

They're useless. I happily sleep in.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
103. My life has actually been made much better...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:47 PM
Mar 2014

...by leaving the tube off, and picking up a good book.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
117. Grouch Marx: "I find television very educational. Every time somebody turn on the set . . .
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:13 AM
Mar 2014
". . . I go into the other room and read a book."

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
171. I do...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:39 PM
Mar 2014

knitting. I am much happier and I find I am frequently even better informed than my friends that do watch.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
145. I love TV. I spent most of my earlier years without it, for the most part, when I lived overseas.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:44 AM
Mar 2014

I had friends with it, but it was only on a few hours a day so it wasn't a big part of life. Now that there are a zillion channels I can usually find something that amuses. It's an indulgence, that's how I regard it.

I watch a little of MTP most (not all) weeks. Sometimes I catch it on MSNBC. It is uneven; they need to go back to the old school format, with a cadre of people from print media, radio and TV--and maybe even an "internet" contributor or two--but it needs to be a GOOD one--asking questions of a single person, in turn. The moderator's job would be only to overcome extreme bias and keep the proceedings moving.

Rebl

(149 posts)
59. Her show
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:36 PM
Mar 2014

is the best one on MSNBC. Actually she's the smartest one on all of NBC. I vote for her, but it won't happen. She's to liberal for the suits.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
133. And her ratings aren't that great either, from what I understand
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:27 AM
Mar 2014

If it's ratings they're after, they will probably give the job to Kim Kardashian.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
79. I'd watch Press the Meat again if that happened.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:25 PM
Mar 2014

david gregory is worthless. I'm glad they're finally realizing it. He's nothing but a wholly-owned subsidiary. Won't miss him if he goes. And I'm sick of seeing the wall-to-wall CONs on there all the time. And john mccain is on there almost weekly. "Weakly" is more like it.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
6. I fear Gregory will be replaced by Todd who is even more of a right wing tool.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 05:58 PM
Mar 2014

If the show wants to improve its ratings, it should ditch its unabashed right wing bias and start booking guests who speak for the progressive majority in America.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
15. I agree
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:05 PM
Mar 2014

I think Todd was in the original list of contenders, but was passed over due to less seniority. Now he has proved his corporate mentality, but may "seem" smarter than Gregory. He does seem more industrious than Gregory, but Rachel would be a dream come true for me.

I might actually watch a Sunday show for a change.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
17. Chuck Todd is too weak
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:05 PM
Mar 2014

Gregory may be an idiot but Gregory looks like a genius next to Chuck Todd

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
20. I had the same thought.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:31 PM
Mar 2014

I can see them giving it to Chuck Todd. Watching that would be truly intolerable. Todd is already insufferable, the arrogance would go off the charts if he is hosting MTP.

blm

(113,052 posts)
27. Chuck 'It's not the newsmedia's job to correct the GOPs lies' Todd.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:18 PM
Mar 2014

Gregory wasn't scoring well enough pushing the propaganda for his master Jack Welch?

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
102. They aren't journalists. They
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:41 PM
Mar 2014

are both corporate stooges. We need someone who will put people's feet to the fire and ask thoughtful, follow-up questions - not just accept their lies and/or spin. Gregory reads from a script and rarely challenges anyone. Todd is a toad and generally spews right-wing spin when he does his so-called analysis.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
180. Do you ever watch either one of them?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:46 PM
Mar 2014

This is mostly opinion based upon observation. You want proof, watch them.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
128. Chuck Todd Started. . .
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:40 AM
Mar 2014

. . .as an Atwater acolyte who was a propagandist actually paid by the RNC. That's absent from his admitted history now (neatly scrubbed) but everyone knew the details back in the CSPAN forum days.
He's never been a journalist, he's never been impartial, and he now pretends to be a reported, not even a columnist, but writes, says and implies a specific slant in everything.
He's also dumb as a fence post.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
146. Very interesting. Didn't know there was a Todd-Atwater connection ...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:46 AM
Mar 2014

