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SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:45 AM Mar 2014

Beware The GOP and Their Allies Are Out In Full Force Against the ACA



50th Time’s the Charm?
A government report released yesterday detailed how the U.S. economy is already benefiting from the law: by driving up personal income and consumer spending. Between Medicaid expanding to cover millions more low-income people, and families who bought private insurance on the exchange and took advantage of the law’s generous tax credits, the ACA contributed a $33.9 billion jump in personal income for January alone.

Think about that for a second — a $33.9 billion jump in personal income in the first month of the law’s full implementation.

The report also found a bigger than expected increase in consumer spending as well — about $45.2 billion total for the month. The Wall Street Journal looked at the report and said that about three-quarters of this surprisingly positive growth came from those benefiting from the ACA.

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BOTTOM LINE: The Affordable Care Act is working, It is providing quality, affordable health coverage to millions of Americans and a boost to our economy. Even some red state Republicans are starting to see the light and understand the benefits of the law. With today’s 50th vote to repeal the law, Congressional Republicans made clear once again that they are quite simply living on another planet.



Desperation...

Lying About Obamacare Not Working Out That Well For Republicans
Republicans, lacking any real policies they can campaign on, have been relying on ads based upon lies about the Affordable Care Act. One ad which has received a lot of attention in the Michigan Senate race centered around a cancer patient who claimed her health insurance was unaffordable under Obamacare. Several fact-checkers found that her new policy through the Affordable Care Act was actually saving her at least $1200 per year. The Koch brothers have been funding a number of similarly dishonest ads through Americans for Prosperity. They may have been wasting their money. A new poll has Democrat Gary Peters with a narrow lead over Republican Terri Lynn Land despite a barrage of dishonest ads from Americans for Prosperity.

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I’m not surprised. Take away the lies, and the right wing has no argument left. The old system was such as disaster, harming both millions of people and causing harm to the economy. The Republicans have no meaningful alternative. Claims made by the right wing are repeatedly being shown to be false, as with the ads from Americans for Prosperity.


oh wait is that 51 votes to repeal now?
The Republican concept of fairness is interesting. They consider increasing the number of uninsured and raising the cost of health insurance fair. They consider taking money out of people’s pockets fair. What Republicans call unfair is the notion that Americans deserve access to healthcare.

The SIMPLE Fairness Act is nothing more than another lamebrain gimmick that is designed to waste taxpayer money while House Republicans pretend that they have the ability to stop the ACA. Republicans understand that support for repealing Obamacare has hit an all time low, so they are trying to disguise their repeal attempts as fairness.


So much time and money wasted by the GOP throwing their tantrums.



As ACA Soars: Darrell Issa Launches a New Bogus Obamacare Investigation


The Real Numbers On 'The Obamacare Effect' Are In-Now Let The Crow Eating Begin
The results are guaranteed to both surprise and depress those who have built their narrative around the effort to destroy the Affordable Care Act.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2014/03/10/the-real-numbers-on-the-obamacare-effect-are-in-now-let-the-crow-eating-begin/


MAJOR VINDICATION FOR OBAMACARE: ACA INCREASING COVERAGE AND REDUCING COST
And a bombshell report just dropped this week showing that the Affordable Care Act is achieving yet another stated purpose: reducing health care costs while increasing coverage. As Gallup finds the rate of uninsured has fallen to its lowest since the financial crisis, data from Goldman Sachs shows that in January, the price of both health care and health insurance fell. While the drop in the health care costs were attributed largely to ACA's legally mandated small cuts to Medicare provider payments, the far more interesting part, to me, was the fact that health insurance prices also dropped - dropped, not increased at a smaller rate, but actually dropped.

Including the expected surge of signups this month as the open enrollment period comes to an end on March 31, Healthcare.gov sign-ups are poised to surprise a lot of people when it's all said and done. While coverage is central to the ACA though, controlling costs is not only one of its essential promises but also critical to the success of the coverage related provisions. That is why the January drop in health insurance rates and health care costs are so important to consider.

The idea that the Affordable Care Act would control health care costs was poo-pooed by both ends of political spectrum. The far Right disingenuously argued that imposing basic requirements that insurance companies cover maternity and mental health care would drive insurance companies to raise prices. The ideological Left, angry at the President for accepting a bill without their venerated public option, posited that without a government insurance option to keep private insurance companies in check, the death-by-spreadsheets industry would have no incentive to control costs themselves.

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The Affordable Care Act has two premises and two purposes: to expand coverage and to rein in cost growth. The law has barely become fully effective, but it seems to already be succeeding in both (and succeeding rather wildly in reining in costs). In short: it is working exactly as it was intended to.


