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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:44 PM Mar 2014

This Iconic Actor Is Bolting The GOP

http://politix.topix.com/story/10931-this-iconic-actor-is-bolting-the-gop


This Iconic Actor Is Bolting The GOP
Calls Republican Party 'a mess'

Yesterday by David Mark


Photo by Chris Pizzello/Invision/AP


Acclaimed actor Robert Duvall - one of the few open conservatives in Hollywood - is leaving the Republican Party calling it "a mess".

Duvall, 83, a movie icon for his roles in The Godfather films, Tender Mercies and The Natural, among many others, tells The Daily Beast:

Let me say it this way: my wife's from Argentina, she's been here for a while, and she's very smart. She calls herself a 'tree-hugging Republican,' but she might even vote Democrat next time because the Republican Party is a mess. I'll probably vote Independent next time.

Some of these very conservative Republicans... I don't know, man. I believe in a woman's choice.


That's quite a turnaround for Duvall, who narrated most of the videos for the 2008 Republican National Convention. In September 2008, he appeared on stage at a John McCain-Sarah Palin rally in New Mexico. In 2012, Duvall endorsed Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney. And back in 2001 was personally invited to President George W. Bush's inauguration.

Duvall has been nominated for six Academy Awards, winning for his performance in Tender Mercies, six Golden Globes, winning four, and has multiple nominations and one win each of the BAFTA, Screen Actors Guild Award, and Emmy Award. He received the National Medal of Arts in 2005.
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This Iconic Actor Is Bolting The GOP (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2014 OP
He's not leaving the Republican Party... MrScorpio Mar 2014 #1
Isn't it always that way? hatrack Mar 2014 #22
And don't be fooled. He is still RW to the core....hard right. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #32
I've never heard him speak about politics. penultimate Mar 2014 #47
His father was a career officer Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2014 #55
Exactly... butterfly77 Mar 2014 #77
He will probably become the new 'hero' on DU for speaking out about his GOP party. lumpy Mar 2014 #84
The bat-shit crazy ones have taken over the republican party corkhead Mar 2014 #64
This! yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #103
Even Frank Burns is turning on the republicans! johnp3907 Mar 2014 #2
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. When you put it that way - A-Freakin'-MAZING!!! calimary Mar 2014 #79
I'm glad to hear that- he is one of my favorite actors and it always confounded me how a talented Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #3
Always felt the same way. yardwork Mar 2014 #36
Good job, Robert. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2014 #4
YA YA YAYYYY I knew he couldn't really be a Republican Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #5
I met him at his restaurant in Virginia pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #6
Yes! When I saw the OP subject line, I thought, Robert Duvall. Zorra Mar 2014 #7
Him and Clint Eastwood LiberalLovinLug Mar 2014 #72
Looks like it's not just the millennial's they've alienated. herding cats Mar 2014 #8
Best actor of all time jeffrey_pdx Mar 2014 #9
No one has yet mentioned his fine performance in _Falling Down_. nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #49
Two words. "True Confessions". n/t CincyDem Mar 2014 #56
What took him so long? jimlup Mar 2014 #10
How can someone who earns a living by walking in the shoes of others be gop? Rose Siding Mar 2014 #43
About damn time. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #11
He'll always be a Republican. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12
Says he will vote Independent... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #19
I happen to be unaffiliated, are you calling me a Republican? A Simple Game Mar 2014 #48
I will rephrase, then awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #54
You are hanging out with the wrong crowd. I and many I know are former Democrats A Simple Game Mar 2014 #69
Oh, I don't hang with them... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #86
I have never hotrod0808 Mar 2014 #92
Sorry, I was going off personal experience awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #93
And I'm a Texas Republican who's been voting an almost straight Democratic ticket for the last ..... marble falls Mar 2014 #94
This actor surprised me. He gives the air of intelligence but I guess its just acting ErikJ Mar 2014 #13
If he really said that then he's a fucking dumbass. AAO Mar 2014 #15
An odd one here wheniwasincongress Mar 2014 #24
I never trusted James Woods after what he did to Peter Griffin Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #30
Republican Thinker? Zambero Mar 2014 #71
He reportedly has a genius IQ demwing Mar 2014 #83
I agree nikto Mar 2014 #96
I realize people like this have very busy schedules AAO Mar 2014 #14
Duvall's parents were complete wingnuts.... hadrons Mar 2014 #16
It's not like he's come over to our side groundloop Mar 2014 #17
Welcome home, Gus pokerfan Mar 2014 #18
I've Noticed That When Some Guys Reach A Certain Age Vogon_Glory Mar 2014 #20
