A DU trusted websites thread to challenge the so called "reality based community" operatives

[bobthedrummer]

Here are a few of mine-add your own
Cryptome
http://cryptome.org

The National Security Archive
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv

The Center for Media and Democracy PR Watch
http://www.prwatch.org

The Federation of American Scientists
http://www.fas.org

Of course I'm highly biased, lol.

Add some of your trusted websites to this thread.

[1000words]

1. Is porn allowed?

[WilliamPitt]

2. . . . . . .

http://www.truth-out.org

http://buzzflash.com

[SidDithers]

8. Sorry, truthout thinks Mercola is credible, but Dr. Paul Offit is suspect...

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/20053-lyme-disease-community-blows-the-whistle-on-corruption-within-the-cdc

IMO, anybody presenting Joseph Mercola's opinion as credible shouldn't be considered a trusted news site.

Sid

[Cali_Democrat]

13. Truth out?

I linked them before and learned my lesson.

[bobthedrummer]

3. .

Bishop Accountability
http://bishopaccountability.org

Consortium News
http://www.consortiumnews.com

Boiling Frogs
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com

Fire Dog Lake
http://www.firedoglake.com

Mind Justice
http://mindjustice.org

[hfojvt]

7. you trust firedoglake?

ruh-oh.

For myself, I tend to "trust" no one.

For example, a fairly recent article in Mother Jones expressed support for the accursed payroll tax cut.

Something you can perhaps infer that I am against, considering what I always call it.

It's not that I will never change my mind, or find out I was wrong about something.

But to "trust" Mother Jones, sounds like I would have to say "MJ says it, I believe it, that settles it."

Instead, I would like to think my opinions are based on facts and reasons. Before I change them, I need better facts and better reasons, and NOT just a statement from a "trusted source".

[bobthedrummer]

5. .

Alter Net
http://www.alternet.org

[Maedhros]

6. First Look Media

The Intercept

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/

Founding Editors: Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras, Jeremy Scahill
Senior Editor: Liliana Segura
Senior Writers: Dan Froomkin, Peter Maass
Reporters: Ryan Devereaux, Ryan Gallagher, Murtaza Hussain, Andrew Jerell Jones
Senior Policy Analyst: Marcy Wheeler
Legal Analyst: Dan Novack
Technology Analyst: Micah Lee

I didn't know Murtaza Hussain was with The Intercept, but he's excellent (and apparently a first-class cricket player).

[SidDithers]

9. TPM, Atrios, CBC, BBC, rationalwiki...

ScienceBasedMedicine, certain diaries at Scienceblogs.

bluntandcranky
Angry Black Lady
DailyBeast
rudepundit

Sid

[DisgustipatedinCA]

10. guardian.co.uk. | bbc.co.uk

As someone else mentioned above, you can't trust any news organization all the time, but I think BBC and The Guardian are more trustworthy than most news organizations.

[JoeyT]

11. Lots of good ones here.

I'm sort of tempted to add "Yahoo Answers" to be snarky, but I'll add Bad Science http://www.badscience.net/ in all seriousness instead.

[functioning_cog]

12. hahaha. this thread is hilarious. I admit. I liked reading some of those polemic sites

when I thought no one was understanding how I felt during the Bush years. But to say most or even some of them are "credible" news sources? BAHAHAHHAHA!!! Only to the extent that some directly lift news from AP, Reuters, or other credible actual news sources.

[quinnox]

14. whitehouse.gov is the only news source I trust

all others are suspect. OK, I'm kidding, but would not be shocked to find that a hardcore fan club has that bookmarked as their main news source. They often seem to disparage most news sources anyway, that I have seen.

Of those mentioned, I also like The Guardian. And for a while, believe it or not, the Washington Post was doing some good articles and reporting during the Snowden/NSA thing, when it exploded into a gigantic ongoing news story. I was going to the Washington post website a lot during this time (along with the Guardian)

Another site I have gone to in the past is counterpunch.org, it's always interesting, and has a "different" view of things usually.