But not surprised, given Todd's GOP sycophancy.
You have any Links so I can read up on it?
Be much appreciated.
(Yeah I've Googled multiple combinations of ["Chuck Todd" "Lee Atwater" RNC work biography] - but they're such prominent characters I can't find anything specific)

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
193. Todd is a moron who thinks he's a journalist
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 06:11 AM
Mar 2014

Don't care if they replace Gregory with Todd, I don't watch either of them anymore.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Here is an original idea...why not go back to real investigative journalism
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:03 PM
Mar 2014

and drop the corporate news act? People are HUNGRY and DESPERATE for the truth! A ratings bonanza!

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
140. "You can't handle the truth"...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:09 AM
Mar 2014

I can't stand Gregory, he lets the RWNJs talk over anyone that says anything sensible.
Whenever anyone with sense starts to say something the nutjobs start yelling and and the 'host' lets them.

But you and I know that NBC isn't going to let ANYONE interrupt that process ere the truth may start to come out.

Death to the M$M!!!

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
14. Gregory is too weak to fill Russert's shoes
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:04 PM
Mar 2014

Tim Russert was amazing and NBC has no one who could fill these shoes. The best among the MSNBC and NBC types could be Rachel Maddow.

Submariner

(12,503 posts)
66. Tim Russert was amazing ??????????
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:49 PM
Mar 2014

Tim Russert was sell out asshole and set the trend for right wing Sunday talk shows leading to shit heads like Gregory.

During the recount, Russert actively campaigned for Bush, going so far as to insist that Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Lieberman endorse the counting of illegally cast military ballots that would benefit George W.

There have been reports from those who were present that journalist Tim Russert was wearing a Bush For President lapel pin when he attended the traditional Al Smith Dinner in New York shortly before the election. This should be interpreted as less of an endorsement than a brownnosing. Russert was accompanied by Welch, who was a strong supporter of Bush and completely intolerant of dissent on the matter.

http://makethemaccountable.com/podvin/media/020109_Russert.htm

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
78. +1
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

Russert was a complete hack. Al Franken once said that he asked Russert why he never challenged his guests on blatant lies. Russert responded that his role as host of Meet the Press was not to challenge his guests, but to 'get their position on record', which is another way of saying 'push propaganda'.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
107. The Bush administration considered Russert and MTP as their mouthpiece.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:38 AM
Mar 2014

The transcripts with Cheney and Michael Hadyn are wall-to-wall lies.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
192. Tim Russert was a pathetic joke of a "journalist".
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 09:48 PM
Mar 2014

He was the pioneer and master of pseudotough journalism. This is where you ask your guest an occasional "tough" or controversial question, let them give you a completely ridiculous response, then move right on to the next softball question without even challenging them on the obvious horseshit they've just delivered. Gregory is a master of this, as well. That's what that show is all about.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. Give it to Luke Russert... Please
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:05 PM
Mar 2014

Nothing could be more fitting for that unspeakably pathetic septic tank of a show than to have a genuine bona fide member of the lucky sperm club "moderating" it.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
18. That would kill it so they could replace it with this
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 06:17 PM
Mar 2014

Reality show:

Law & Order- Osteen's Lakewood Church. Live! Watch thievery unfold in real time! Check out the hidden camera footage on the church secretary! See what music teens are really making in the gym!

calimary

(81,238 posts)
185. Welcome to DU, Rebl!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:55 PM
Mar 2014

Glad you're here! Ah, the Lucky Sperm Club. I think little Luke needs to pay a few more dues before somebody hands him a plum like that. Is he even shaving yet? I'm uncomfortable with him. I'd just like to see someone who spent a few more years than he has. He just hasn't put enough time or earned enough stripes to be able to carry a job like he even has now, much less "Meet the Press. MY pick for "Meet the Press" would be Rachel Maddow.