My work puts me in contact with the extremely wealthy Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #21
I love the smell of defection in the morning. It smells like functioning_cog Mar 2014 #23
I can forgive an ex-conservative many things Ratty Mar 2014 #25
I agree Skittles Mar 2014 #28
+1000 Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #51
+1 redqueen Mar 2014 #60
-20,000 Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #85
Jesus--that's big news. Why? He's one of the few...with TALENT! MADem Mar 2014 #26
As a huge fan of his acting, his politics have always been baffling Adenoid_Hynkel Mar 2014 #27
his wife is a "tree hugging republican"? Skittles Mar 2014 #29
There Were Tree-Hugging Republicans Vogon_Glory Mar 2014 #34
Remember, Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #35
Indeed he was and he would be Vogon_Glory Mar 2014 #39
Got you one better packman Mar 2014 #50
I think that's the point of him and others feeling distant to the GOP penultimate Mar 2014 #45
RINO = republican in name only Skittles Mar 2014 #74
I don't think it's him who changed or moved on though. It's just the GOP gets more and more nuts penultimate Mar 2014 #75
the GOP has been sickening for a long, long time now Skittles Mar 2014 #76
Hell Sgent Mar 2014 #65
Think Teddy Roosevelt. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #97
Boo Radley ventures off the front porch . . . NBachers Mar 2014 #31
Huh? jollyreaper2112 Mar 2014 #33
Love me some Bobby D!! Inkfreak Mar 2014 #37
Good move, Robert. TRoN33 Mar 2014 #38
This ICONIC actor bolted the Democratic Party and went Rethuglican napkinz Mar 2014 #40
Who the hell is that? Beach Rat Mar 2014 #41
a sample of his work ... napkinz Mar 2014 #42
In "Apocalypse Now," he played a batshit-crazy man africanadian Mar 2014 #44
That movie was full of batshit crazy, which reminds me bvf Mar 2014 #89
??--How do you "vote Independent"? In most elections you have only the tblue37 Mar 2014 #46
That's the "reveal"... BodieTown Mar 2014 #52
I am not happy with Republicans switching parties unless they switch ideologies. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #53
Sounds like he's trending independent Zambero Mar 2014 #58
I want the conservatives to stay in the REpublican Party and kick out the crazies. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #59
I wish that was possible at this time Zambero Mar 2014 #62
Why does it take them so long? Zambero Mar 2014 #57
"I believe in a woman's choice" really, pal, where ya been the last 30 years mountain grammy Mar 2014 #61
" JFK had one of the worst Civil Rights voting records." progressoid Mar 2014 #63
I always love the "things not told in the history books" tactic Iris Mar 2014 #99
I think he was the only Republican actor who actually had talent Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #66
What took him so long? BlueMTexpat Mar 2014 #67
Didn't know he was GOP but sure glad not any more. Now if he can just persuade IrishAyes Mar 2014 #68
Seriously? I should care? Hulk Mar 2014 #70
It's easy to jump ship Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #73
Jeeezus, Bob, you're not quick to catch on, are you? Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #78
I don't understand. He believes in a woman's choice...Republicans NEVER have. So Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #80
He's one of the best character actors in the business Warpy Mar 2014 #81
Some of the best actors A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #82
Love that movie! And I agree with you about actors. yardwork Mar 2014 #106
And of course the best actors draw the best writers A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2014 #109
i've always like him barbtries Mar 2014 #87
I used to have a little respect for him mdbl Mar 2014 #88
Too Little, Too Late charlives Mar 2014 #90
Well O.K. So why was his insight lacking in the first place. n/t UTUSN Mar 2014 #91
I guess I missed this on Fox News.. Vietnameravet Mar 2014 #95
um...he narrated video for their last convention Iris Mar 2014 #98
Above poster says he was raised by a military family - it would have been in the 50s, so that toby jo Mar 2014 #100
Military families don't always vote in lock-step with Republicans. Aristus Mar 2014 #107
Well, if he is only "probably" going to vote Independent... joeybee12 Mar 2014 #101
I'm pretty sure that Boo Radley wouldn't vote Republican. JEFF9K Mar 2014 #102
How do you vote independent when it's just dem vs repug? AAO Mar 2014 #104
I get the impression that... IkeRepublican Mar 2014 #105
The GOP has really lost America then... but he's still an idiot - vkkv Mar 2014 #108

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,574 posts)
55. His father was a career officer
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:49 AM
Mar 2014

in the Navy I think so he comes from that kind of background...........
edited for spelling

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
84. He will probably become the new 'hero' on DU for speaking out about his GOP party.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:12 PM
Mar 2014

This guy probably supported GWB and the rest of the weasely GOP presidents.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
64. The bat-shit crazy ones have taken over the republican party
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:06 PM
Mar 2014

and the less insane ones have taken over the Democratic party.