For entertainment, if I'm in the mood to watch news, I like Abby Martin's show on RT, "Breaking the set", and she is easy on the eyes too, I must admit.

[treestar]

23. Why is "trusting" anything OK?

Why should be trust the Guardian any more than whitehouse.gov? If it's bad to believe it because it's on whitehouse.gov, it's just as bad to believe it just because it's in the Guardian. You're merely stating that the Guardian does best at stating your already-conceived notions.

[BainsBane]

15. The National Security Archive is reality based

as are many of those others. I call myself evidence-based. Documentation or evidence is important in establishing any argument. It's not simply a function of believing one story or another. It's examining what the evidence shows. The National Security Archives has thousands of documents released through Freedom of Information Act Requests and is housed at George Washington U.

The question then becomes what do you do with that evidence and does your analysis make sense? You aren't going to be able to put together a convincing case that aliens or the Koch Brothers stole the Malaysian airliner, the moon was bombed, or some similar nonsense, but you will find a great deal of documentation on some other things, like US intervention in Latin American throughout much of the twentieth century. You have to be clear about what you can and can't know from the evidence available, and you have to realize that there aren't answers for everything.

One example comes to mind. Someone posted a thread claiming that the Malaysian airliner was "stolen" by somebody. They then linked to an article in Forbes arguing that it could have landed on a highway. There was zero evidence that the plane had been stolen, and in fact Forbes never suggested it was. The person saw that piece and concocted a story from his own imagination rather than based on evidence or even the speculation in Forbes. The problem was not that the information about how a plane might have landed was bad, but rather than it didn't prove what he claimed.

So I repeat, the issue is not whether the version of events is espoused by the White House or some foreign government, but what one can reasonably know with the evidence at hand.

[bananas]

16. Right Livelihood Award winners: Amy Goodman, Mycle Schneider, Frances Moore Lappe, etc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Livelihood_Award

The Right Livelihood Award, also referred to as the "Alternative Nobel Prize",[1][2][3][4][5] is a prestigious[1] international award to honour those "working on practical and exemplary solutions to the most urgent challenges facing the world today". The prize was established in 1980 by German-Swedish philanthropist Jakob von Uexkull, and is presented annually in early December.[6] An international jury, invited by the five regular Right Livelihood Award board members, decides the awards in such fields as environmental protection, human rights, sustainable development, health, education, and peace.[7] The prize money is shared among the winners, usually numbering four, and is EUR 200,000.[8] Very often one of the four laureates receives an honorary award, which means that the other three share the prize money.[7]

Amy Goodman: http://www.democracynow.org

Mycle Schneider: http://www.worldnuclearreport.org

Frances Moore Lappe: http://www.smallplanet.org

[bananas]

17. Joe Romm, Martin Hellman, IPFM

Joe Romm: http://climateprogress.org

Martin Hellman: http://nuclearrisk.org

IPFM: http://fissilematerials.org

edit to add:
The OP mentioned the Federation of American Scientists,
Martin Hellman is on their Advisory Board (Nuclear Security): http://www.fas.org/about/advisors.html
His bio at FAS: http://www.fas.org/press/experts/hellman.html

[Crunchy Frog]

18. Landover Baptist Church.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

[SidDithers]

21. Awesome...

Sid

[Comrade Grumpy]

24. I have faith in them.

[LuvNewcastle]

19. Here's one I always trust.

http://billmoyers.com/

[bobthedrummer]

20. Thanks to all that are sharing and to those that are so afraid of what other DUers read.

Alex Constantine
http://www.constantinereport.com

Lucy Komisar
http://www.thekomisarscoop.com

[Hell Hath No Fury]

22. A couple --

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Democracy Now!
http://www.democracynow.org

Jeremy Scahill
https://twitter.com/jeremyscahill‎

Just read that Matt Taibi just joined Scahill at First Look Media, so I will have to add them -
https://firstlook.org/