THE OBAMACARE COALITION: WHY THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS A HUGE ASSET FOR DEMOCRATS
As we sprint to the finish to the March 31 open-enrollment period deadline in the health insurance marketplaces set up by the Affordable Care Act, national pundits are increasingly making the case that Obamacare is going to be a political liability for Democrats in November. As evidence, they point to the loss of Alex Sink in a Congressional special election in Florida, pronouncing that it was the ACA that sank Sink's ship.

Actual data, of course, points in the exact opposite direction, suggesting that the traction Sink got in a heavily Republican district in a low-turnout election was in part due to her opposition to Obamacare's repeal. If Obamacare is responsible for the results, then a more accurate reading would be that Obamacare closed an 11-point GOP registration gap to a 2-point voting gap on election day. That's the miracle here, and of course, the corpse of a national media isn't talking about it.

But how long they will be able to keep Obamacare's serious political advantage under wraps is in critical doubt. Last week, a Bloomberg poll showed that nearly two out of three Americans have a clear and convincing message for Washington on the issue of the Affordable Care Act: Keep your hands off my Obamacare. 64% of Americans don't just oppose a repeal of the ACA, they actually broadly support the law - in a poll that is heavily skewed to Republicans in its sampling (29-21 R-D gap, whereas most recent national registration data show a Democratic registration advantage of 4:3).

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And there you have the coalition that elected Barack Obama twice, in two landslides: women, young people, minorities, and the middle and working classes. The Bloomberg poll should worry Republicans, not simply because it indicates that their days of demagoging Obamacare are limited, but because the emerging Obamacare coalition isn't all that different from the already dominant Obama coalition.




ObamaCare Facts: Facts on the Affordable Care Act

ObamaCare Facts 2014 - We Tell you the Facts, Not The Talking Points

http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-facts.php



It looks as though the ACA is getting some good results and has been in the news lately. The more this happens, and it will...the louder the opposition to the ACA will become. Like I said...DESPERATION!
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Beware The GOP and Their Allies Are Out In Full Force Against the ACA (Original Post) SunsetDreams Mar 2014 OP
Indeed...getting mighty tired of false claims regarding the ACA. I think it msanthrope Mar 2014 #1
Why? Because Single Payer, universal Health care is even better yet? RC Mar 2014 #6
I have no idea what this is in reference to. Can you be more specific? Is this msanthrope Mar 2014 #10
The false claims are rampant, SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #7
The outright outrageous lies are SICKENING! Whisp Mar 2014 #9
Let's see the BS anecdotes counter ProSense Mar 2014 #2
The only word you won't here them say on DU is ... REPEAL. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #3
they act all huffy when you ask whether they favor repeal geek tragedy Mar 2014 #5
Yup ... I keep asking that question ... still no takers. JoePhilly Mar 2014 #12
pretty sure many of them are right wing trolls JI7 Mar 2014 #24
and they have their useful (and obnoxious) idiots working on their behalf at DU. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #4
50 times! How much taxpayer money does that equal I would like to know! Rex Mar 2014 #8
Millions, such amount could have been used in restoring UI Iliyah Mar 2014 #16
24 billion from the GOP shutdown! That could have covered A LOT Rex Mar 2014 #33
K & R. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #11
We need a money ticker showing how much they are wasting on this nonsense randr Mar 2014 #13
Excellent idea! SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #20
ACA obstructors hate the idea of freedom. Trust Buster Mar 2014 #14
Freedom for thee but not for us. Iliyah Mar 2014 #17
Agreed.. sendero Mar 2014 #18
Welcome to DU! SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #21
Thank you. Been following DU for a year. Thought it was time to speak my mind. Trust Buster Mar 2014 #35
it was funny when they tried to make the news about people quitting their jobs JI7 Mar 2014 #26
"Good progressive" allies here at DU also hate the ACA: riqster Mar 2014 #15
Lots of supposed lefties willing to help them! JNelson6563 Mar 2014 #19
"supposed" JI7 Mar 2014 #25
Yup Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #27
Oh yes they are indeed. Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #22
here they come ... napkinz Mar 2014 #23
Nice graphics, SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #32
You will be pleased to know Aerows Mar 2014 #28
? SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #29
No Aerows Mar 2014 #30
oh ok, SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #31
Seeing one of the Wife's meds discontinued from Insurance Coverage One_Life_To_Give Mar 2014 #34
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. Indeed...getting mighty tired of false claims regarding the ACA. I think it
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:48 AM
Mar 2014

should be a bannable offense.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
6. Why? Because Single Payer, universal Health care is even better yet?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:07 AM
Mar 2014

We still need to get the useless, parasitic middle men out from between the patient and their doctors. Already they are finding loopholes to deny health care, to better their bottom line. The second verse (ACA) is nothing more than a modification of the first verse. The tune is the still same... Profiting from people's health problems and worse yet, finding new ways to deny coverage.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. I have no idea what this is in reference to. Can you be more specific? Is this
Reply to RC (Reply #6)
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:38 AM
Mar 2014

in reference to a thread here?