I wish they would take their own party back so we can have ours.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
79. Well I'll be a monkey's uncle. When you put it that way - A-Freakin'-MAZING!!!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:40 PM
Mar 2014

So it is.

I don't always trust when a republi-CON, especially as dedicated a republi-CON as this "comes over." He may not necessarily have seen the light. However, as an ardently pro-choice Democrat, the first thing I noticed was this quote:

"Some of these very conservative Republicans... I don't know, man. I believe in a woman's choice."

Indeed? If you do, then WHY THE HELL were you republi-CON to begin with? Why did it take you THIS long, sir? Okay, not wanting to look a gift horse in the mouth, I'll take you at your word and celebrate you. But to feel truly convinced, I'd have to see more of his renunciation and see if he sticks with it. You're DAMN STRAIGHT, Mr. Duvall. It IS a WOMAN'S CHOICE. And anyone who truly does believe that has no business being or voting or sympathizing with, or calling himself a member/supporter of, the GOP.

Hmmm. I'm sitting here, and as of just a few minutes ago was listening to dana rohrabacher (knuckle-dragger from Orange County CA) talking about states' rights in terms of marijuana legalization. AMAZING. He's in favor of legalized pot here in California and elsewhere. And gives several quite logical reasons for it. Explaining that "the federal government shouldn't interfere in people's private lives…" Well no freakin' SHIT, dana. No freakin' SHIT. So then why are you CONS so adamant about shoving hard plastic objects up women's vaginas and jackbooting yourselves collectively into every woman's gynecologist's examining rooms??????

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
3. I'm glad to hear that- he is one of my favorite actors and it always confounded me how a talented
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:23 PM
Mar 2014

and intelligent person could possibly support the Republican Party of today.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
6. I met him at his restaurant in Virginia
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:36 PM
Mar 2014

Nice guy, great actor--but don't look to him to suddenly be a Liberal.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
7. Yes! When I saw the OP subject line, I thought, Robert Duvall.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:44 PM
Mar 2014

I could never understand how someone with such enormous creative talent could be a republican/conservative.

All the other conservative artists, musicians, actors, writers, etc. are mediocre at their best. But Robert Duvall is excellent. I'm shocked it has taken him this long to break through the veil of stupidity, but better late than never.



LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
72. Him and Clint Eastwood
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:10 PM
Mar 2014

I guess I wouldn't be surprised at Clint's leanings based on his early pulp Western work, but he has been in, and directed, some very sensitive moving works in his later career.

But yeah, most creative types are liberal. Look at the percentage of editorial cartoonists. Creative people naturally have a more open mind because they need the input to be able to distill it into their work. So they end up being very informed individuals. And when you are more informed, you begin to understand the deception by the elite powerful rightwing and their mouth pieces in the media conglomerates they own. Combine that with a passion to express oneself about the truth they see around them, and they are labeled as "liberals" whether they call themselves that or not.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
10. What took him so long?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:02 PM
Mar 2014

Hard to get excited or praise the man. He should have left decades ago... seeing the light now is better than nothing I guess but good grief I'm not going to praise someone for doing what should have been a total no-brainer decades ago.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
43. How can someone who earns a living by walking in the shoes of others be gop?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:22 AM
Mar 2014

I've never understood how a good actor could be a con.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
19. Says he will vote Independent...
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:49 PM
Mar 2014

Independents are just people who say they are not republican, yet only vote for them

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
48. I happen to be unaffiliated, are you calling me a Republican?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:36 AM
Mar 2014

I have no doubt I am more liberal than you, I'm more liberal than 95% of DU.

He says this without even knowing who will be the candidates, "but she might even vote Democrat next time because the Republican Party is a mess. I'll probably vote Independent next time."