And there's another thing, too. I'm still chafing from the job his late dad did - what a suck-up for bush/cheney and all things GOP he was! Somebody who went around at some fancy Georgetown cocktail party during the 2000 campaign hiding a bush/cheney button inside his jacket - which he'd whip open with an impish grin whenever he spotted someone whose favor he curried. You're supposed to be OBJECTIVE, russert! He might as well have been wearing a neon ten-gallon hat covered with spinning pinwheels and honking trumpets and big signs all over it saying "VOTE GOP!!!!" He'd sit there week after week like some Cheshire Cat and let the cheney/contradicta/rummy contingent blather on and on and on and NEVER challenge, NEVER voice objection, NEVER fact-check. Just let 'em barf away for as long and as many repeat visits as they wanted. I used to respect him, long ago. But then jack welch and other republi-CON political high-rollers got ahold of him and he was owned. He died a wholly-owned subsidiary. Rest his soul, but he sure sold out in his last years. Could no longer be trusted.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
142. Yeah, he could repeat his "Nanny nanny boo boo, you're OLD" performance vis a vis Leader Pelosi!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:38 AM
Mar 2014

That would endear him to the demographic that watches the show...!

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
29. Its more about the
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:27 PM
Mar 2014

guests and topic line up than the host. One can only see enough of John McCain and Lindsey Graham before they decided to change the channels. Also the roundtable guests should be adjusted a bit more. Less mainstream talking head and more grassroot leaders.

Never conduct a science debate with a scientist vs a senator who am sure doesnt have a science related Bachelors. David Gregory is OK in my book.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
30. However may we help?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:28 PM
Mar 2014

I believe I have done my part by not watching.
My Sinday morning is Kornacki and Moyers.

marew

(1,588 posts)
127. Me too...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:31 AM
Mar 2014

We desperately need someone who will go after the facts and who would challenge members of both parties. Of course Maddow would be my dream host. No one would get away with anything. You can tell by what she says she probably does more "homework" than anyone.

0rganism

(23,945 posts)
33. put Maddow in charge of it and it will suddenly become worth watching
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:35 PM
Mar 2014

the ratio of conservatives to liberals would drop slightly, perhaps even equalize, but that's a risk i'm ready to take.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
35. NBC was considering ditching David Gregory, and replacing him with the Morning Joe,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:39 PM
Mar 2014

it won't help replacing a turd with another turd!

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
86. Good god no! I hate that loud mouth hog all the conversation Joe.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:57 PM
Mar 2014

The only good thing would be that they got rid of him on Morning Joe. He has to learn his job isn't giving a monolog on right wing talking points. Can't stand him if you didn't notice.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
105. Joe Scarbourough reminds me of a Log Cabin Republican Frat Boy ... and the way he>
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:03 AM
Mar 2014

makes everyone on that show kiss his ass. He said recently that he may give running for president in 2016 a good thought. Ugh! < or something to that extent .. my gadar says he's in the closet.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
155. I had no idea anyone thought that. He has an X wife and 2 sons.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

But I guess that doesn't make any difference. We'll see. Time will tell.
But I think he's hetero.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,579 posts)
172. It won't help, but I'm betting this is what will happen.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:44 PM
Mar 2014

When I clicked on this thread, I was thinking "they will surely replace Gregory with someone worse, so who will that be?"

There's the answer.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
37. No sympathy for dull, David Gregory, but even an interesting, intelligent moderator would fail
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:44 PM
Mar 2014

in that job with the fading, RW guests repeatedly appearing. A tweak of the lineup will not help David because his views are on the way out. The only logical thing would be for them to change Host, and either go to a somewhat balanced approach or go Progressive. They have already exhausted Republican, Fox owns those people anyway!

cry baby

(6,682 posts)
40. It isn't only Gregory, it's who books mostly repub
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:50 PM
Mar 2014

politicians and press members, too. It's a one note show anymore.

