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William769

(55,146 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:23 PM Mar 2014

Sam Adams pulls sponsorship of Boston St. Patrick’s parade for excluding gays



BOSTON — The maker of Sam Adams beer announced Friday that it is withdrawing its sponsorship of Boston’s St. Patrick’s Day parade because organizers exclude gay groups.

Boston Beer Co.’s decision came a day after a bar in Boston’s South End said it would no longer serve Sam Adams beer because of the brewer’s affiliation with the parade, which is scheduled for Sunday.

Mayor Martin Walsh and U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch have been trying to broker a deal that would have allowed a gay group to march, but those negotiations broke down.

“We were hopeful that both sides of this issue would be able to come to an agreement that would allow everyone, regardless of orientation, to participate in the parade. But given the current status of the negotiations, we realize this may not be possible,” Boston Beer Co. said in its statement. “We share these sentiments with Mayor Walsh, Congressman Lynch and others and therefore we will not participate in this year’s parade.”

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2014/03/sam-adams-pulls-sponsorship-of-boston-st-patricks-parade-for-excluding-gays/
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Sam Adams pulls sponsorship of Boston St. Patrick’s parade for excluding gays (Original Post) William769 Mar 2014 OP
It's so great to see so much public support for LGBT these days. cui bono Mar 2014 #1
Agreed. William769 Mar 2014 #2
guess I'll start drinking Sam Adams! LibGranny Mar 2014 #3
Awesome! Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #4
corret me if i'm wrong but i thought there was a "don't ask don't tell" policy in place? alp227 Mar 2014 #5
They threw that out the window last I heard. William769 Mar 2014 #6
Rec pintobean Mar 2014 #7
Apt smiley! William769 Mar 2014 #8
Recommend. Zorra Mar 2014 #9
word up! frylock Mar 2014 #26
Who are the negotiations between? Lost_Count Mar 2014 #10
Allied War Veterans Council canoeist52 Mar 2014 #28
Holy fuck. This is so damn stupid... SidDithers Mar 2014 #31
Filthy capitalist robber-baron corporatist bastards! Wait ... shit ... never mind. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #11
Good. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #12
Good for Sam Adams. bigwillq Mar 2014 #13
. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14
Perfect! William769 Mar 2014 #15
Well done, Sam Adams! nt City Lights Mar 2014 #16
I thot LGBT folk were in all parades oldandhappy Mar 2014 #17
Here's a suggestion. pnwmom Mar 2014 #18
I can't speak for all only myself but heres why I never thought of that. William769 Mar 2014 #19
And yet, pnwmom Mar 2014 #20
You miss the point completely. William769 Mar 2014 #21
Please wait -- I've never heard of anyone being barred for being gay. That would be terrible. pnwmom Mar 2014 #22
I have not verified, but I was told the parade was open to all groups and only the LGBT were barred seveneyes Mar 2014 #34
I agree, if there are other non-geographical groups with signs, then they should pnwmom Mar 2014 #35
They do and have for years - they even have separate events that all are invited too FreeState Mar 2014 #40
Great! I haven't seen that before, but it has been a while pnwmom Mar 2014 #42
Good for Sam Adams TeamPooka Mar 2014 #23
Really? REALLY? tavernier Mar 2014 #24
ouch frylock Mar 2014 #25
Awesome! I'll show appreciation by having a Sam Adams Boston Lager on St. Paddy's Day! DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #27
Great !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #29
WooHooT! Cha Mar 2014 #30
DU rec...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #32
My Favorite is Sam Adams Boston Ale~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #33
I have no problem with the Irish William769 Mar 2014 #36
I will take a look~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #38
That whole disk set is my favorite! William769 Mar 2014 #39
I'll drink to that! pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #37
I'll second that drink, Lunabelle Mar 2014 #41

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
1. It's so great to see so much public support for LGBT these days.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 03:27 PM
Mar 2014

I hope it feels like the tipping point has been reached to those in the community, it certainly puts a smile on my face to read these stories.

Still a long way to go but things seem to be on a roll!

alp227

(32,021 posts)
5. corret me if i'm wrong but i thought there was a "don't ask don't tell" policy in place?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:19 PM
Mar 2014

where Equality Mass was allowed to march as long as they keep sexual orientation/politics out of it? I listen to Here and Now & other NPR shows on WBUR online and have heard the parade story on the WBUR local news.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
9. Recommend.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:26 PM
Mar 2014

One reason to only drink made in USA craft beers is because almost all of the craft breweries are owned by liberals. Another reason is that US craft beers are the best beers and ales in the world.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
10. Who are the negotiations between?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:27 PM
Mar 2014

If it's the city, who I think it is, under what grounds are they excluding them?