I will bet you 100 internet points that you will admit to voting for the Democratic candidate in 2016 before you even know who is running. As an unaffiliated voter I find that foolish and admitting to not caring that you are an uninformed voter. We should take the time to know the candidates before we vote.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
54. I will rephrase, then
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:48 AM
Mar 2014

99% of the people who tell me they are independents are really republicans who don't want to admit it

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
69. You are hanging out with the wrong crowd. I and many I know are former Democrats
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:11 PM
Mar 2014

who are now too liberal for the Democratic party.

hotrod0808

(323 posts)
92. I have never
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:32 AM
Mar 2014

affiliated myself with a particular party. I am a very progressive, liberal voter. I refuse to register with a party because I've seen what has happened to the wavering of ideals in both parties in my lifetime. Prime example: the four bullshit pro-corporate Democrats that are OK with The Keystone XL, or the six bastard Democrats would not fight to the bitter end for increased minimum wage rates.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
94. And I'm a Texas Republican who's been voting an almost straight Democratic ticket for the last .....
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 09:10 AM
Mar 2014

three election cycles. The Tea Party has torn the GOP to pieces. Rather the GOP has allowed the Teabillies to turn it into the Teapublican Party. We need a Blue Texas/US because the Red is turning shit brown.

wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
24. An odd one here
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:26 AM
Mar 2014

He's always been said to be really smart; he's really close with Jodie Foster (or was) and may even be the sperm donor of her sons... I'm not sure what his deal is. Too bad.... great actor and hilarious in Casino

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
83. He reportedly has a genius IQ
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:40 PM
Mar 2014

And though a registered Dem, identifies as very conservative.

Of course, there's the whole Sean Young thing, so the guy can't be all that bright.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
14. I realize people like this have very busy schedules
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:17 PM
Mar 2014

Too bad they can't find time to deprogram themselves. A little bit of truth (and science) never hurt anyone!

hadrons

(4,170 posts)
16. Duvall's parents were complete wingnuts....
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:19 PM
Mar 2014

Duvall said that they actually thought he was gay because he wanted to go into acting.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
17. It's not like he's come over to our side
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:27 PM
Mar 2014

He stated he'll probably vote Independent (my guess would be libertarian). I suppose that's a half a vote improvement for Democratic candidates.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
20. I've Noticed That When Some Guys Reach A Certain Age
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:50 PM
Mar 2014

I've noticed that when many guys reach a certain age, think for themselves, and still have their mental faculties, they'll say what they d__n well please and not give a rat's rump what other people think of them.

It looks like Robert Duval has reached that point, even if he hasn't yet become a Democratic Party supporter and activist (But there might be hope).

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
21. My work puts me in contact with the extremely wealthy
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 11:48 PM
Mar 2014

And while I have only seen a couple come out identifying themselves as Democrats there are quite a few who now fall silent on any political subject. One individual was one of W's "pioneers" and other than a small donation to McCain hasn't contributed a cent to a Republican in years. It is probably a pure coincidence that he has a PhD in Biology.

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
25. I can forgive an ex-conservative many things
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:40 AM
Mar 2014

But standing on a stage and endorsing that dangerous moron from Alaska isn't one of them. That he couldn't see her for what she was ... that kind of idiocy never goes away.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
85. -20,000
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:25 PM
Mar 2014

When a Republican stops being a Republican, the correct response is, "Welcome the Democratic Party."

The correct response is NOT "I'm still going to hold you accountable for what you used to believe."

"I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent." Luke 15: 7


Mr. Duvall is now on the side of the angels, and I welcome him.

Not to put too fine a point on this, but current Democratic "It Girl" Wendy Davis used to be a Republican -- even donated to George W. Bush's first presidential campaign. Markos Moulitsas and Garbrielle Giffords also used to be Republicans.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. Jesus--that's big news. Why? He's one of the few...with TALENT!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:42 AM
Mar 2014

He should take "Frasier" with him...!

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
27. As a huge fan of his acting, his politics have always been baffling
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:52 AM
Mar 2014

Glad to see he's coming to his senses.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
34. There Were Tree-Hugging Republicans
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:21 AM
Mar 2014

There were tree-hugging Republicans once upon a time. The R's once had a strong environmentalist wing and it also used to have a strong pro-family planning faction. The Religious Right overwhelmed the pro-family planning faction and they were either side-lined or silenced themselves, and the environmentalists were sidelined by the extraction industry people and (so-called) free-market ideologues.

All too many still eat (bleep) and vote R out of thoughts of " party unity" and the occasional table scrap.