I haven't watched in a long time because of the inequity of guests on the right v. guests on the left.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
42. NBC wants ratings to get up out of the basement, do they? Get
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:53 PM
Mar 2014

rid of Gregory for real.. and have a balance on the show. It's not brain surgery.. if they want more people then they have to appeal to Dems, too. Not just have a bunch of idiot rabid republicons running the asylum.

mahalo babylonsistah~

al_liberal

(420 posts)
48. Never refer to them as NBC, MSNBC, etc.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:57 PM
Mar 2014

The proper reference to the former GE broadcast networks is Comcast! The very same cable monstrosity that is going to purchase TimeWarner cable.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
49. Meet the Press...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:57 PM
Mar 2014

... is a joke. If their ratings are going down, then Republicans aren't watching it anymore. Go figure that out. But Joe Scarface? That might work for Republicans, but since they don't seem to be watching anymore, it probably won't. I don't watch it anymore, nor any of the Sunday lineup on the different channels. The only way I would watch is if Rachel Maddow was placed there. But I don't think she would consider it if asked, because the 9PM M-F on MSNBC is more suited to her... she can cover more news there. Here's a thought: put Phil Donahue on it! Yeah, I think Phil Donahue would bring me back, and he would give the Republicans hell, if NBC continues with the Republican lineup.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
70. Well, they could atone for their blatant support of the GWB junta...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:55 PM
Mar 2014

... but, Phil Donahue would probably spit in their face if they asked him.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
50. I don't have access to NBC
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 07:59 PM
Mar 2014

It's is the only channel with poor signal in my area and I don't miss any of it. They should fire a few more people while they are at it. They could dump the Today show, it has become a joke.

 

politicman

(710 posts)
52. need a host that can ask tough questions WITH follow up questions.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:11 PM
Mar 2014

Get rid of Gregory, make the guest line up more balanced and MOST importantly have the new host ask tough questions of guests from both sides WITH follow up questions.

Make the guests answer the questions, I have no interest in seeing any guest from any side come on and basically get free air time to campaign.

To repeat, ask tough questions with follow up questions.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
54. Be really great to see Rachel replacing Gregory BUT...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:26 PM
Mar 2014

She's got to get a commitment from NBC, do away with the McCain and Graham Sunday Comedy Hour.

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
61. Dear NBC: Two words ...Ann Curry
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

..oh, and when you fire Gregory, could you please cut Matt Lauer loose as well.

 

pragmatic_dem

(410 posts)
73. Meet the press isn't about ratings... none of talking head shows are...
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:05 PM
Mar 2014

they are about making rich, old white men comfortable with their entitlements. David Gregory and his peers are just corporate supplicants, kissing the asses of the Washington elite. That's what they need to do to keep billion dollar ad revenues coming in. So NBC goes to church every Sunday and bows down at the altar.

Might as well be Pravda or China Central TV.

They could run Hanna Montana reruns and they'd get better ratings.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
76. I think we should go back to the original format--a panel of "the press."
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:18 PM
Mar 2014

A moderator.

A guest.

The guest "meets" the press, and the press takes turns asking questions.


Rather like a civilized, seated press conference.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
118. Someone up thread mentioned that as well
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:43 AM
Mar 2014

That would probably draw a lot of people back to the show. It would also depend upon who they booked too. If it was the John and Lindsey show every week then people wouldn't watch.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
141. They used to book the "newsmaker of the week."
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:37 AM
Mar 2014

Whoever was the Big Cheese in the news, whoever was making waves and creating headlines, that's who would get the nod. It often was NOT a politician--it was someone crabbing about/at politicians!

Those were the days, my friend...! Some good stuff came out the other end of a cathode ray tube!

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
77. The format is dead.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:19 PM
Mar 2014

Who wants to hear the same talking points they hear all week from the usual suspects of the political class and then commented on from the usual suspects of the beltway pundit class that they've heard all week. The only interesting thing that's happened on that show since Gregory took over is when he tried to shame Glen Greenwald and watch Greenwald tear him a new asshole for suggesting journalists should be prosecuted for reporting news.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
84. The Sunday morning talk shows are mostly internal DC now
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:51 PM
Mar 2014

Everyone left them after they were exposed by the Iraq War propaganda debacle

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
85. Probably won't get Scarborough or Rachel
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 09:56 PM
Mar 2014

Scarborough might run for president (LOL)

and the republicans won't (or can't) be seen with Rachel.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
88. Does Gregory acquire the guests?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:04 PM
Mar 2014

My point is, what do we expect Gregory to ask McCain, Lindsey Graham, McConnell, Schumer, Coburn, Rand Paul, etc. There is no way the network would allow probing questions, aggressive questioning of the high and mighty, they might loose access!