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
28. Allied War Veterans Council
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:27 PM
Mar 2014

"The organizers of the parade, the Allied War Veterans Council, have excluded gays and lesbians since the 1995 landmark Supreme Court ruling Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Group of Boston upheld the group's efforts to keep gays and lesbians from marching."

http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2014/03/catholic_school_pulls_band_fro.html

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. .
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:41 PM
Mar 2014
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/brewdog-launches-not-gays-beer-3115213

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From Russia, without love
Vlad
Warning: may contain traces of sarcasm and protest.”




oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
17. I thot LGBT folk were in all parades
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:58 PM
Mar 2014

these days. What is happening? I live in CA so am out of touch with the last century, smile. Good for Sam Adams.

Crikey. Well, Sam Adams will get a ton of free space on this move. And Boston -- come on, catch up, you are better than this -- to borrow a quote.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
18. Here's a suggestion.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:13 PM
Mar 2014

I wonder if the organizers of the Gay Pride parades have ever thought about having marchers parade with signs noting their ethnic group -- kind of the reverse of people marching as LGBT in the St. Patrick's Day parade.

I think it could be enlightening to emphasize the ethnic/racial diversity among gay people.

William769

(55,146 posts)
19. I can't speak for all only myself but heres why I never thought of that.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:21 PM
Mar 2014

I don't see ethnic/racial, I only see the LGBT as a family. We celebrate diversity in our daily lives.

This is of course is just my opinion.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
20. And yet,
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:26 PM
Mar 2014

couldn't the people celebrating their Irishness say the same thing? "This isn't a parade about orientation, we're all one big Irish family celebrating St. Patrick's Day"?

My gay Irish father marched in lots of St. Patrick's day parades, but it was in the days before there were LGBT signs, so that wasn't an issue for him.

William769

(55,146 posts)
21. You miss the point completely.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:31 PM
Mar 2014

The difference I have never heard of any LGBT parade barring someone for their ethnicity like these bigots have.

I don't know why your passive aggressive stance on this is warranted and frankly I don't care. I'm all for diversity, I'll leave the hate to the other people. This will be my last response on this subject with you.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
22. Please wait -- I've never heard of anyone being barred for being gay. That would be terrible.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:44 PM
Mar 2014

I thought the issue was the signage.

When I was a kid, I remember marchers under signs by county -- "County Mayo" "County Cork," etc. If there are other groups now, like "Veterans," or "Women", etc., then I agree that LGBT should be able to march under their sign, too.

But if the parades are still by county only it seems to me to be comparable to Gay pride parades not separating by ethnic/racial groups.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
34. I have not verified, but I was told the parade was open to all groups and only the LGBT were barred
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:51 PM
Mar 2014

If that is true, then it is certainly wrong not to let them march. I admit to not knowing the full history of the parade.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
35. I agree, if there are other non-geographical groups with signs, then they should
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:59 PM
Mar 2014

be able to march with theirs, too.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
40. They do and have for years - they even have separate events that all are invited too
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:03 PM
Mar 2014

We have one huge pride festival here and several other pride events throughout the year sponsored by other groups (Black Pride, Hispanic Pride etc. they all march as such in the parade too).

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
33. My Favorite is Sam Adams Boston Ale~
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 06:48 PM
Mar 2014

I am glad they pulled their sponsorship. It saddens me that Boston backed out of the negotiations.

You will seldom if ever hear me dis Boston or Massachusetts. However the people that are running this need to remember the bigotry toward the Irish...

Anti-Irish sentiment or Hibernophobia may refer to or include persecution, discrimination, hatred or fear of the Irish as an ethnic or national group, whether directed against Ireland in general or against Irish immigrants and their descendants in the Irish diaspora.

It is traditionally rooted in the medieval period, and is also evidenced in Irish immigration to other countries like the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom. Anti-Irish feeling can include both social and cultural discrimination within the island of Ireland itself, such as sectarianism or ethno-political conflicts in The Troubles of Northern Ireland.

Discrimination and racism towards Irish Travellers, an Irish minority group, is evident in both Ireland and the United Kingdom.Such racism is open and can be compared to that experienced by the Irish diaspora in the 19th century, with the hanging of signs in private establishments in Ireland stating "No Travellers" in the same style as "No Irish Need Apply". The European Parliament Committee of Enquiry on racism and xenophobia found them to be amongst the most discriminated-against ethnic groups in Ireland.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_sentiment

Thank you for the OP William, however much it saddens me.

William769

(55,146 posts)
36. I have no problem with the Irish
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:38 PM
Mar 2014

In fact I praise their heritage & struggles. But I do have a problem with the people in charge of this parade.



P.S. I made a heartfelt article, that I'm sure your going to love.

sheshe2

(83,754 posts)
38. I will take a look~
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:55 PM
Mar 2014

Lol.

I have my headphones on and am listening to Disk1. My favorites!

I know you have no problem with the Irish, it's the people running it. I'm part Irish, actually I am a mutt. Lot's of bloodlines running through me~

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