I wised up to what the Republican Party had become and at the end of the Cold War cheerfully started voting Democratic.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
35. Remember, Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:15 AM
Mar 2014

And he was almost certainly the greatest tree-hugger of any president.

Of course, he would be drummed out of the GOP nowadays.

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
39. Indeed he was and he would be
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:51 AM
Mar 2014

Indeed TR was a great conservationist and he would be drummed out of today's Republican Party.

As I see it, part of the Democratic Party's problem is that many of today's Republican Party's voters remember the GOP's progressive actions of the past without coming to grips with the fact that their party has changed, and changed for the worse.

TR built dams and created national parks; today's remaining center-right and moderate-conservatives are constantly building walls of denial.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
50. Got you one better
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:01 AM
Mar 2014

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Imagine how he would relate to the Repukes today, or the Repukes to him.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
45. I think that's the point of him and others feeling distant to the GOP
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014

The GOP is so far out there on issues that anyone with sensible beliefs is no longer in line with them. I'm sure there are plenty of republicans who are now saying "good riddance." In fact, I have little doubt that a quick search of any republican forum will have posts calling him a rhino (I think that's the term) or a communist socialist. That out of touch extremist view of things will be the downfall of the republican party. I will say the republicans have a lot of mindless sheep who will follow them wherever they go though....

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
74. RINO = republican in name only
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:24 PM
Mar 2014


well all I have to say to people like him is - WTF took you so long?

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
75. I don't think it's him who changed or moved on though. It's just the GOP gets more and more nuts
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:30 PM
Mar 2014

I never heard him talk about politics much, so I did a search on youtube to see what I could find. I found an interview with on the Howard Stern show, and he came off as being rather socially conservative on issues. He's against gay marriage and stuff like that. I personally find it hard to find any sort of common ground with social conservatives, because their is little logic in many of their opinions. I may be wrong about him though, as I just listened to about 20 minutes of an interview that took place almost a decade ago.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
65. Hell
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:13 PM
Mar 2014

Nixon signed the environmental protection act establishing the EPA, GHWB signed the clean air act. The radical bits are new.

jollyreaper2112

(1,941 posts)
33. Huh?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:15 AM
Mar 2014

I could buy this story from someone in 2002 when the Iraq war talk was heating up. In 2014? Just what the fuck happened now that was your last straw, guy? You mean to say two illegal wars, bowing to Wall Street after the financial crisis, pro-torture and climate denying and illegal spying and an imperial presidency wasn't enough to do it for you? It's like an old woman divorcing her husband because he's a killer and cannibal and used the meat from hitchhikers in his restaurant. He's a monster, you say. You don't even know him anymore. Well, we have video that shows you picking up those hitchhikers and you worked at the restaurant. You must have already known who and what he is. Did he leave the toilet seat up one too many times or something?

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
37. Love me some Bobby D!!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:27 AM
Mar 2014

I watch Open Range all the time. Great movie. I doubt he's really leaving the Republican Party. He prolly just got tired of some of their horseshit at the moment. I bet they put up a candidate he likes, he'll be back in with em.

Don't really care. I like my actors because of their body of work. Not party affiliation.

 

africanadian

(92 posts)
44. In "Apocalypse Now," he played a batshit-crazy man
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:26 AM
Mar 2014

And now, he's leaving a batshit-crazy party. Good for him!

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
89. That movie was full of batshit crazy, which reminds me
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 08:39 PM
Mar 2014

that Dennis Hopper underwent a similar political conversion before his death a few years ago. Don't recall if he ever changed his political affiliation, but he did publicly support Obama in 2008.

This was a guy who years earlier buttonholed Newt Gingrich to shake his hand and tell him what a truly great man he was.

Regrettable that in both cases here their changes of heart came so late in life.

Back to Duvall: I even liked him in Sling Blade, where he had all of about one minute of screen time and no coherent lines.

tblue37

(65,343 posts)
46. ??--How do you "vote Independent"? In most elections you have only the
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:36 AM
Mar 2014

two candidates, and they are almost always R & D. The race where a candidate is labeledceither third-party or Independent is rare. (Sanders, for example, is Independent.)

BodieTown

(147 posts)
52. That's the "reveal"...
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:12 AM
Mar 2014

...it's the coward's way, a dog whistle to his party.

Duvall apparently supposes that his former fans (like me) are as transparently stupid as he is.