Don't get me wrong, I think David Gregory is a fool, (the only thing missing from his dance with Karl Rove was Gregory wearing brightly colored tights and a jester hat with bells on the points) but if he gets canned, it will be because he is the fall guy.

EC

(12,287 posts)
92. Format changes?
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:14 PM
Mar 2014

Put in Lawrence O'Donnell or Rachael that's all they need to do.


The Morning Joe Crew? Isn't that the same as leaving Gregory in there?

spanone

(135,830 posts)
159. scarborough is a former republican congressman....he's worse than leaving gregory there
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:28 PM
Mar 2014

he's also a partisan hack.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
99. Lawrence O'Donnell or Steve Kornacki would be good.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:38 PM
Mar 2014

I rather have Maddow stay were she is so we can watch her five nights a week
 

lonestarnot

(77,097 posts)
101. Tee hee and take that other guy on MSNBC Chuckie Toad, and may as well throw in that morning lady,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 11:01 PM
Mar 2014

can't think of her name.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
111. Maybe they need a complete remake.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:47 AM
Mar 2014

A whole new idea would be good. I do not watch sunday morning because of McCain McCain McCain --- You get the idea.

Off the top of my head, 1) News of the week in review -- recap of what we actually know rather than recycled speculation,
2) Bills actually before the House and Senate and quick review of each one so we can email our reps and senators, 3) Once a month a recap of actual votes, 4) Once a month round table of reporters from respected newspapers (not cable) to discuss a focused topic, 5) now and then something along the lines of a TED talk showing historical context of a current issue.

Add your ideas for a totally new show. This could be fun. Won't happen -- but we can prove to ourselves that there are good ideas out there.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
112. What Are The 25-54 Ratings For Morning Joe?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:30 AM
Mar 2014

That move looks like NBC is only interested in moving the deck chairs on the Titanic. Gregory's primary problem is not blandness, it is his guest list and the lack of quality questions. Gregory is nothing but a boot licker for the GOP and that is why the ratings are the lowest on record with the 25-54 age group. Bringing in Joe Scarboro would make about as much difference as Gregory dying his hair black -- or putting lipstick on a pig.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
115. "lack of quality questions."
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:37 AM
Mar 2014

The questions and answers are written out and distributed the week before the show so the teapublican guests can rehearse for the show!

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
113. Savannah Guthrie should be the one to sit in that chair...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:00 AM
Mar 2014

I once saw her sit in as the host of Meet the Press and she was amazing! Sharp, super fast on her feet and made the pols squirm. She was asking pointed, followed questions and held people accountable.

Here's the deal, I will not watch any show that manipulated viewers. David Gregory does that, MTP feels like a show where we get to watch democrats eat shit. In fact, every Sunday show is clearly biased towards republicans. This false equivalence of 50/50 coverage for liberal/conservatives is crap, Neil deGrasse Tyson is right. Until media begins to hold people accountable, which means calling out those who deliberately mislead, people will stay away. At least I know I will.

TheKentuckian

(25,026 posts)
114. Gregory does suck ass but few would raise the quality of "Meet the Republicans" enough to make it
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:30 AM
Mar 2014

worth watching.

At this point, I'm thinking a really lit up Zaphod Beeblebrox with Zombie Hunter S Thompson as his sidekick. I watched regularly for decades but now it is unpleasant and annoying like COPS or Springer.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
116. My 83 year old mother and I.......
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:12 AM
Mar 2014

think that David Gregory looks like Howdy Doody, and his intelligence is just as wooden as Howdy's was. Well Maybe Howdy was a bit more intelligent.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
123. The format died with Lawrence Spivak.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:41 AM
Mar 2014

Unless they go back to what it once was -- a panel of journalists with a moderator interviewing that week's newsmaker -- MTP will continue to be a huge waste of time.

