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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/13/ukraine-uprising-fascist-coup-grassroots-movementOn 20 February, as revolution engulfed the centre of Kiev, Joseph Schilling, a 61-year-old builder from western Ukraine, went to the frontline to join the protests against President Viktor Yanukovych's government. He was standing beneath the neoclassical October Palace once a girls' seminary and later the HQ for Lenin's secret police when a sniper shot him in the head.
The place where Schilling died is now festooned with flowers. There are carnations, tulips and a tub of spring crocuses. Schilling's photo, near his barricade, reveals a man in late middle age wearing a tie, his hair neatly combed. Here too are images of other members of the "Heavenly Hundred" the name given to the 102 protesters who have perished near the Maidan, Kiev's central Independence Square.
The Kremlin describes last month's uprising in next-door Ukraine as an illegitimate fascist coup. It says dark rightwing forces have taken over the government, forcing Moscow to "protect" Ukraine's ethnic Russian minority. The local government in Crimea is preparing for a referendum on Sunday which could lead to Russia annexing the region. Yanukovych, meanwhile, has fled to Russia.
Schilling, however, was an unlikely fascist. A father of two daughters, he and his wife Anna had lived in Italy. They had four grandchildren. Moreover, he was Jewish.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I went to the link and it's a good overview.
Olexiy Haran, a politics professor and a member of the Maidan's organising committee, expressed exasperation at the way the Kremlin's "fascist" trope had taken root in some western minds. "I've had liberal Harvard professors asking me about this. We are talking traditional Russian propaganda," he said.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)parties that exist, such as Svoboda and Right Sector.
yet,
"Ukraine's chief rabbi, Moshe Reuven Azman, told the Guardian there has been no evidence of an antisemitic backlash, either before or after the revolution. The main synagogue in Kiev, a few hundred metres from the Maidan, was untouched, he said. Israeli volunteers had treated some of the wounded. Asked what he thought of Right Sector, he replied: "I haven't read their programme." He went on: "I've been in touch with Jewish communities across Ukraine. Nobody told us of antisemitic statements."
So maybe these Fascists aren't quite what the Kremlin has told us they are. Which is strange, because the Kremlin is full of fascists, you would think they knew what they were taking about.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"We are talking traditional Russian propaganda"
...it. I found a comment some days back that sums it up perfectly.
One day, it is "Gayropa" that is at fault.
The next day it is a Jewish conspiracy.
And then it is Neo-Nazis and fascists.
If the Ukrainian revolt is driven by gay, jewish, Neo-Nazis, then Ukraine sure must be an interesting country.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024618822
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)depending on their audience. for home team homophobes it is teh gay. for naïve western lefties it is the IMF and Nazis.
This was a good article
reformist2
(9,841 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)starroute
(12,977 posts)The author, Luke Harding, is a former Moscow correspondent who was thrown out of Russia after calling it a Mafia state. He's been involved in a major plagiarism scandal and is currently best known for writing highly antagonist books about Wikileaks and Edward Snowden.
It's amazing how many of the people who are leaping up to deny the strong fascist presence in the Ukraine coup have a long track record of anti-Russian propaganda. It also amazes me how easy it is to post something like this here at DU and get a whole series of people praising it with no apparent knowledge of their own to back up their assessments.
There are a lot of unlikely claims being thrown around on both sides of the Ukraine controversy -- but the significant fascist presence in the demonstrations and the accompanying violence seems to be about the least questionable. Trying to wish it away can only lead to undesirable consequences down the road.
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)it was totally the gay Nazis.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)What's then your definition of being anti-Bush? Calling him a war criminal and saying he tortured?