Sorry, Bob: You can't even get the "...she might even vote Democrat..." part right, without using your dog whistle.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
53. I am not happy with Republicans switching parties unless they switch ideologies.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:43 AM
Mar 2014

I dont want no damn conservative ideologies corrupting the DEmocratic Party. Tell them to stay and fix the Republican Party.

We dont want a one party system, especially if that one party is going to be conservative.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
58. Sounds like he's trending independent
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:29 PM
Mar 2014

Not content with either major political party. There are a lot like him these days, many of whom are former Republicans but more middle-of-the-road. At least he's let it be known that he's not associating himself with the crazies who've taken over the Republican party, which might give others pause for thought as well. As for the GOP itself, it's not fixable in its current state, short of splintering and self-destructing which could very well be in the offing.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
59. I want the conservatives to stay in the REpublican Party and kick out the crazies.
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:35 PM
Mar 2014

Our Democracy needs a strong two party system.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
62. I wish that was possible at this time
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:53 PM
Mar 2014

The activists, the ones that vote in the primaries, skew straw polls, and affect the outcome of state caucuses, in other words what has come to define the Republican base -- these people are extreme right wing to the core and outnumber "establishment" conservatives many times over. They are dug in, uncompromising, and oblivious to anything outside their own ideological realm. As such, those who are less extreme and fewer in number will have no luck in persuading (let alone getting rid of) the hard core loonies.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
57. Why does it take them so long?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:21 PM
Mar 2014

I'd guess that recent rants of the Teds Cruz & Nugent and those with a similar mindset might tend to make a thinking person ponder if they really want to be in the same party with these idiots. They can hold out for moderation, but it will not be forthcoming. A mess indeed.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
61. "I believe in a woman's choice" really, pal, where ya been the last 30 years
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:37 PM
Mar 2014

while Republicans have tried every which way to limit "woman's choice?" And let me know how that "voting independent" works out for you.
He's a fine actor, I admire his work, but any actor who supports the Republican party is, to me, an enemy of the people.

progressoid

(49,990 posts)
63. " JFK had one of the worst Civil Rights voting records."
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:57 PM
Mar 2014

Here's the whole quote:

Q: Republicans in Hollywood seem to get a lot of flack and be a bit marginalized. Has it ever been tough, for you, to be a Republican in Hollywood?

Let me say it this way: my wife’s from Argentina, she’s been here for a while, and she’s very smart. She calls herself a “tree-hugging Republican,” but she might even vote Democrat next time because the Republican Party is a mess. I’ll probably vote Independent next time. I think it was Jack Kerouac who said something like, “Don’t run down my country. My people are immigrants, so I believe in this country with all its faults. To me, it’s a big country that’s made mistakes.” Some of the bleeding-heart left-wing, extreme left-wing, are actually different from liberals. That movie The Butler? It’s very inaccurate. JFK had one of the worst Civil Rights voting records. And the Rockefeller’s were much more liberal with the blacks. All the atrocities in the South were committed by the Democratic Party, but now, everything’s been turned around in a strange way. Some of these very conservative Republicans… I don’t know, man. I believe in a woman’s choice. I believe in certain things. I hear they booed Rick Perry last night on the Jimmy Kimmel show. But it’s a great country. We’ve done bad things. Slavery was terrible. One-third of all Freedmen in New Orleans fought for the South. I can’t figure that out. Those things aren’t told in the history books. There’ve been lots of contradictions and this and that. But I think the country’s okay, and hopefully it will survive.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/13/robert-duvall-discusses-his-storied-career-a-night-in-old-mexico-and-why-he-s-ditching-the-gop.html

Iris

(15,653 posts)
99. I always love the "things not told in the history books" tactic
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 05:17 AM
Mar 2014

Also equating the Democratic party of today with the party in the South just after the Civil War. Good stuff.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
66. I think he was the only Republican actor who actually had talent
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:15 PM
Mar 2014

Now they are left with the shit list of Victoria Jackson, Tom Selleck, Adam Sandler, Steven Segal, and Chuck Norris.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
67. What took him so long?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:23 PM
Mar 2014

Today's GOP is nothing - NOTHING - like the majority of pre-Reagan era Republicans that I knew in my youth. Today's GOP consists primarily of the crazies that even the mainstream GOP of yore considered "fringe" at best.