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
7. The false claims are rampant,
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:25 AM
Mar 2014

it's amazing. It's become a frenzy with all the good reports and it is an election year.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
9. The outright outrageous lies are SICKENING!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:37 AM
Mar 2014

It's bad enough there are the GOPers and Baggers out there - but to hear that same kind of crazy Here, from members Here?

Atrocious. Vomitus.

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JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
3. The only word you won't here them say on DU is ... REPEAL.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:56 AM
Mar 2014

They'll say "F**k you Mr President" and almost anything else ... but they won't say "REPEAL" because they know THAT would give them away.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. they act all huffy when you ask whether they favor repeal
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 08:58 AM
Mar 2014

"It's worse than slavery, it's a crime against humanity, it hurts me to my soul, but of course I don't favor repeal."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. 50 times! How much taxpayer money does that equal I would like to know!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:34 AM
Mar 2014

Repukes throw away our money faster then we can print it! Then they cut aid to the poor! They make me sick to my stomach.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
33. 24 billion from the GOP shutdown! That could have covered A LOT
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:10 PM
Mar 2014

of stuff! I swear, anyone that votes GOP in 2014 must HATE not only our way of government BUT also our way of life!

randr

(12,412 posts)
13. We need a money ticker showing how much they are wasting on this nonsense
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:46 AM
Mar 2014

And another showing how much we are saving with the ACA

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
14. ACA obstructors hate the idea of freedom.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 09:52 AM
Mar 2014

Republicans, business and even the unions don't like the ACA because the State exchanges offers freedom of choice to the worker. There once was a time when the hope of salting away a pension is what shackled employee to employer. Employers shed pension in lieu of cheaper potable 401k's. Since then, healthcare insurance has shackled employee to employer. The ACA will end that indentured servitude. Even unions, who haven't been able to hang their hats on wage increases the past 20 years, have used access to healthcare insurance as their chief selling point. The ACA represents a loss of power and control. The idea that corporate America can ship our jobs to third world labor markets in the blink of an eye but the worker must remain totally dependent on that same employer for health insurance is blatantly absurd. In a global economy, workers need flexibility and not codified indentured servitude.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
18. Agreed..
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 10:31 AM
Mar 2014

.... If the "free market" mavens really believed in free markets, they would realize that worker mobility is an overall benefit to the economy. In fact they DO praise worker mobility in every other context.

But they studiously avoid acknowledging that benefit of the ACA because they are lying hypocrites whose only interest is in screwing employees.

I think if the ACA can just hang in for a couple more years without any major foulups, it will be impossible for the pukes to repeal it.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
21. Welcome to DU!
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 02:27 PM
Mar 2014

"The idea that corporate America can ship our jobs to third world labor markets in the blink of an eye but the worker must remain totally dependent on that same employer for health insurance is blatantly absurd."

Agreed.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
26. it was funny when they tried to make the news about people quitting their jobs
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 04:44 PM
Mar 2014

after getting obamacare into something negative .

these people are the type of people you describe. those who have wanted to retire, start their own business, move on to another job etc. but they had to stay where they were because they could not risk losing their insurance .

now they have this flexiblity.

SunsetDreams

(8,571 posts)
29. ?
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:01 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry, it may be due to a lack of sleep..but what exactly do you mean by the declaration?

On first glance I was under the impression that you thought that I could not vote here. Maybe I've read your statement wrong.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
34. Seeing one of the Wife's meds discontinued from Insurance Coverage
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 05:28 PM
Mar 2014

Seeing one of the Wife's meds discontinued from Insurance Coverage with the same corporate plan from year to year. I am not surprised that for some people there will be glitches in the system. How much is a glitch verses working as intended by the Insurance Companies is my question. The wife's med was eventually approved but it took additional paperwork from the Rheumatologist before it was authorized. During the time of uncertainty I suppose I could have claimed my prescription out of pocket might go from $3k/yr to $15k/yr.

While the pugs are spreading fear. For alot of people with serious medical issues are full of fear about what the changes mean. And I don't know that we have done a descent job at providing an effective means to ease the navigation of this small group of people who are incredibly dependent upon how and what their insurance covers. Really they almost need a regular full time patient advocate to navigate the ins co hurdles.

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