NuttyFluffers

(6,811 posts)
124. cut to the chase and replace him with a batting tee.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:41 AM
Mar 2014

why softball it when you can just leave it prone.

might even be therapeutic for mccain's blood pressure.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
125. PoliticusUsa is there to make us look dumb
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:08 AM
Mar 2014

Politico sucks, but it's about a billion times better than the godawful PoliticusUsa.

The Politico article mentions something relevant which PU leaves out

By DYLAN BYERS | 2/21/13 4:05 PM EST
David Gregory has renewed his contract as host of NBC's "Meet the Press," The Associated Press reports. NBC News described the deal as "a long-term commitment" but declined to provide further details.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
137. NBC is run by COMCAST
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:31 AM
Mar 2014

why do y'all think anything is going to change? Martin Brashear needs a job, too bad COMCAST runs the show. Republicans won't show up if someone like Rachel Maddow got the job, the rest of the corporate controlled M$M would crucify NBC. There are no major networks run by liberals. The biggest lie out there is that the media is liberal.

Any moderator, worth his salt, would have a field day exposing all of the Republican talking points (lies). We can't start changing the narrative, can we? Even msnbc follows the right wing narrative, they just put a liberal slant to it. Rachel and Chris Hayes better be careful, they have been straying from the narrative, just ask Olbermann, Uygur, Ratigan, Brashear, even back to Donahue.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
143. They should give it to Rachel Maddow
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:40 AM
Mar 2014

She's the only one currently working for NBC with the intelectual integrity and curiosity to do that show right.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
144. No doubt to be replaced by someone even more republican
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:42 AM
Mar 2014

these things sound good on the surface, but usually end up making things worse.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
152. ^^^THIS!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:22 AM
Mar 2014

No kidding. The people thinking Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O'Donnell would be good replacements are totally delusional about why this show exists anymore. It is a platform for Comcast's corporate sponsors, nothing more. Gregory sucks, but they'll make a lot of advertising hype by replacing him, ratings will go up (temporarily), ad rates will go up, and nothing will actually change. In a couple of years we'll be right back to the same place.

randr

(12,412 posts)
148. As more and more people discover Al Jazeera
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:50 AM
Mar 2014

I hope all the networks that have followed faux down the rabbit hole of irrelevancy will find themselves obsolete.

guyfromla

(49 posts)
156. Christie
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:12 PM
Mar 2014

If Morning Joe crew comes in, you will see Christie every f..g day. They are as idiotic as it gets. Get John Stewart.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
162. If he is fired, he has a Job waiting
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:04 PM
Mar 2014

Over at Fox News! Glad when he is gone, I get tired of watching him try to play got-ya all the time. When they fire him, hope they fire C. Todd too, because he is so damn boring.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
164. There is nothing wrong with the format....
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:10 PM
Mar 2014

David Gregory and his right leaning guest are the problem. Just firing Gregory would go a long way to improve the show. If he is replaced I hope it is by someone who is not beholden to the repubs or koch bros. I think someone like Rachel would be perfect, we need someone with a strong sense of history, real curiosity about innumerable subjects and a total lack of mailing it in, which Gregory is the best at.

BumRushDaShow

(128,909 posts)
175. Since Tweety's own Sunday show was pulled, I bet
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:49 PM
Mar 2014

he'll be gunning for it. No guest would ever get a word in edgewise.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
176. Tweety is a wind sock - gets all puffed up with whatever prevailing wind is blowing
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:23 PM
Mar 2014

he'd be a perfect schmoozer for the Sunday AM Repuke fest.

AnnieBW

(10,425 posts)
189. ZOMBIE TIM RUSSERT!!!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:07 AM
Mar 2014

They need to summon Tim Russert from the Great Beyond. Not that he was all that good, but even a reanimated corpse would be better than David Gregory.

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