Those GOPers I knew in my youth always had different emphases and concerns than I did, which is why we disagreed politically - and likely always will. But we were able to disagree courteously and respectfully, with reasoned - and rational - discourse on both sides. And ALL of us believed in ONE unified country that would move forward, more or less in concert with the will of the majority of the PEOPLE - NOT that of the corporations and NOT that of the One Percent.

They also were not beholden to the religious zealots that rule today's GOP.

IrishAyes

(6,151 posts)
68. Didn't know he was GOP but sure glad not any more. Now if he can just persuade
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:31 PM
Mar 2014

my once-adored James Woods to follow him, I'd be tickled pink. James Woods is a brilliant man but nobody who sticks with the GOP can be considered smart.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
70. Seriously? I should care?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:14 PM
Mar 2014

Clint Eastwood cleaned me of caring one speck what some old, wealthy white guy who lives on a mountain of gold "cares about". It just reinforces my faith in humanity when the other 99 perception can throw off their cover of wealth and STILL stand for what is right and just in our government and policies. The 1 percent, like Duvall & Eastwood mean NADA!

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
80. I don't understand. He believes in a woman's choice...Republicans NEVER have. So
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 03:45 PM
Mar 2014

what exactly did he think Palin was going to do for the nation as VP?

His wife is intelligent and a tree hugger, but he worked for McCain..interesting.

Nice he dumped the Republicans in a public way.

Warpy

(111,257 posts)
81. He's one of the best character actors in the business
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:03 PM
Mar 2014

and I've always loved his work. That he is intelligent enough to notice the GOP has gone stark, staring crazy doesn't surprise me in the least.

8 years of Stupid followed by the teabagger crazies should have awakened everybody sane.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
82. Some of the best actors
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 04:15 PM
Mar 2014

are dumb as 2X4s.

They are masters of intuition & navigating human emotions
with their bodies & faces & voices. It's a special talent
& can deceive others into thinking acting translates into
political or other sorts of intelligence.

P.S. My favorite movie of all-time is Tender Mercies.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
106. Love that movie! And I agree with you about actors.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 10:21 AM
Mar 2014

We tend to want to believe that actors are the characters they play, but it's just an illusion. They put on the characters with the makeup and clothes.

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
109. And of course the best actors draw the best writers
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:54 AM
Mar 2014

& so speak the best lines which add to the illusion
that they are the best people (i.e., like us, tee hee).

barbtries

(28,794 posts)
87. i've always like him
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 06:13 PM
Mar 2014

but i didn't know where he stood politically. will probably never feel the same about him now...it took him to 2014 to realize this??

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
88. I used to have a little respect for him
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 07:39 PM
Mar 2014

until I read this post. Didn't even know he was a repug. Too bad he's contributed so greatly to the decline of our society.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
100. Above poster says he was raised by a military family - it would have been in the 50s, so that
Mon Mar 17, 2014, 03:27 PM
Mar 2014

explains a lot. He's starting to see something amiss, good again.

Best part, now he'll actually listen to our speeches, websites, leaders, and get the focus going. Now he's got some truth coming down the pipe at him.

Good. And a great actor, anything with Bobby D in it is worth your time.

Aristus

(66,352 posts)
107. Military families don't always vote in lock-step with Republicans.
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 10:27 AM
Mar 2014

I was raised in a Southern military family, and my mother is an unreconstructed, old-school Kennedy liberal. She even marched in JFK's Inaugural parade. My dad for most of his life was a left-leaning moderate.

Like a lot of people who should have known better, he did a hard-right turn after September 11th, (long after he retired from the Army, BTW.) Supported the war in Iraq.

After that went down the drain, and my dad woke up, or sobered up, or whatever, he came to his senses and back to his political roots.

He spent most of 2008 supporting Barack Obama's candidacy, and saying of George W. Bush: "I can't wait until we get that fucking idiot out of the White House!"

He cast his last vote ever for Obama that November, and died the next May.

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
104. How do you vote independent when it's just dem vs repug?
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:36 AM
Mar 2014

He just doesn't want to be called a repug, but he'll probably still vote for one.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
105. I get the impression that...
Tue Mar 18, 2014, 11:18 AM
Mar 2014

Hollywood "Republicans" really don't pay much attention to what's going on politically. They spout off all of these Eisenhower/Nixon ideologies, yet always come to the bosom of what ever goofball is running for a current Republican slot, which speaks volumes.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
108. The GOP has really lost America then... but he's still an idiot -
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 11:38 AM
Mar 2014

and always will be judging from his political views of the last 10 years.

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